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Nov 10, 2001, 8:00pm
This post might be old, but I'd like to see more AW stuff available in linux
(I'm running a linux box dualed with Windows)
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"jerme" <JerMe at nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> Many of you probably heard me asking Rolad about an SDK for UNIX/Linux
> at the last TechTalk. I just want to see how much support there is for
> this? How many of you would take up programming projects for a linux/unix
> server environment? Better yet, how many of you even own a machine that
> runs linux? I am astounded that there has not been an SDK for Linux from
the
> start because of the potential that the server and SDK have paired
together.
> When you have a piece of server software, it better be compiled for Linix,
> if it's any good. AW's got that part figured out. But the SDK goes hand in
> hand with the server. Therefore, It too should be able to run in a server
> environment (a.k.a. Unix/Linux). The SDK can do many helpful things now,
on
> windows machines. Think what would happen if you paired that with a
*server*
> environment. You'd have bots that did a lot more useful things than just
> standing around playing games with people. I have 20 or so great ideas,
I'm
> just waiting on that SDK.
>
> After coming to the realization, however, that most people host their
> worlds from their personal windows machine, it all starts to make sense.
> The SDK for Linux has not been a priority because there aren't that many
> hosts, or users for that matter, that run Unix/Linux. What it boils down
to
> is that 'Management' doesn't want to take on the project because they
> believe the usefulness does not justify the expense (in man hours,
support,
> etc.. ) it would take to create it. I'd like to see if this theory is
true.
> Please speak up if you think it's a great idea, a waste of time, not
> necessasary, or whatever. How many of the programmers out there would use
> it? Do you think AW has bigger projects that they should be concentrating
> on, and not wasting time on this? Please let me know your opinons...
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Jeremy Booker
> JTech Web Systems
> (www.JTechWebSystems.com -- Coming Soon)
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Nov 18, 2001, 3:37pm
I was wondering, since I saw this on another post in the wishlist NG.. who
ported the aw sdk to PHP and if there is a copy of it. Thanks ahead of time
:)
--Bowen--
Nov 18, 2001, 4:29pm
I'm not a very good programmer.. I know a little PHP that's about it in the
web programming area.. I'd know little about anything else.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> It has been done, and last I heard, hes just not giving it out. You could
> make your own... Also, you could use the AWsdkocx, by connecting to it as
a
> com object, you can get many of the same results, minus the event
> handling... If you want any help with it, email me and I can get you
> started.
>
> -Joe
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3bf7f1de$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
who
> time
>
>
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Nov 19, 2001, 12:58am
Well since PHP is universal to the operating systems, you'd think you could
use the SDK in a unix system just with few modifications.. since a PHP in
windows is 99% the same as PHP in Unix :).. I hope it's not one of those d1%
deals like my computer is with everything 3d.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> Well, yes, currently the SDK only runs on windows. So it would only be
> possible for a PHP AW SDK to run on windows.
>
> -Joe
>
> "ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message
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> isn't
> for
> could
>
>
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Nov 19, 2001, 2:31am
well there's only a couple of windows specific things that I've seen.. the
printer one being the major thing. But I really don't think it'll be
incompatible because you might just be able to carry the aw.dll with you and
use it as you would in windows with php. I dunno though, like I said I'm
not the greatest programmer :)
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3BF8797F.F07809FA at oct31.de...
> The way functions are added to PHP is not identical
> in Linux and Windows, but compareable - but you need
> functions that you can add.
> The DLL that includes the AW-SDK into PHP cannot be
> much more than a wrapper that hangs those function
> into the interpreter's chained function list. But in
> order to create such a wrapper you need something to
> wrap - for windows that is the AW.DLL, but there is no
> pendant for Linux.
>
> bowen wrote:
could
in
d1%
be
>
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Nov 20, 2001, 1:41am
exactly what I was thinking.. it'd be a good way to make a bank bot for
example.. it could keep track of things in a database instead of a text
file.. and it might actually be better :) you could assign pin #'s and
etcetera.. it'd still be good to make server enhancements.. say I want to
give someone access to their world I'm hosting.. to make propdumps.. that'd
be a great thing to allow them to do! Even if I can only do it on a windows
system at the moment.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3BF9C41F.59FCFBE4 at oct31.de...
> A bot and a web page could work well together, especially when
> web page (and bot) are on the same host as the world server.
> No need to have a separate PC always running.
>
> Sure PHP is not the ideal language for a bot, but a nice
> enhancement for a world information page for example.
>
> joeman wrote:
I
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Nov 20, 2001, 3:20pm
LoL like I said.. I'm not good with programming C\C++ VB(I'm anitMS for the
most part) and all the rest.. so if I can get ahold of the SDK for PHP it'd
make my life easier :) You could be doing something wrong with the PHP that
causes it to crash.. or you're using an out of date server or php module.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> Why not just use straight PHP and MySQL for a bank bot? Also, propdumping
> in PHP is very, uhm, un-workable :). I implemented it in my world
> administration program, and it did not work very well, it often time timed
> out or crashed the server. You could have a background C\C++ app doing
> everything and have PHP communicate with it :).
>
> -Joe
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3bf9d0f3$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
to
> that'd
> windows
> news:3BF9C41F.59FCFBE4 at oct31.de...
> go.
> web-user-registration
> Although
>
>
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Nov 20, 2001, 3:52pm
VB? hah that'd be backstepping ;). If I'm going anywhere it's to C++ LoL..
since php is basically a form of it.. what kind of webserver are you using
anyways? apache, or that other crap like xitami or whatnot.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> Nope, its all up to date. Latest version of PHP, latest version of
windows,
> all updated, there is nothing wrong with the code. PHP just isnt designed
> for such things. You cant make welcome bots or something with it. Come
to
> the dark side, pick up a copy of VB and program with that, it is the best
> way to do what you want.
>
> -Joe
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3bfa90f7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> the
> it'd
> that
module.
> propdumping
> timed
doing
> for
> text
and
want
way
> to
> :)
>
>
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Nov 20, 2001, 4:20pm
oh wow you payed for apache? That's crazy :) I'm too cheap that's why I
don't get into non free things.. I'm not made of money like gates is and
can't pay hundreds of dollars for his compilers and etc.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> Im using a off the shelf version of apache, sometimes Sambar, sambar is to
> the internet, apache if its on the network :).
>
> -Joe
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3bfa9874$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> LoL..
> using
> designed
Come
> best
> for
PHP
> PHP
time
> bot
a
#'s
I
> propdumps..
on
> a
the
etc.
> server.
>
>
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Nov 20, 2001, 4:25pm
you said off the shelf version.. that generally means you payed for it from
a retail store
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> .... apache is free....
>
> -joe
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
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is
> to
C++
you
of
the
> <snip>
>
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Nov 20, 2001, 4:26pm
read the above response to joeman and yes it is free.. like I said.. I don't
use the things that aren't ;)
[View Quote]"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
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> Did I miss something? Apache is free... http://www.apache.org/
>
> -Agent1
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
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is to
C++ LoL..
you using
>
>
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Nov 20, 2001, 4:36pm
oh ok my bad ;) so it's just the standard apache then.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"joeman" <Joeman at bootdown.com> wrote in message
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> I'm sorry, I *ment* it to mean as in, I haven mess with it, its standard,
> etc...
>
> -Joe
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
> news:3bfaa028 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> from
why
> I
> and
sambar
to
are
version
> isnt
> it.
is
>
>
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Nov 21, 2001, 2:06am
LoL what makes you think I payed for my cit? :)
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in message
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> AW isn't free :P
>
> Fox Mc Rant
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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> don't
>
>
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Nov 21, 2001, 2:37am
yes some things, not Microsoft things though.. that's a waste of money..
it'll be obselete in a few months.. and then you'll have to buy a new
version to upgrade.. which is more expensive then the actual new program :).
Like windows98 upgrade edition is $20 more then windows 98 itself :) that
sucked.. so I stayed with 95 LoL
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in message
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> Some things are worth paying for...
>
> Fox Mc Cloud
>
>
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Nov 23, 2001, 3:54pm
Hmm you posted this just in time! :) I'm taking up C/C++. Hmm.. how about a
bot that moves in sync with a person? or moves away from then when they get
near?
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
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> I'd be willing to write a bot in C/C++ and explain how it works. All I
need is an idea or two for what it should do. Please keep them fairly simple
so that I can help explain the SDK more than explain how and why my other
programming logic works.
>
> Reply with suggestions -- if I see one I like, I'll do it and post source
code and an explanation after a little while :)
>
> -Agent1
>
>
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Nov 23, 2001, 11:04pm
I see! thanks man :) this'll help me get started.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
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> Take a look in the attached Zip file :) Hope it helps.
>
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
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about a
get
need is an idea or two for what it should do. Please keep them fairly simple
so that I can help explain the SDK more than explain how and why my other
programming logic works.
source code and an explanation after a little while :)
>
>
>
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Nov 24, 2001, 2:54am
I got your bot compiled.. works good except your bot is facing the wrong
way! I'll see if I can fix it :)
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
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> I see! thanks man :) this'll help me get started.
>
> --Bowen--
>
> "agent1" <Agent1 at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3bfebf25$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> news:3bfe8d44$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> about a
they
> get
I
> need is an idea or two for what it should do. Please keep them fairly
simple
> so that I can help explain the SDK more than explain how and why my other
> programming logic works.
> source code and an explanation after a little while :)
>
>
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Nov 25, 2001, 7:01pm
yup Borland uses implib something.lib something.dll to get it converted :).
Not sure if Kah's follows this rule.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3C015301.C9D50884 at oct31.de...
> Looks very much as if the linker would not like the
> microsoft library format. I heard from some people
> who tried different compilers about trouble, either
> with the format or with undefined symbols, some even
> from a standard function that is used wrong in the
> SDK (stricmp(), see note below).
>
>
> Best you would get rid of both libraries and use the
> DLL instead. This requires either a DLL library
> import tool in your compiler or manual imports with
> LoadLibrary(). Most windows developement systems should
> have such an implib tool.
>
> Watcom for example handles the import calls itself,
> by creating an import file for the linker :
> wlib -q -n -b aw.lib aw.dll
> The result is the Watcom version of aw.lib, I attached
> it in Andras' newsgroup, maybe your Bloodshed linker
> is happy with this one, it's worth a try.
>
>
> Libraries in different IDE's always cause trouble, the
> linkers are seldom compatible and the compiler standard
> libraries are only standard for this specific IDE.
> The AW_Static.lib is a microsoft library and might
> work in a microsoft developement system, but you
> should forget the idea to use it in a different one.
>
>
> p.s.: Not on topic but I'll explain :
>
> stricmp() is not a standard function. Ansi compilers
> should preceed it with an underscore so it is actually
> referred to as _stricmp(). some libraries have strcmpi()
> instead, _strcmpi(), bcmpi(), _bcmpi() or strcasecmp().
>
> kah wrote:
the
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Nov 25, 2001, 9:02pm
that's the basic make of the file.. but borland puts some other stuff into
it so it can understand it I guess.. maybe.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3C016E6F.1D45C966 at oct31.de...
> What I found out so far is that it should look
> somehow like this in the Gnu windoze environment :
>
> dlltool --def aw.def --dllname Aw.dll --output-lib aw.a
>
> and the aw.def like this (with no line breaks) :
>
> EXPORTS aw_address aw_avatar_click aw_bool aw_bool_set aw_callback
aw_callback_set aw_cell_next aw_citizen_add aw_citizen_attributes_by_name
aw_citizen_attributes_by_number aw_citizen_change aw_citizen_delete
aw_citizen_next aw_citizen_previous aw_create aw_create_resolved
aw_delete_all_objects aw_destroy aw_enter aw_event aw_event_set aw_exit
aw_float aw_float_set aw_init aw_instance aw_instance_set aw_int aw_int_set
aw_license_add aw_license_attributes aw_license_change aw_license_delete
aw_license_next aw_license_previous aw_login aw_object_add aw_object_change
aw_object_click aw_object_delete aw_object_load aw_object_select aw_query
aw_query_5x5 aw_random aw_say aw_sector_from_cell aw_server_admin
aw_server_world_add aw_server_world_change aw_server_world_delete
aw_server_world_list aw_server_world_set aw_server_world_start
aw_server_world_stop aw_session aw_state_change aw_string aw_string_set
aw_teleport aw_term aw_universe_attributes_change aw_universe_ejection_add
> aw_universe_ejection_delete aw_universe_ejection_lookup
aw_universe_ejection_next aw_universe_ejection_previous aw_url_send aw_wait
aw_whisper aw_world_attribute_get aw_world_attribute_set
aw_world_attributes_change aw_world_attributes_reset aw_world_eject
aw_world_ejection_add aw_world_ejection_delete aw_world_ejection_lookup
aw_world_ejection_next aw_world_ejection_previous aw_world_list
aw_world_reload_registry
>
>
> bowen wrote:
:).
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Dec 14, 2001, 6:07pm
> I cannot find a delphi tutorial that is up-to-date,Do any of you know one?
> I have Delphi Personal (Borland) 6.
> First were can i find a tutorial to learn this programming language and
also
> is
> this the nehwest Delphi?
Any Delphi tutorial should work, if anything is different it won't be too
drastic since it wouldn't make sense for them to change language schematics.
What is the exact problem with the tutorial that you have?
--Bowen--
Dec 14, 2001, 6:24pm
Well the best way if you are going to pay is to go out and get a book for
beginners.. it'll be a lot easier then online tutorials.
Check this out : http://www.festra.com/
This is the best one I could find that pertains to your skill level at the
moment :)
Good luck
--Bowen--
Dec 14, 2001, 7:33pm
www.festra.com
that's free
[View Quote]"ssgoten" <goten362 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I would like to have it for free ... I can't pay right now.
> bowen <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
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for
the
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Dec 16, 2001, 2:22pm
Source code available?
--Bowen--
Dec 16, 2001, 3:52pm
Ok cool, anything wrong if I try to convert this into C++? LoL
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"gamer" <robbie at oriox.com> wrote in message
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> You need these imported too...stupid me :o)
>
> -Gamer
>
> "gamer" <robbie at oriox.com> wrote in message
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Dec 16, 2001, 10:25pm
Hmm.. I think he's trying to say:
"I didn't finish my message before. I'm not going to learn how to program
even though it would be cool to have a bot."
*and he wants to have different versions apparently and wants fan mail if
his bot becomes popular*
"I've decided to stick to web design because there is more there that I want
to do. Like Star Wars and Dragon Ball Z sites, maybe even a zoids site :).
So if you think this is a bad idea tell me, let me hear your comments."
Hope that helps you Ananas or anyone else that couldn't understand it.
--Bowen--
Dec 17, 2001, 1:05am
It's still good practice to make it reasonably clear! I read it once and
couldn't even make it out.. so when ananas asked for a translation I spent
about 5 minutes translating it LoL
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"trekkerx" <zac at commatron.com> wrote in message
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> Talking like he did in chat is okay, but in a letter or e-mail you should
> probly spend a bit more time spelling out the words and not use typos :)
> (Happy faces are okay though)
>
> --
> TrekkerX
> Commatron & Athnex
> http://www.commatron.com
> http://www.athnex.com
> "bowen" <bowen at omegauniverse.com> wrote in message
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program
if
> want
> :).
>
>
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Dec 17, 2001, 7:15pm
Lmao :) that's funny Kah
Jan 11, 2002, 8:35pm
> Hello, people. I'd appreciate any help you can offer in getting started.
> Please forgive questions that don't really make sense or are two
> rudimentary.
>
> I'm interested in starting to learn about and begin program creation for
> the Activeworlds environment and am just now starting my reading through
> the Activeworlds documentation. In it, it refers to C, Java, and Visual
> Basic. I'm trying to decide whether to make C++ or Java my development
> environment. What do most people use? What do you recommend? Among C++
> and Java environments, do people favor Borland or Microsoft? While I
> have a fair amount of programming experience, most of it is many years
> old, so, if I proceed, I will be teaching myself one of these two
> languages as I go. Any links to helpful related sites and general
> suggestions will also be welcomed.
I prefer C++ over the rest of them. I use Borland to compile it :). I'd
say teach yourself C++ then move onto Java if you'd like.
If you use Borland you have to convert some the aw library so Borland can
use it.
Those are my opinions, good luck to you.
--Bowen--
Jan 11, 2002, 9:00pm
> The portability of Java does not help in the AW environment,
> because the AW libraries have not been ported. Coming from C
> it is really easy to do C++, once you know how OO people design,
> you can use C++ and plain C where either of them has its strengths.
>
> Borland, M$ (or the free Watcom http://www.openwatcom.org) :
Borland is free too :). The command compiler that is. It works just as
good as the payed for version.
--Bowen--
Jan 27, 2002, 6:53pm
lmao.. almost as much as you ;)
--Bowen--
[View Quote]"foxmccloud" <FoxMcCloud at cyberbrain.com> wrote in message
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> #include <iostream.h>
> char a[]={22,6,-85,72,-7,21,-17,-69,65,-65,76,3,5,-84,
> 79,-9,-70,84,-11,4,-8,-69,84,-5,-79,87,-22,18,1,-15,
> -57,-12,68,11,-1,-71,77,-84,89,-10,6,-54};
> void main(){for(char i=89,j=0;a[j-2]!=-54;i+=a[j++])cout<<i;}
>
> "baron" <pk39srt at hotmail.com> a écrit dans le message news:
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