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Mar 29, 2005, 3:42am

Its really nice being banned from AW GZ by the peacekeepers. its called
EOS, eject on site. It happens to you if you have conversations with
pks in there non pk name useing telegrams and they take it personal and
fight back with lies and false chatlogs. These pks eject my cit at AW gz
and also they will bring a pk bot to my outpost in AW and eject me there
if I am in that area. Join in the humor and laugh that i am no longer
allowed at gz for who knows how long :) GO PKS!

Mar 29, 2005, 4:03am

Don't pin this on the whole PK organization. I've noticed them to be a very
competant organization for years now. Granted they may have a few bad
apples, given their size. I'm sure they'll deal with it fairly... give it
time.

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Mar 29, 2005, 4:11am

Give it time and take it to official, formal channels I should say...vs
ranting about it here.

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Mar 29, 2005, 4:43am

Um O what happened DB? Could you explain so we can comment? or someone else
explain why Mr. Duskbat has been ban form his builds.

Mar 29, 2005, 5:28am

This is indeed a serious matter for the community if this is so.

It underlies some allegedly substanional abuses in power and indeed a full
explanation should be called for by yourself Duskbat for the exact reasons
as to your eject and especially to such an over the top extent.

As a community we should be asking if this is true- what will stop this from
further actions against other citezens?

Allegedly being ejecting from your own builds in alphaworld? Seems a bit
extreme and smells funny to me...

I have viewed you previous comments in the news groups against Class 3- it
would seem to point towards a personal vendetta in light of recent events
having witnessed the presence of Belfalest and Class 3 at your Outpost
recently making various implications and remarks- both of whom implied you
were being watched and was meant to be a visit to "let you know whos boss"
in my oppinion- although unfourtuantly i do not have the Bot chat log saved
to prove it.

Although ofcourse this has all been implied, the fact still remains there is
a serious problem here if a substantional explanation is not given. The
reputaion of the PK core and the way in which it works I would suggest
relies upon its Citezens to work together and to bring together a community
with the peace keeping function they should and so often do provide to a
very high standard.

I am sure if the eject is not explained or removed wihtout good reasons
being given then it will not do the core or aw any favours with respects to
citezens relations and this is not benificiary to anyone.

Actions have consequences- and if there is a reason for your eject you
should be told- it is a purely blatent form of logic that subscribes too
the idea that in the future- you will know what you did wrong and not do it
again.

Be an idea to sort this one out chaps and chapesses before any real damage
is done.

The Heretik.


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Mar 29, 2005, 7:32am

Well, what did he do exactly that prompted this....in english please. LOL

Mar 29, 2005, 12:24pm

well i just woke up and went to aw gz. got ejected right away and i
dont know by who. red satin o said to some cits i am very bad. and i
have come to find out that this is partly because i got into it with
class 3 at gz and posted his negitive comments in a chat window abd
then told him to shut up. from that point a week ago, he has had PKS
eject me on site. Now yall tell me that from what u have seen of my
actions is this warrented? i never go over the line here i hardly go to
GZ and i am mainly a builder class 3 is ignoring me as the PK email.
and the other Pks who are following me around for my ejections are just
tellin me they have to do this then they ask em what i did. i am
really sorry but this isnt cool i been here longlong time pay lots of
money and do lots of good here :( last nite i got ejected 3 times 1
hour each 2 times for lurkin silent at GZ and once for talkin to me pals
there. I am not one to get upset online, i dont follow logs and
reports and complaints. I filed a complaint about this tho. LEts find
out why the PKs do this to me, i did nothing wrong, nothing i havnt
done for the past 8 years in aw ; ) byeeeee

Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from aw
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from aw
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from aw



Linn: Dusk is brb
Ashley: it's edgefest 14 not 13 LOL
Duskbat: i am back
DaBean e: o lol
Light Form: welcome back
Duskbat: :))
Shannon777: wb, Dusk :)
Duskbat: licks Shannon
DaBean e: Shan Shan!!
Light Form: Yikes! Wheres my candy then!
Ashley: http://www.kdge.com/edgefest/ :)
Shannon777: licks you, hehe ! ;)
Heretik: wbwbwbwbwbwbwbw Duskbat!!
Duskbat: :)) whoof!
Heretik: moo
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from aw



i wasnt even talkin he

3rd Rock: Save these .wav's to C:\Active Worlds\default\Sounds folder.
3rd Rock: make them read only
"coldffusion828": hi
"coldffusion828": hi all
"IHNK": Hellooo ladies.
John Tirado: What happened to your cit?
"coldffusion828": anyone wanna share thier citzen name and password with
me? that way i don't have to pay for it.
3rd Rock: ahh the direct approach
"Wendel": Why do you need to be a citizen?
"coldffusion828": hey i'm 17years old and have no money to pay for this.
i here being a citizen is cool
John Tirado: I asked what happened to his cit
"coldffusion828": and you get fmore stuff
"IHNK": Don't talk to me like that, Tirado.
John Tirado: I was just asking...
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from aw



i just found out chatlog dosnt save telegrams oh well



Telegram from Leadfoot, sent Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:35 PM:
sorry but as a formal PK you know you do what is told


Telegram from Leadfoot, sent Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:33 PM:
I dont know what the deal is but stacee is trying to find out .



oh well wish i had some of those class 3 grams and pk 44 grams but i
dont.
pk 44 said he does what he is ordered to do then askes me why i am eos
in a gram haha

and class 3 says i am under this big deal blow out pk super
investagation for among other things my grams.

all she wrote : )

Mar 29, 2005, 3:57pm

now now duskbat it's that word you use without proper content and you know
it happens every time

Mar 29, 2005, 4:08pm

The chat log doesn't record whispers or grams but you can copy and paste
your scroll log into a text file and save that way, or as someone else
suggested ... screen cap it.

Contact AWI directly if you have a problem and give them time to
investigate.

LNH


> i just found out chatlog dosnt save telegrams oh well
> Telegram from Leadfoot, sent Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:33 PM:
> I dont know what the deal is but stacee is trying to find out .

> and class 3 says i am under this big deal blow out pk super investagation
> for among other things my grams.

Mar 29, 2005, 4:43pm

he doesn't whisper it :-)



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Mar 29, 2005, 4:49pm

has to be the actual chat log to send to AW :-)


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Mar 29, 2005, 5:32pm

X___________________________________________X at how hard that was to read,
but interesting chat logs to say the least, if those give full context.

Judging my his first post, I don't believe duskbat was saying that they
brought eject bots to his outpost. He said "they WILL bring a pk bot to my
outpost in AW" which is a mere prediction.

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Mar 29, 2005, 6:38pm

Ah point taken, I misunderstood on that F; although my Bot was there when
Class 3 and Belfalest came to the outpost in Bold and hung around long
enough to make vieled implications, which is not in my oppinion what the
PeaceKeepers should be about, indeed if it was a personal matter between
Class3 and Duskbat, Class 3 as a memeber of the PeaceKeepers should be able
to deal with it him/herself and aviod a situation where by it seems as if
the Citezen is being "Ganged up upon" by more than one PK.
I have actually witnessed Belfalest and Class 3 together before using this
tactic, safety in numbers it would seem.
It takes two Peacekeepers to deal with the mighty Duskbat? LOL *Rolls eyes
as wide as they will go*
Begs the question involving a lightbulb that one.... How embarressing :P
Im not even going to go into all the implications of that, kinda sad
though..
Anyways...
If this is a personal vendetta that is being played out here then as a
community we should be gramming these people to find out why this is
actually happening.. I would suggest 5-10 grams each from everybody :P They
could be just blank grams...
Indeed we do only have Duskbats word that Class 3 "wants to rape him with a
fish" or is a "homosexual", (shame we do not have the grams to prove it
either way) -but this is far from the point and something smells, so I would
urge for the sake of the community's stability and in the interests of AW,
that Duskbat, a longtime citezen and paying memember is given a decent
explanation.
The Cores silence on this matter will only cause fuel eruptions within the
community and serve to cause more distrust in my experience if my
observations of preivious miscalculations are duplicated. Actions have
consequences.
We should have the same innocent til proven guilty approach here as we do in
any civilised world, not meat out punishment in a Tolertarian unexplained
random manner as here in AW as it would appear to be done in this case.
This matter is already embarressing, I do hope it is sorted out duely.

Heretik.

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Mar 29, 2005, 7:08pm

I have no idea if you deserved to be ejected from GZ, but I am sure there is
no reason for a PK to have a bot go to any citizens build and eject him
there...


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Mar 29, 2005, 7:57pm

It's about friggin' time the PK's get looked into. =D

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Mar 29, 2005, 8:08pm

^_^ well said enzo

-Matt

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:16am

ok another nite and i grammed class 3. there is no way they will let me
in gz with out PKS ejecting me. now being that i am under there super
investagition i am conserned for my personal info getting out there. I
am sure they would love to contact my isp and let them know i abuse pks
and shut my isp account down. how far do they go. what is there to
investagate. They have Pks watch there contact list and when i turn aw
on PKs race to aw to wait for me. how would u guys like all that. A
personal problem with a pk can turn real big. they really are the
online police here and they will dowhat they can to find out your phone
# for home and work as well as your addredd to your home, i know this.
when i was a PK class 3 told me that its always inportant to have the
upper hand and try to get anything u can about ppl IP addy, home info,
where they work and love or go to school. all with the support of AWI
or whoever owns aw. I appreaciate any support i have gotten on this.
its rather silly but its real. for those who know me over the years
will know i am mellow, calm and nice and i am very fun and have a good
time. telling a pk to shut is a good time. telling a pk to shut up
outloud because line by line they post the aw rule book on your whispers
is a good time.

Immigration Officer: Warning: your citizenship expires in 20 days. To
extend your citizenship, press the Renew button in the toolbar.

maybe i not renew this time, Pks run away a customer! how bout that!

today i send 2 emails to PK office and 2 emails to AW. No answers from
PK office. aw told me they see nothing wrong with me and there is no
problems.

whos next to get this treatment!
tell a pk to shut up in whisper or outloud and its you. they are
cracking down.

PKs! get a girlfriend!

your friend dusky : )

(spell chekr broke )

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:43am

Linn!!
since when is lick, and or licks a bad word!!! :)))

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Mar 30, 2005, 1:05am

> Immigration Officer: Warning: your citizenship expires in 20 days. To
> extend your citizenship, press the Renew button in the toolbar.
>
> maybe i not renew this time, Pks run away a customer! how bout that!



Aww come on now...correct me if I'm wrong but is this the first time you've
had serious trouble with the PKs? Your at AWGZ everytime I go there, for
year after year and year now. One bad experience and your calling it quits?
O_o

Mar 30, 2005, 1:29am

well yes 1st time in serious trouble with pk and not being able to go to
gz is pretty bad. whats serious is that no one knows whats up. we are
talking eject on site untill class 3 changes his mind. and yes if this
contines i will not renew why pay 60 bucks to get ejected from GZ un
warrented. its all or nothing

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>
>
>
> Aww come on now...correct me if I'm wrong but is this the first time you've
> had serious trouble with the PKs? Your at AWGZ everytime I go there, for
> year after year and year now. One bad experience and your calling it quits?
> O_o
>
>

Mar 30, 2005, 1:49am

During those 20 days its highly likley Class 3 is going to go in the
TaLLan Bin, so that you won't have to worry about him
That is, if this whole thing is true.
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Mar 30, 2005, 1:51am

lol whats a tallan bin!!??

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Mar 30, 2005, 2:30am

I too have a similar problem. It's an employer who does not like me because
of something that I have not done but that she perceives to be real. I'm
finding that the best way to handle this is to do pretty much what you're
doing, with the exception of venting about it in a place like the newsgroups
where Class 3 can see what you're typing. Not smart for you. :)

Your best bet seems to be to go above Class 3's head and talk to a core
member who will be sympathetic to your problem. Or have you alienated them
too? :P This would be my next move. I would go above my employer's head
and appeal to her and ask that person if they had any advice for dealing
with the situation without coming off as complaining.

If you can't get anywhere and this harassing behavior continues, have a
phone call with JP or Enzo. Enzo seems to be looking in on this problem
too, so you don't have to worry too much about it. He might help you out as
long as you don't make your self look bad.

Chris

p.s. Turning your privacy function on might help you to also avoid further
harassment. I don't think PKs can see through that to tell whether or not
you're online.


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Mar 30, 2005, 3:38am

He's referring to a certain overly zealous gatekeeper who was rightly
stuffed, tarred, feathered, and hung out to dry because he kept harassing
some of us. It's best not to discuss it here.

Chris

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Mar 30, 2005, 5:08am

lol well that's one way of putting it :P
In other words, taking your problem to official channels will yield results
the quickest.
Add all the PK core to your contact list and try to get a 1 on 1
conversation with them in AW when you see one pop online.
Don't let some PK determine your citizenship. That's crazy talk X_X

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Mar 30, 2005, 12:41pm

class 3 can not issue a EOS, only the PKCore can do this.




[View Quote] > well yes 1st time in serious trouble with pk and not being able to go to
> gz is pretty bad. whats serious is that no one knows whats up. we are
> talking eject on site untill class 3 changes his mind. and yes if this
> contines i will not renew why pay 60 bucks to get ejected from GZ un
> warrented. its all or nothing
>
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Mar 30, 2005, 2:42pm

.... Class 3 is part of the PK Core..

Really only AWI should be able to do this, as PK's have no actual
represented standing in AW/

- MR

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Mar 30, 2005, 3:16pm

Hi everyone....... I just like to add my opinion on this matter because latelly
I am seeing a lot of "personal bussiness" get involved in the vollunteer
bussiness. We need to stop all this..... You guys that are doing a favor to the
program and helping make things better need to remember that everytime you dress
as a PK or GK or AWSchool Teacher or whatever.... The old clothes need to be in
the CLOSET......LOL... please... we should never never mix personal to the work
we are doing in AW.... It's a question of respect....No matter what the other
citizens are. We can make mistakes just like them......So please stop using the
so called "POWER" to take care your personal matters here. Thanks:))). And sorry
for the bad english:))))

[View Quote] > I too have a similar problem. It's an employer who does not like me because
> of something that I have not done but that she perceives to be real. I'm
> finding that the best way to handle this is to do pretty much what you're
> doing, with the exception of venting about it in a place like the newsgroups
> where Class 3 can see what you're typing. Not smart for you. :)
>
> Your best bet seems to be to go above Class 3's head and talk to a core
> member who will be sympathetic to your problem. Or have you alienated them
> too? :P This would be my next move. I would go above my employer's head
> and appeal to her and ask that person if they had any advice for dealing
> with the situation without coming off as complaining.
>
> If you can't get anywhere and this harassing behavior continues, have a
> phone call with JP or Enzo. Enzo seems to be looking in on this problem
> too, so you don't have to worry too much about it. He might help you out as
> long as you don't make your self look bad.
>
> Chris
>
> p.s. Turning your privacy function on might help you to also avoid further
> harassment. I don't think PKs can see through that to tell whether or not
> you're online.
>
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Mar 30, 2005, 4:48pm

No bad english there. :)

Chris

Mar 30, 2005, 5:10pm

hmmm .... as I read the PK's homepage, Class 3 is not a member of the PKCore.



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