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Sep 19, 2002, 7:54pm

I checked the Better Business Bureau and this is all they had when the
company was in Florida;

http://www.clearwater.bbb.org/common.html?location=/home/common/www/mis67/re
port.php&bureau=clear&compid=18002305&national=Y

Sep 19, 2002, 8:12pm

Found this just now

Site Tested mostwanteddomains.com
Type of Web Server Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.2.2

My goodness.....Alpha was a great teacher:)

Sep 19, 2002, 9:15pm

http://216.239.35.100/search?q=cache:CQP8aS94FH8C:www.awnews.com/

For those who want one last glimpse at it's old news headlines.

--Bowen--

Sep 19, 2002, 11:19pm

Either goob, or the mwd guy, or some other random person must have
registered awnews.org, and just now. I do a whois on it and it says its
availible, but then I do a search to see if its availible and it isnt.
Odd...


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Sep 19, 2002, 11:24pm

Squatters Paradise: http://www.snapnames.com/


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Sep 19, 2002, 11:35pm

WHOIS is slow

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Sep 20, 2002, 12:08am

Yes, most sites say to allow 3 days for the whois information to update.

maki awmaki.com
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Sep 20, 2002, 12:27am

Relax folks, that's just me. AWNews.org should be under my control,
pending approval of my credit card. It's all good. :)

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Goober King
It's not WHOIS that's slow...
robrod at prism.net

Sep 20, 2002, 12:42am

Hmmmm...that's in my home town.


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Sep 20, 2002, 12:44am

Congrats Goobs!
Now AWNews can make it's return....yayyyyyy!
Pssssst.....that doesn't mean I am giving up the ship though:)
Looking forward to seeing AWNews back:)
Hugggs:)
Bit:)

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Sep 20, 2002, 12:58am

Does this mean that we have to cancel the 'pitchfork the web company to death' convention scheduled next week? I already bought a straw hat.

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Sep 20, 2002, 2:25pm

The wois says :

AWNews
Robert Rodehorst
7 Harbor Village Dr. Apt 4
Middletown, RI 02842
US
Phone: (401) 848-7425
Email: robrod at prism.net


If it's not one of "us", what about goint to Aruba?
www.news.aw is not taken (http://www.setarnet.aw/domreg.html)


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Sep 20, 2002, 3:21pm

R. Rodehorst is GK -- well, he used to use that name for e-mails, anyway :P. He made an earlier post in this thread:

"Relax folks, that's just me. AWNews.org should be under my control, pending approval of my credit card. It's all good. :)"

All hail the return of AWNews! *chants*

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Sep 20, 2002, 3:46pm

I think you should still call the site AWNews.Com since you can claim
intellectual copyright on the name of the website (not necesarily the
domain) and its contents.

Chris

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Sep 20, 2002, 3:51pm

o_0 Did u have to tell everyone goobers personal info on the NG? lol

- Mark
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Sep 20, 2002, 4:15pm

Some of this may be bogus, because let's face it. I'm not a lawyer. ALWAYS
get legal advice from a professional and don't listen to me if you go
forward with a suit. This is just general information.

INFO ON TRADEMARKS

You cannot get trademarks unless you are selling something. However you can
probably claim to be a non-profit one-man organization, in the same way that
Worldwide Media Inc or whatever its called a for-profit one-man
organization. I'll post some info about trademarks on the newer thread.

Chris

Lanham Act of 1946
A. Legal Requirements
1. must be used with an actual product or intention to market a product
2. Trademark must be distinctive enough
3. Trademark must not be confusingly similar to trademarks of other
goods.
4. Trademark must not be deceptive, immoral, or scandalous
5. Trademark must not be only descriptive.
6. Trademark must not consist of photos or signature of a person without
prior consent.
7. Trademark must not be geologically descriptive in origin.
8. Trademark must not be a surname.
B. Types of Trademarks that are Protected
1. Housemarks or trademarks.
2. Trade characters
3. Service marks
4. Collective marks
5. Certification marks
6. Slogans (also usually protected by copyright) if slogan has a
secondary meaning attached to it, i.e. McDonald's slogan for its Big Mac.

INFO ON COPYRIGHTS
As I said before, you can claim intellectual copyright and being a
non-profit one-man organization, and probably because you have this at the
bottom of your website:

"All logos and trademarks in this site are property of their respective
owner.
Comments are the property of their respective posters and do not necessarily
reflect the views of AWNews.com. All other content © 2000-2002 AWNews.com."

Notice the .COM there. Goob, I would still call your site/organization
AWNews.com even if you have to set up a temporary domain at AWNews.org. In
my reckoning, if you change your name, you just provide Berkins that much
more ammunition.

The Copyright Law is designed to protect authorship of creative and written
works, including books, music, performances, art, computer software, and
advertisements.

Proof of Existance Statement to make me look cool ---> The above
information comes from Kansas State's University's Principles of Advertising
class. Proof of the above laws existance can be found by referencing the
Lanham Act of 1946 or Copyright Law via appropriate legal channels.

DIGITAL MILLENIUM COPYRIGHT ACT OF 1998
The Act is designed to implement the treaties signed in December 1996 at the
World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) Geneva conference, but also
contains additional provisions addressing related matters. You can find an
overview and the full text of the act here:
http://www.gseis.ucla.edu/iclp/dmca1.htm

DMCA probably has very little to do with this situation, as Copyright Law
takes care of most of that, in my reckoning.

SW Chris

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Sep 20, 2002, 4:17pm

The copyright info on AWNews.com is cached by Google:
http://216.239.35.100/search?q=cache:CQP8aS94FH8C:www.awnews.com/

Just putting it in a reply to this text in case we need it later and can
easily find it.

Chris

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Sep 20, 2002, 4:22pm

If you read more thoroughly, then you will observe that Ananas did not realize that this person was Goober King.

Besides, a whois on a domain name shows *public* information. It doesn't exactly take a genius to go search the records...

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Sep 20, 2002, 4:32pm

Yeah but how many people actually bother.

- Mark
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Sep 20, 2002, 4:34pm

Several people obviously do. Regardless of how many people "bother" to go and look it up, it is still considered public (available to just about anyone) information.

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Sep 20, 2002, 4:41pm

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--Bowen--

Sep 20, 2002, 4:42pm

Yep, I saw that later :)

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Sep 20, 2002, 6:20pm

Oh no! My secret's out! Whatever shall I do?!? *panic* ;P

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Goober King
Admitting he's a... a... BOB!
robrod at prism.net

Sep 20, 2002, 6:24pm

The problem is a copyright isn't enough to get the domain back,
according to both register.com and IARegistry.com's Dispute Policy. We
need to have a trademark, not a copyright. I can contact register.com
and see if a copyright would be enough, but I doubt it, even for a
non-profit org. (Technically, we're not a one-man operation... ;P)

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Goober King
An army of one...
robrod at prism.net

Sep 20, 2002, 6:28pm

Technically Mikey's not incorperated.

--Bowen--

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Sep 20, 2002, 6:40pm

Bolt your doors and instuct the local police to shoot Joeman on sight :P

- Mark

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Sep 20, 2002, 7:37pm

It has nothing to do with Mikey. In order for me to have a legitimate
case, I need to have a TM that is in direct conflict with the domain
name, that's all there is to it.

Although, the Dispute Policy also said a Service Mark (SM) was
acceptable. Chris, think AWNews would be eligible for an SM? :)

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Goober King
AWNews.com™©® Editor in Chief
robrod at prism.net

Sep 20, 2002, 7:40pm

Or yuo need to prove that he is using the site as a hit dragger because it has had its advertising done by another entity and then been stolen without agreement.

- Mark
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Sep 20, 2002, 8:32pm

Well Goob, perhaps. But I'm not entirely sure what an SM is, or if it's
retroactive.

Are you sure you have to meet _all_ three of those requirements you posted?
I really would get a lawyer's advice. There are services out there on the
net where you can get a legal opinion, but it might work out better if you
asked someone local.

They say hindsight is 20/20. But thwack Cyb0r one anyways for me for not
bothering to renew and transfer... ;P

SW Chris

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Sep 20, 2002, 8:42pm

? :o

-Joe

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