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New Pope // Communitygnu32Apr 19, 2005, 4:44pm
Yay for Joseph Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI, the newest pope elected 30
minutes ago =D (Don't ask why it is me who posted this, i was bored) builderzApr 20, 2005, 5:48am
If you are so bored, then I'm sure you had the time to read these
articles as well, right? "New pope served in Hitler Youth but was not a Nazi" http://in.news.yahoo.com/050419/137/2kugm.html "Pope choice fulfills ancient prophecy?" http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43887 Being Catholic, I'm both excited and disappointed at the same time. -Builderz [View Quote] strike rapierApr 20, 2005, 1:14pm
IMO this guy is going to have serious problems if he stays so hardline, he
can't really expect that everyone will be as he wants them to be, and if he rants about it, unlike JP2, he has no standing in the younger populus. He's gonna get fried. -- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com [View Quote] gnu32Apr 20, 2005, 1:33pm
Already knew that, but claming that the Pope was a nazi could be
offensive to some (I know he wasn't a nazi, but you can expect many to start pointing and say things) [random]Thing is, why yet again another German pope? Sure John Paul was polish and Benedict was a close ally of John but they could have chosen someone unique, A Black Pope would have made things better as it would get rid of racisim more effectivley than those stupid black and white bands everyone is wearing that is not doing anything to help (Infact, people abuse them and say that they support racisim as they are wearing the bands for the "humor" of it).[/random] [View Quote] builderzApr 20, 2005, 2:26pm
I don't think he will resign, Strike, but he is 78 years old. I believe
there is a good chance that he will pass away within five to ten years. I was expecting a younger pope to be picked, though. -Builderz [View Quote] callidusApr 20, 2005, 2:59pm
Good points and I think a black or Latin pope might have been beneficial to
the world but I thought the whole point of the process [the choosing of a new Pope] is that Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit chooses the new Pope and acts through the Cardinals. I think its important to mention that the Catholic Church is not a political party that is deterred by public opinion, nor is the election of a Pope like a Presidential election where they hold public debates and such - yes many of the Cardinals have different political views, but just because a Pope may be conservative doesn't necessarily mean that the entire church will become conservative. I have two different feelings about the issue of a more right winged church (should it become that), one is where I am anxious about several issues such as condoms eg.. as birth control etc. but on the other hand I am pleased to see the Church isn't influenced by the public - after all, Catholics follow the Church, not the other way round. Initially, there is historical precedence for a Liberal church, the Protestant Church became more liberal and its current position today is somewhere between a mess and disfunctional. As much as I would have liked a Black Pope or someone from South America, it really isn't my choice. As a Catholic (And now I am going all out preachy here - excuse me) this is what God has chosen. Maybe its a good choice in that the Western world seems to have lost all sense of morality - which has been conviently covered by the veil of "Liberalism". I wish the new Pope well. - Callidus [View Quote] strike rapierApr 20, 2005, 3:15pm
Its more a matter of how much damage would he cause, I for one am not
religious (although I have certain thoughts on God etc) but I think the church should have chosen someone who is more likely to have moved on, started promoting contraception in Africa etc. -- - Mark Randall http://zetech.swehli.com [View Quote] sw chrisApr 20, 2005, 7:14pm
I agree. That was the last thing I had expected to come from you. And
that's a good thing. Very encouraging. Sort of what I was trying to say by my snappy little comment above. Respect. Kudos. And whatever other buzzwords that people are using that otherwise convey good feelings and such. :P Chris [View Quote] tart sugarApr 20, 2005, 7:18pm
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They purposely picked an older man to be Pope. The most desirable "life
expectancy" for a serving Pope is 5 - 10 years only, as crass as that sounds. John Paul's reign was almost 30 years. I think his was the 3rd longest reign in the history of the Papacy. ~TS callidusApr 20, 2005, 8:06pm
sw chrisApr 21, 2005, 10:37pm
Oh something witty along the lines of this:
http://www.starwarsfanworks.com/temp/wha.jpg :P Chris [View Quote] count draculaMay 8, 2005, 1:46pm
Yet another old man to lead the brainless, who cannot think for themsleves.
Dont use a condom, because...yes why? Because some 80 years old bitter guy who has not gotten much action himslef say so. They should just join the vatican to Italy, no logic one branch of belivers need a country of their own. Just doing damage with their concervative ways of telling ppl how to live their lives. People should use logic and not some old BS from 2000 years ago in their daily decissions. "Gnu32" <simplaza at simplaza.net> kirjoitti viestiss news:4265438e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com... > Yay for Joseph Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI, the newest pope elected 30 > minutes ago =D > > (Don't ask why it is me who posted this, i was bored) broMay 8, 2005, 3:37pm
Welcome back! You never change. It is bit more complex that some 80
year old man being bitter. Anyway this not the place for such talk."Count [View Quote] orbMay 8, 2005, 3:42pm
There's nothing wrong with spirituality. There is even less wrong with
people chosing to be spiritual together and sharing a light, wisdom and insight. There is power in prayer and it's a proven fact oh 'faithless one'. You do nothing but criticize and turn things dark anymore. count draculaMay 9, 2005, 10:24am
I am sorry if I cannot belive in mumble jumble and in greater forces. It
just pisses me off to see people act unlogical in masses. If standing on a railroad track and a train is aproaching, you can pray as much as you want, but if YOU do not make the decission to step aside, you are fu**ed. Seems people think that if they belive in something hard it it will happen. Unfortunatly things only happen according to what you and other people and animal choose to do. There is nothing such as faith or coincidenses. Everything in this world happens for a reason. When throwing a dice, the result will depend on the force used to throw, drop distance, angles and friction. No gods or spiritual things has anything to do with it. I might critizes what I find unlogical, that is my right. Religions has bitterened my and so many peoples life in the world through history. So many people has been killed in the name of religions, and still is. I find it amazing that still in 2005 people have religions; but I guess it only proofs that mankind is not by far ready for a realistic good life. The day all people would abandon religions and started to belive in logic, there would not be any wars or crime anymore. It is a utopi since people are by far not ready to think by themselves but need religions to forgive them their sins and guide them in thinking. Al-Quida, Ku Klux Klan, IRA etc etc, all use religion as an excuse for what they do; might be its not the real reason, but this show how easy it is to trick people to do insane things in the name of religion. If your religion say something is evil, you do not question it, but you act according to how your leader says. I am basically saying, one do not need a religion to be a "good" person, on the contrary I belive one cannot be "good" until one question every belief. No reason to abondon logical good rules. So yes the Bible say "Thou shall not kill" that is a good rule to follow and its not unlogical, I do not need to be a christian to realise that. So when if my country would decide to go to war I would as a christian stand up and say NO, I cannot support this since its against the word in the bible. Do all christians in world refuse to kill or support a goverment who declare war? No, this just show how the basic rules can be twisted in a religion to fit the purpose. Do not kill suddenly become, yes you can kill if you do it to bring freedom? *shrug* So maybe I bring darkness, but rather that than some false hope about eternal life in paradise. Time for mankind to wake up from the dream and realise that we live ones, when we close our eyes its over. Live your life without stupid regulating rules, there is no such thing that your suffering here will be rewarded afterwards. "ORB" <SharonClarke at hotmail.com> kirjoitti viestiss news:427e4187$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com... > There's nothing wrong with spirituality. There is even less wrong with > people chosing to be spiritual together and sharing a light, wisdom and > insight. There is power in prayer and it's a proven fact oh 'faithless > one'. You do nothing but criticize and turn things dark anymore. > > lady nighthawkMay 9, 2005, 2:26pm
I disagree Drac, but I am entitled to my opinion/belief as are you :o} Nice
to see you back, hope you are well. LNH -- [View Quote] veraMay 9, 2005, 2:56pm
And yet you call yourself Count Dracula.......lol........ go figure:)))
[View Quote] > Yet another old man to lead the brainless, who cannot think for themsleves. > Dont use a condom, because...yes why? Because some 80 years old bitter guy > who has not gotten much action himslef say so. > > They should just join the vatican to Italy, no logic one branch of belivers > need a country of their own. Just doing damage with their concervative ways > of telling ppl how to live their lives. People should use logic and not some > old BS from 2000 years ago in their daily decissions. > > "Gnu32" <simplaza at simplaza.net> kirjoitti viestiss > news:4265438e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com... policeMay 10, 2005, 2:45am
On 9 May 2005 07:24:09 -0500, "Count Dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi>
[View Quote] >I am sorry if I cannot belive in mumble jumble and in greater forces. It >just pisses me off to see people act unlogical in masses..... I completely agree with you, Count Dracula. Police (aka Vips) sweMay 11, 2005, 3:03pm
"The day all people would abandon religions and started to believe in logic,
there would not be any wars or crime anymore." Emm, no, not really. Wars and crimes are usually not about religion, but about greed. greed for power, for money, for whatever. if religion does anything, quiet a lot of the time, it's a reason not to do those things, not to sin. It's like saying what's the point for certain laws, like, speed limits or whatever, and it's because not everybody has enough common sense to decide whether or not something is ok or the consequences of their actions. Religion quiet alot of the time gives people a reason not to steal, kill, rape, harm people and whatever, and also gives people hope and gives them reasons to do things to help each other. ya, a person's conscience has alot to do with that too, but so does religion, and without religion the world would NOT be a utopia, but thier would just be less restricitions on a person's conscience. and yes, sometimes people do things, and use religion as an excuse, but thats only because they don't acutally follow the religion they're using as an excuse. So who's the say that the world wouldn't be a better place if everyone was alittle more religious? But ya, i agree about questioning. You can't truely believe in something, unless you question it. You have to question it, and wonder why, otherwise, you're just following something you don't understand, and that's just the same as not following anything at all. -SWE [View Quote] |
