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Oct 16, 1998, 12:16am

Now where did I get 'Novices' from, old habits helping run a commercial
multi user game for 5 years, anyway..

A slightly changed WISH, non registered people when they register get
certain extras, many AVs, telegrams, buildings that should stay put and
soon file to file transfer.. I WISH that they also got an
enabled X rating as an incentive as this would give world owners the
option of controlling tourists via that means.

Obviously I would prefer a ban list so typing 0, would stop tourists
entering, by ban I dont mean forever, maybe just a few hours. AlphaWorld
and other larger world's dont normally have a problem coping with the
numbers....

Just a wish..

Klassi

Ps while wishing I want colored text :-)) and an on/off switch for bold
black text, without changing PS, PK, ED options back and forth.

Oct 16, 1998, 12:25am

I'm gonna work on a bot that ejects turists form the world :)
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Oct 16, 1998, 2:36am

Well I don't like that idea :-( Stopping them entering at special times is
what I am after, being ejected after entering hmmm not good, can't ask a bot
why. Still I guess many may want something like that.

Klassi



[View Quote] > I'm gonna work on a bot that ejects turists form the world :)
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Oct 16, 1998, 2:43am

You just turn the bot on when you don't want em around :)
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Oct 16, 1998, 9:28am

[View Quote] Make it based on builder # Byte Me. Easy to control and you could keep out
selected people.

BUT (darn), I just thought of a way to overcome the bot (if it like a
traditional bot and sits in one place). Just use the "teleport to..." menu
command to enter the world at a place other than GZ.

Here is a "fun" idea: An *enforcer* bot that follows you around (like a body
guard) and ejects people on its internal "hit list". It could be a special AV
with an AK47.rwx with sound effects and all.

Errr, on second thought maybe the idea sucks. At least it is not random! ha ha
ha


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Oct 16, 1998, 2:37pm

Why not have the bot monitor the server for number and location of the
intruder or potential vandal? I suppose (hope) this could be done
with the sdk.
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Oct 16, 1998, 7:54pm

You could program the bot to say why though: example:

Bot: Sorry <Touristname>, Tourist are not currently allowed in <worldname>
because <this_reason>. Sorry to have to eject you, but please come back
again <when_you_specify>.

Paul

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Oct 16, 1998, 8:17pm

Yes that would work, guess as viable options go, yours so far is the most
practical and fairly easy to implement..

Klassi

[View Quote] > You just turn the bot on when you don't want em around :)
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Oct 16, 1998, 8:33pm

Yes, that seems a nicer way to say, "Go Away"..

Klassi

[View Quote] > You could program the bot to say why though: example:
>
> Bot: Sorry <Touristname>, Tourist are not currently allowed in <worldname>
> because <this_reason>. Sorry to have to eject you, but please come back
> again <when_you_specify>.
>
> Paul
>
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Oct 17, 1998, 5:53pm

That sounds Great !! and a swear feature too if you use bad language (a bad
word list.txt) Poof your teleported out.
~Lightwave

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Oct 17, 1998, 11:15pm

[View Quote] Auto eject on matching a text string in a "bad word list" has way to many
potential problems: #1 Misspelled words get by the list (as do foreign words).
#2 People think of creative ways to get around triggering the bot, as in "he11"
(with two ones). #3 Words used innocently get booted, as in discussing "Super
Bowl XXX" (30), or breast cancer, or just a typo. It seems to me the real
on-line offensive behavior is exactly that, behavior. How people string the
words together and less which words they use.

This stuff has all been tried before in the arena of internet content filtering.
Filtering by URL works great, filtering by keywords is still ultra-buggy. I
suppose you could *count* how many words are used, or even rank words (some get
two or even three counts) as a simple way to try to fix the limitations. But
what is really needed is some sophisticated AI behind the keyword filter...

You can try it, that is what the SDK is for. But don't be surprised if people
start complaining in these newsgroups about what an unfriendly world you have,
"I didn't even see the PS", "I got no warning", "all I said was ____", etc.

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always #5 FOO = ~FOO; // the sound of a beating heart

Oct 18, 1998, 10:25am

But when you try to make a bot that tracks down ppl using bad words, you
don't necessarily have to eject them while still developing the bot. Just
make the bot report to you: "<name> said <sentence>, I think this is a good
reason to kick him out", but don't let the bot do so.

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Oct 18, 1998, 10:37am

[View Quote] LOL Rolu;

Do I understand that if some potty mouth named JerkMe comes into to your world
and says (to a female):
"Hey s***, let's get it on, b*** o***. I wanna f***."
that your bot would say that:
"JerkMe said, 'Hey s***, let's get it on, b*** o***. I wanna f***.', I think
this is a good reason to kick him out."???

Goodness, the potty mouths of VR would have a ball with that one. Heh, heh,
heh.

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Oct 18, 1998, 6:36pm

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LOL :-)

Yes, but only when you want to check if the bot's algorithm works well. When
it does, you can add a line to your code to actually make the bot eject.
When it doesn't, no-one gets kicked out for nothing, and you can go see what
is wrong. :-)

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Oct 19, 1998, 7:46pm

well i said teleport out, i meant to say is to teleport them away from gz
just so they cant stand there and swear at every one because they think its
fun. i just want to make it more difficult for them to do it. i know you
cant stop it.
~Lightwave

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Oct 19, 1998, 10:44pm

at the very least, a bot like that could kick people out for using bad words in
their names. Stuff like that is hard to miss, and with luck the kids wouldn't
even know *why* they were kicked out, only that they were ejected, hehe...

grover

[View Quote] > well i said teleport out, i meant to say is to teleport them away from gz
> just so they cant stand there and swear at every one because they think its
> fun. i just want to make it more difficult for them to do it. i know you
> cant stop it.
> ~Lightwave
>
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Nov 7, 1998, 7:42pm

Not the filter "Swap" list I suggested long ago....
imagine a list of words in a user editalbe text file...

like

shit=poopoo
hell=bad place
ass=rear end
.....

now imagine the browser filtering chat and substituting the user defined
substitutes at runtime... easy to do with the code too!

So now when a jerk starts using any of the listed words... he looks more
pitiful or funny than rude...

I would have a nice custom list if it was there to use.

:)

Nov 7, 1998, 7:43pm

Automated Bot PK is a great idea! I like it!

Nov 7, 1998, 8:34pm

although if someone were to get ahold of a list for a world, conversations
wouldnt be so funny anymore. :)

[View Quote] > Not the filter "Swap" list I suggested long ago....
> imagine a list of words in a user editalbe text file...
>
> like
>
> shit=poopoo
> hell=bad place
> ass=rear end
> ....
>
> now imagine the browser filtering chat and substituting the user defined
> substitutes at runtime... easy to do with the code too!
>
> So now when a jerk starts using any of the listed words... he looks more
> pitiful or funny than rude...
>
> I would have a nice custom list if it was there to use.
>
> :)

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