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Aug 15, 2001, 10:52pm

jfk2 builder is King Brian K? And btw, since when is an antiquated p2 366
a powerhouse? Only 128k ram, no wonder you lock up. Given the low amount of
ram combined with buggy freeware it should be most expected. Now a 366 is
enough for AW yes, but hardly a server. Start looking up what servers are.
I don't recall a PC (personal computer) ever falling into a server class
machine. Maybe I misunderstood you and you were explaining why you lock up
is because you don't have a sever and run an old machine as one.




[View Quote] > I'm running WIN98se...
> Yes... I do admit that sometimes i do lock up...
> And i have to REBOOT...
> But let me tell you what i'm doing....
>
> 1 - Run 2 worlds now [ALL FOR FREE]
> 2 - 4 open windows to my drives. [2 of them are general windows, 1 is
> the games window & that points to the other universes that i'm a member
> of & one is the utility window menu]
> 3 - My Notetab Light [FREEWARE -
> Thank You Kellee for suggesting this to me]
> 4 - My E-Mail PREVIEW
> program [any Stupid JUNK mail i can delete off the host server WITHOUT
> ever downloading it first. It's great for a FIRST FILTER as i don't
> ever download the junk & only download what I want] [FREEWARE]
> 5 - 2 Preston v33 bots for midi playing at some locations i have
> [FREEWARE]
> 5a - Sometimes either my xylgot bot for World Backups in
> worlds i do not own or host [IE, Beta World, Someone elses world...etc]
> OR my chatbot and that is used for CIT # lookups, And object seeds in a
> baren land OR my BUILD BOT... [After i BOT COPY someones build OR
> someones world and i want to re-create it in another world] [FREEWARE]
> 6 - Xnews = That is what i use to make this reply with. [FREEWARE]
> 7 - Sometimes my FOX E-Mail program [FREEWARE]
> 8 - AW [Can't forget about that can I...
> 9 - From 1 - 4 open IE websites
> 10 - Sometimes i try to run my WinAmp and either listen to
> WWW.AWRADIO.COM = Danny 2K show OR Playing many of the new MP3's that
> either I or my friend nextdoor got for me & are now on CD's [FREEWARE]
> 10a - OR I'm BROADCASTING on WWW.LIVE365.COM [JFKMusic Radio]
> [FREEWARE]
> 11 - And whatever else i can think of...
>
> NOW you must realize that i have a very powerful system here...
> P2 366 mhz on 128 megs of RAM with 5 HD's running WIN98se...
>
> Now you can see why i LOCK-UP sometimes... and even i have to REBOOT.
> But when i reboot... SCANDISK.EXE has 5 Hard Drives it chacks before i
> can even get back on the internet. BUT yes... I can run for the most
> part 24/7 the worlds that i do run... And i run them extreamly well.
> So far i haven't had any complaints.
>
> YES... WIN98se is a stupid OS... But then WIN2000 dosen't allow me to
> run my MS-Dos games too well... Not to mention my QBASIC games & i
> have about 1 GIG of those. And it dosen't allow me to have my old BBS
> On-Line Doors running for friends to play either... So I'm still
> waiting for a better OS to come out that will be CONSUMER and Not
> BUSINESS friendly.
>
> "lanezeri" <Lanezeri at yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:3b77fe83$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>

Aug 13, 2001, 6:51pm

Facter, I would like to know why you have not suspended eep? If you read his
posts you will see for years he has done nothing but drive people away from
these newsgroups. Read the post from Count Dracula stating he will never post
again and you will see an example. Eep has tormented people in all the ng's.
Hope to see you take action with him on his next CR eep y post.


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Aug 21, 2001, 8:49am

Http://worldhosting.heartfall.com hosts worlds in Dreamland Park.


[View Quote] > ERGANT NOTICE!
> i need a hoster for my world in dreamlandpark I NEED A HOSTER all replys are
> wanted!

Aug 21, 2001, 9:07pm

Whatever happened to that new website and all those new objects for
public use? I thought it had a deadline of 8-1-01. Did I miss a new URL
perhaps? Also, I have never heard back after applying for the new web
ring. Is that dead too? Hope it's all going to be going good soon.

Aug 22, 2001, 9:56pm

Glad to see you jump on the issue of the defaming world name hurting
Xelag. Nice to see AWCOM growing to answer the concerns of it's users.
Keep up the good work *S*

Aug 26, 2001, 12:14am

I thought I heard that Vectorscape went bankrupt and is no longer operating
the universe or the world hosting that people paid for. Your post here
states you run a TV for the vectorscape universe. Is it true or false?





[View Quote] > Yes there is... 3 of the ABN tv's operate off of 3 different ABN urls i
> managed to get my hands onand thus are showing different things to
> different places. 2 of more ABN tv's are for 2 different universes.
> Vectorscape & Dreamland Park Universe and thus broadcast something
> different for those universes. 3 TV's are what Chucks Party uses in his
> 360 3d Dome [3 different tv streams each loaded with about 10 different
> pictures each] AND a few from Adama's tv ads services as well and that
> shows a few ads athat are not found on all the other tv's
>
> AND i have 1 Doppler radar tv from New York State [Syracuse Channel 9
> WIXT] to see if the storms are bad enough to shut me. I go off and so
> do 2 worlds. 1 TV Weather doppler for the Melbourne Australia area
> because i have a few friends in Dreamland Park Universe that live there
> and i like to see what they have for their weather [Yes... I know...
> There is at least someone in AW that lives there too...] but it was
> DWEEP that let me have the weather link for that area, 1 TV Weather for
> PERTH Australia area as RYAN [n a y R] is from there and i like to see
> what his doppler weather is as well.
>
> So not all of the tv's are showing ads for AW or other Universes...
> Some of them show 3d graphics [Chucks Party Broadcasting]
> Some show tv Weather Doppler Radar for satates and countries.
>
> "internal affairs" <silverspynet at yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:3b87f3d6$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com:
>

Sep 11, 2001, 12:22am

Zone Alarm does not always detect the actions of backdoors. It is best to use up
to date virus software from major companies like Norton and Mcafee.

http://worldhosting.heartfall.com
http://pathservices.heartfall.com


[View Quote] > Ok, so it's outdated, but what about AW Ear? Wouldn't my firewall (Zone
> Alarm) have asked if it wanted to act as a server when I ran it IF there was
> a trojan in it?
> --
> Chris
> Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master?
> http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html
>
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Sep 24, 2001, 7:43am

Hello all,

I have posted a FREE Lady Liberty 3D model for All who would like have
her in their worlds. Please feel free to use this in as many worlds or
universes as you wish. All textures are included. Build wisely as we
tried to keep the filesize and polys low but still ended up with a
somewhat larger file.
http://www.heartfall.com/aw/free/hfladyliberty.html

Peace, health & healing to all...

InSaNiTy

http://worldhosting.heartfall.com
http://pathservices.heartfall.com

Oct 8, 2001, 11:45pm

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Below is a copy of another email from Noelle at AWcom. Again she
suggests sending credit card information to her via e-mail. Is AW ever
going to become professional and care about anyone else other than
themselves? All professional services warn you never to send important
credit card information via e-mail. They also warn that they will never
ask for personal passwords etc. However, with AWcom, they continue to
treat their clientele with no respect and suggest they risk credit card
security so that they can gain their $$.

Last week I notified AWcom that myself and another customer BOTH
received alarming errors from AWcom's new site after entering credit
card information. Both myself and the other customer were ignored!
Again on Thursday I contacted Tom who again ignored my concern about
their improperly functioning site! Friday a customer used the system
and was double billed by AWcom sending them into overdraft and costing
them fees! AWcom not only double billed them, they immediately killed
their registered trial, and never sent them their new password all
weekend. Now does "Take the Money and Run" sound familiar? The customer
and myself sent e-mails and they were again ignored.

The number one concern of AWcom should be the proper handling of
customers credit cards and moneys!!!!

What does it take?

Letters of complaint to the Better Business Bureau?
http://www.bb.org

Contacting the FTC - Fair Trade Commission?
http://www.ftc.gov/

Contacting your bank and the Credit Card Companies?

I am really tired of the apathy AWcom has surrounding people's security.
It is a shame they only appear to care about themselves and not the
people who pay their wages! It is a sad shame that management appears
nowhere in these matters but the lack of management and concern shows
immensely!

The latest credit card request by Noelle is pasted below:

From: "Noelle" <noelle at activeworlds.com>
To: ###############
References: <#########>
Subject: Re: renewal problems
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:52:22 -0700
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
X-Rcpt-To: <##############>
X-DPOP: DPOP Version 2.7w
X-UIDL: ##############
Status: U

Hello -

Be sure when you are "renewing" you are on the current form. The current

link is http://www.activeworlds.com/products/worlds.asp

You may also send me your order and card information or call
978-499-0222. I
can not renew the world gratis. If you are mailing Tom already I would
suggest you await an e-mail answer from him regarding this matter.

Sincerely,

Noelle Caterino
Customer Service
Activeworlds.com Inc.
95 Parker St.
Newburyport, MA 01950

www.activeworlds.com

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<html>
Below is a copy of another email from Noelle at AWcom.&nbsp; Again she
suggests sending credit card information to her via e-mail. Is AW ever
going to become professional and care about anyone else other than themselves?&nbsp;&nbsp;
All professional services warn you never to send important credit card
information via e-mail. They also warn that they will never ask for personal
passwords etc. However, with AWcom, they continue to treat their clientele
with no respect and suggest they risk credit card security so that they
can gain their $$.
<p>Last week I notified AWcom that myself and another customer BOTH received
alarming errors from AWcom's new site after entering credit card information.
Both myself and the other customer were ignored!&nbsp; Again on Thursday
I contacted Tom who again ignored my concern about their improperly functioning
site!&nbsp;&nbsp; Friday a customer used the system and was double billed
by AWcom sending them into overdraft and costing them fees!&nbsp; AWcom
not only double billed them, they immediately killed their registered trial,
and never sent them their new password all weekend. Now does "Take the
Money and Run" sound familiar?&nbsp; The customer and myself sent e-mails&nbsp;
and they were again ignored.
<p>The number one concern of AWcom should be the proper handling of customers
credit cards and moneys!!!!
<p>What does it take?
<p>Letters of complaint to the Better Business Bureau?
<br><A HREF="http://www.bb.org">http://www.bb.org</A>
<p>Contacting the FTC - Fair Trade Commission?
<br><A HREF="http://www.ftc.gov/">http://www.ftc.gov/</A>
<p>Contacting your bank and the Credit Card Companies?
<p>I am really tired of the apathy AWcom has surrounding people's security.
It is a shame they only appear to care about themselves and not the people
who pay their wages! It is a sad shame that management appears nowhere
in these matters but the lack of management and concern shows immensely!
<p>The latest credit card request by Noelle is pasted below:
<p>From: "Noelle" &lt;noelle at activeworlds.com>
<br>To: ###############
<br>References: &lt;#########>
<br>Subject: Re: renewal problems
<br>Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 14:52:22 -0700
<br>MIME-Version: 1.0
<br>Content-Type: text/plain;
<br>&nbsp;charset="iso-8859-1"
<br>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<br>X-Priority: 3
<br>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
<br>X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200
<br>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200
<br>X-Rcpt-To: &lt;##############>
<br>X-DPOP: DPOP Version 2.7w
<br>X-UIDL: ##############
<br>Status: U
<p>Hello -
<p>Be sure when you are "renewing" you are on the current form. The current
<br>link is <A HREF="http://www.activeworlds.com/products/worlds.asp">http://www.activeworlds.com/products/worlds.asp</A>
<p><b>You may also send me your order and card information</b> or call
978-499-0222. I
<br>can not renew the world gratis. If you are mailing Tom already I would
<br>suggest you await an e-mail answer from him regarding this matter.
<p>Sincerely,
<p>Noelle Caterino
<br>Customer Service
<br>Activeworlds.com Inc.
<br>95 Parker St.
<br>Newburyport, MA 01950
<p>www.activeworlds.com</html>

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Oct 9, 2001, 1:43pm

So Chris, if a thief asks you to hand over your purse or have it ripped out of
your hands... that makes the wrong a right because you were given an option?
NO One should ever suggest a customer send credit card information via
e-mail! As for the double bill... AW fails to place a kill command in their
script which would easily prevent a double bill error! You know how much and
extra $200 overdraft can end up costing a user? Add up all the other check that
will bounce... $200 could easily become $500 at $25 per return fee. All very sad
events simply because a company is neglecting the protection of their customers.
THAT is why I pointed out the negligent request by Noelle to risk CC info by
e-mail. That shows AW does not care about your security. If they did, they would
never suggest you do such an absurd and riskful act! I am only asking that the
company begin to act responsibly!


[View Quote] > Responses within...
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Oct 3, 2003, 9:00am

Hello everyone,*

We have added new Freebie items, including a family of Sheet Ghosts just
in time for Halloween** You can see them and much more at
http://www.objectyard.com They can also be seen in the AW universe world
"ObjYard" & "ObjYard1"
EnJoY*

InSaNiTy
Heartfall.com

Oct 11, 2003, 5:29pm

I will have new skating sequences shortly. They have been on the list to do for
sometime. I will include a few of the classic skating moves :) I just need to
get done with a few others first...

InSaNiTy
www.heartfall.com
www.ObectYard.com


[View Quote] > I just created an Ice Skating pond in my Winter Wonderland area ... is there
> any way to have folks *slide in a figure 8 pattern* when on the ice (without
> a bot I mean)? Info is appreciated!!!
>
> Lady NightHawk
> Aeon world

Oct 12, 2003, 10:11am

Greetings to all...

Let me immediately put an end to the false gossip and libelous slandering
campaign attempt to be started here by Paul!

ALL files on our servers are legally licensed and abide by ALL US Copyright
laws. Paul's ignorance to the law.. and his failure to read the site's notice
are "HIS" shortcoming and NOT our wrong doing. His post is wrong, deliberate,
and malicious in content and purpose(s).

The site is SOLELY a gallery for our users to aide both them and their builders.

If they have purchased license to use those models and their textures then they
have a right for their users to view them! NO ONE has access to the files that
has not legally purchased license to use them. The files in the gallery are
pitifully reduced low resolution images made solely for online viewing by their
builders. Paul is out giving false information.. perhaps he should threaten AW
for their converting files to RAS format and providing those images cache
folders! Users on our services do not access private models unless they are the
purchasers of those items.

Now, in reality! My company has worked for many years to protect artists
rights and property. In our 12 years of being a Film and Entertainment company,
we have NEVER had a single loss of file, data, or license. We have spent
considerable time and effort to protect works. We have attempted to have AW
protect artist's property by ceasing it's placing files openly in cache. That
is far more than I can say about the person posting here today. We have even
been bashed in here for seeking then end of notes being given on how users could

convert ras to jpg and how to crack passwords. I have seen few others support
those protective attempts!

Paul is claiming that if any person buys from himself.. they are NOT allowed to
show the files to their world's builder's!!! Be cautious of that!!! Be
cautious that he might slander you and your guests if they visit your world
because they have his so called images in their cache!

License is sold for use of the models in the world purchased for. That is the
ONLY place that the licensed models ever get used! That has been true for many
years. Heartfall currently stores more than $30,000.00 of privately licensed
models for our user base. We have NEVER had a single loss of their protection.
Heartfall world hosting services prides itself in that data protection. We have
never had a claim that a purchased file was used by another world unlawfully. We

have exhausted all efforts to prevent that and thus far, successfully so :)

World owners who have purchased license have the right to have their user's
access galleries that allow them to see textures so they can apply create
texture commands within worlds to match decor. This is a part of the AW browser
function and has gone on since the inception of AW! We are NOT distributing
files to anyone! We are not offering file use to anyone who does not have the
legal license to use them!

People love to gossip and act jealous toward companies which go the extra mile
for their users. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com is a company founded by a
man of integrity who has received many praises by high society and government.
We have gone far and wide to help our users enjoy 3D! We host many cancer
patients, many handicapped users, many gatekeepers and peace keepers. People who

appreciate our services. The site referenced is a private client site. Anyone
accessing it as a client who is not, is doing so against law as a trespasser. It

is not an html public site. It records all client access and illegal access is
just that, "ILLEGAL" Unlike an http server... this is a "client server" Paul's

posting the address in this newsgroup is wrong and he publishes private address
without legal authorization to do so... therefore a direct violation of property

and copyright laws.
Though we are not naive... we understand that many user thrive going places they

do not belong. That is why we take every effort in protecting the data by
making only worthless copies of the images available.

There is nothing wrong with what we have done. If Paul is suggesting that if
you buy his models and NOT use a texture he sends you for create animate me in
world... or else he will attack you, then I would say run far away and run fast!

For the record... worldhosting.heartfall.com is doing everything to protect
artists and their work... If Paul or anyone expects a webmaster in charge of
over 30,000 texture images to know what he produces.. then we suggest that he at

least...
1. uniquely name his files.
2. legally file copyright with Washington,DC as required by law prior to any
publications so that the Library of Congress has a lawful copy of record.
3. notify his buyers that they cannot use the texture in any create texture
commands prior to purchasing.
4. contact Bill Gates in protest as microsoft allows for image sharing as it
places all images in cache and allows fast pop up icons each and every time you
view an image to "save as" within its browser.

Artists generate their income from the sale of their work. ALL items are safely
stored and legally used by our customers in their individual worlds. No illegal

use is permitted or even allowed.

If Paul and others suggest to you that you cannot have his items on a rented
path.. then he naively cuts himself off from the entire real world.. as I doubt
there are many people who actually OWN their own path servers like we do. Most
all rent space for their paths somewhere on the net. That is just one of the
problems of people bashing others in this newsgroup.. the fact that they are
ignorant to the facts, ignorant to the law, ignorant to the realities of the
internet.. and solely out to cause damage to a leading company. That clearly
shows their ill intents...!

Perhaps people should try speaking to one of their buyers and find out the FACTS

on how well their items are protected before slandering others here and posting
libel!

Now, that said... any designer who protests their images being made available
to their buyer's world builders... may submit a list of filenames to our
webmaster. Please note that all world owners will receive copies of all mail to
show them why their use is being cut off from them. Please send legal proof of
copyright ownership. We simply cannot delete a user's property solely on the
whim of a person claiming to own legal copyright. We are speaking of client
data. You may very well owe refunds to your buyer's if their data must be
destroyed at your request. You may also be liable for the value of their build
designs destroyed by your absurd request as well. We gladly abide by the laws...

and we simply ask that complainants do the same. But realize... it will hurt
your sales... as buyers will not wish to patronize you when you restrict use to
disallow their builders freedom to use the purchases the way AW designed the
software, within their builds.

I hope this puts an end to this ugly rumor and post. There is no need for
commentary by anyone as to their "opinions" If anyone wishes to clarify the
legality of this issue.. let's meet in a court of law. I am a U.S. Citizen and I

am opposed to "TERRORISTS" be them the ones with bombs or the "Cyber
Terrorists" who create havoc for good ordinary law abiding citizens on the net.

I would be happy to bring this issue into a court room and shut down this
illegal act of slandering people at will in this newsgroup. Let it be known,,
Paul never gave any opportunity to my company to answer his claims. In fact, he
never even submitted any proper claim or filename. He simply sent a telegram
ranting... He went right to make his post to cause us further damage..
continuing his campaign to damage and interfere with our business. History shows

full written proof of this act... That is very much... "evidence worthy" in a
court of law. The courts are here to "Protect" us.. so that people spreading
false stories will be punished for their acts... to cease the actions and
protect the honest. As well as AW.. Heartfall hosts over $2,000,000.00 of client

art... ALL that art is protect for the artists. Please cease your defamation
now... as you speak of what you know nothing about.

I wish you all well.. and fear not.. as an Artist myself... I would never give
forth a piece of art to another that was not lawfully obtained.

InSaNiTy
www.heartfall.com
worldhosting.heartfall.com
www.ObjectYard.com



[View Quote] > A note to users buying my models.
> If you are thinking of uploading models you buy from me to a Shared or
> Rented object path, such as Heartfall Productions rented object path,
> don't do it.
> My terms of sale do NOT allow my objects and textures to be used on an
> object path shared by other worlds owners and doing so is a violation of
> copyright by you the purchaser (if you know that the path is shared) and the
> Object Path owners/operators.
> This came about when last night Lady Murasaki told me she saw some of her
> textures on http://www.heartfall.org/wcoltxgals/default.aspx where they had
> no right to be so I looked and sure enough I saw some of my non-public
> domain textures on there also.
> I don't know how they got there but I expect them to be removed and I have
> also filed a complaint along with screen shots of their web page showing my
> textures and proof of my development of those textures with AWI regarding
> Heartfall's violation of copyright and EULA and I believe at least one other
> person is filing a complaint also.
>
> Paul

Oct 12, 2003, 3:30pm

Sad and morally deprived reply Andras... pertaining to your closing lines...
I would have expected you to have a higher level of thought process.
As for your theft and public announcement of the direct copyright infringement...
Karma... Being able to steal... does not make the theft ok...
As far as your comment "great stuff indeed" < Very fooish comment...
All of the images are so greatly reduced their merit as textures for 3D is nil.
But you have shown this... You have shown that you lack moral fiber... and you.. a competitive world host showing no respect to copyright. I certainly would have nothing
to do with a host that openly admits to stealing from the web. Hardly would host my private and purchased goods with an admitted thief. Now at least people see where your character is at and what it is.
So it is true... even from bad things can come good... We are all now better informed *S*

InSaNiTy
worldhosting.heartfall.com


[View Quote] > I don't want to go into details about the poster's garbage.
>
> One comment based on visiting his server:
>
> " Access to this site is limited to patron world owner use & their respective builders solely.
> Licensed use only.
> This site is protected by the Laws of the United States of Americans an/or it's Treaties with foreign Nations.
> Violators and/or trespassers will be prosecuted.
> This is not a public access html web site.
> If you have entered this server by mistake, please exit immediately."
>
> I guess the web site owner doesn't know what is the internet:)
> If a page accessible by a regular browser from the net - it is not restricted and anyone allowed to access it!
> If he wants to make the website PRIVATE then use the common protection technique. This silly note means nothing:) Everything on this site is public domain since it is not protected from the general public!
>
> I'm entered to this server by mistake but I won't obey to the "Leave immediately" order, since it is a public server. What is more - I made a full copy of this server on my machine:) - (geat stuff indeed!)
>
> --
> Andras
> "It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

Oct 12, 2003, 4:10pm

Point was noted... bad character, morally deficient...
Everyone should already know theft is possible... does not make it right,
nor of value... therefore no benefit to the betterment of anyone.
But I did learn something today about him from his remarks...
That knowledge IS a beneficial point for all to observe.
This is not about the issue posted... this is about the deliberate hate campaign
toward
one person... myself... from a select few...people who know nothing of me, never
met me,
never have done business with me. Those who have are very happy.
Sadly though... as this news group's records show... Hate is allowed...
I had thought they cleaned this place up... wished they had... after all...
it only kills AW more when users read here and are scared off by the bullies...
Hasn't that ever dawned on anyone? Many reasons why world owners leave...
The feeling their money is taken and then the company allows the bullies to
reign here,
and ignores them in their private worlds and pays attention only to these
bullies or AW world people... That is not a good recipe for the owners who
invest their money and wish to stay or feel welcomed. However.. if the
community showed that it steps up to stomp out abuses, here and in the universe.
If it were to ask world owners opinions, inform owners of updates... etc.. then
things could vastly improve with little effort.
I see no benefits from hate posts in this newsgroup... unless it is the downfall
of AW which is being sought...



[View Quote] > How do you know he atcually did anything. Perhaps he was just making a
> point?
>
> ~John
>
[View Quote]

Oct 12, 2003, 7:18pm

None of that happened Paul. Plus, your post was not about your license claims
which appear to vary. Your post clearly targeted my company's private galleries
which lawfully licensed users access to facilitate their world enjoyment using
the items they paid good money to have. You have now concerned many because they
are seeing how ugly your actions have been. You immediately posted our private
server address to this newsgroup to incite the hateful bashing which has
occurred ever since your post. Had that not been your intent you would not have
included they very proprietary link! Nor would you have jumped to conclusions
falsely. The site is a .org for one thing, not a .com for commerce. Secondly you
accuse users of improper use when in fact there has been absolutely none
whatsoever. On the phone you told me you were posting an apology. What I have
read that you posted was hardly that. NOW, let me tell the users, that YOU PAUL,
expect everyone in the real world to know brassp1.jpg is your's and your's to
demand used certain ways. That is absurd. Your file was not even professionally
prefixed uniquely for any filtering process to determine it was your's.
Please... do the right thing... admit you over reacted to something that was
never a problem! Had you e-mailed the webmaster properly giving filenames and
proof of your claim to ownership of copyright... they would have been removed,
even though that causes their licensee's hardships... But you failed to do
that... you jumped into a "news" group.. not with NEWS... but with an AGENDA for
affect... Please... honesty is a much better way to conduct life... Heartfall
Productions is a company that helps users 7 days a week, 365 days each year...
Your post was wrong to attack our user's private access site. From your post...
attacks and noted thefts have now occurred... is that a pleasing event for
your Sunday? It's not for mine or the many users... Not to mention your
attitude is that users who buy from you are thieves! Our customers have honor
and no desire whatsoever to use what they have not properly paid for. The site
clearly states the purpose of the galleries. Perhaps because your friends here
wallow in hate and libelous posts... you forget that there are HONEST users out
there...
I wish you the best Paul and i hope that you have learned something from this...
I hope that you and others out there learn to properly name files. It never
ceases to amaze me how people using a PC forget that computers are made to
automate tasks... you expect a mind reader to know brassp1.jpg must be used to
your specific terms.. you can use, he can't, she can, no, not upside down...
geez.. please follow LAW as a guideline.. don't corrupt it and make it as you
go.. that only lends for misunderstandings by users... If you "Allow" someone
to alter the file they buy from you.. that alteration becomes their new unique
copyright! Simply the law! That is why professional artists do not allow
alterations, unless the license specifically allows for them to do as they
wish... not as you discriminate to... Why do virtual users feel they can ignore
law and make up their own?

I wish people would clean up their acts! This hate filled newsgroup trashing
only leads to users being hurt and the entire program being placed into
financial and legal jeopardy. It certainly does NOT promote "COMMUNITY" for
which it is titled after.

For those who wish for honest service by hosts who care about making their life
fun... so they can avoid trash filled places like this and turn for help where
they know they can find help... Come see Heartfall and it's many happy world
owners. They can tell you the TRUTHS. We help people so they can EnJoY*

I hope this bashing campaign will end now...

By the way.. for those who love attacking my screen name... InSaNiTy is chosen
because it is simply "insane" that we offer so much in 3D for so very little...
Always driving to push 3d to new heights for further new enjoyable experiences.

InSaNiTy
worldhosting.heartfall.com



[View Quote] > You all misinterpreted the complaint.
> A purchaser of my model can use the models and textures in there world in
> any manner they choose, even to the extent of changing the textures on the
> models themselves.
> What the purchaser can not do is allow the models and textures to be shared
> by other worlds owners by (1) giving them the models or textures, (2)
> selling them the models or textures (without my permission), or (3)
> uploading to or allowing them to be uploaded to an Object Path that is
> shared by other world owners (without my permission).
> That is pretty clear and has always been my policy. If you don't agree with
> those terms then don't buy my models. Those Terms of User are more
> generous than that of many modelers around.
>
> Paul
>
[View Quote]

Oct 12, 2003, 7:42pm

Someone who admits he stole a full site and ignored all it's copyright and
usage
guidelines you say is moral? I am a person who saved so many on a daily basis
as a paramedic making my self accessible to strangers, you downgrade? You do
not even know me! I really question your thought process. Andras's own words
show his intent! Please show me his letters of appreciation from his
government officials. Mine are readily accessible. But then again... you are
Paul's co-hort are you not? What else should i have expected.

[View Quote] > Geeze are you ever wrong!!!
>
> Andras has more moral in his little finger than you have in your whole
> being!!! In fact, he has more than practically anyone has in their whole
> being!!!
>
[View Quote]

Oct 12, 2003, 8:26pm

So you hate people because they provide products to a user base which amounts to
90% of AW's incomes? Within worlds that are privately bought and paid for? Are
you some kind of freak? Or did GOD not create you NUDE at birth? Please do not
spout off some false doctrines... Torture devices? This is 3D... "virtual"
dear... like a cartoon... I have yet to see an avatar tortured. I guess in your
mind Steven Speilberg actually kills soldiers for his movies?
At least you have shown your TRUE intentions! You post because you HATE my
company because we will help ANYONE to have their fun in VIRTUAL reality. My
life experiences have shown me life and death so many times. I am wise enough to
respect that people are entitled to their fun in the privacy of their own
homes! If it makes them smile than that is a GOOD thing! There is enough pain
and sorrow in reality... Please show me what YOU have done for real life
society? I myself have done much and continue to do so! I help people... I
don't attack because of my personal beliefs like you are showing you do... AW's
guidelines? Does that include illegal gambling in bingo which you must pay to
play? Does that include teaching children that your idol admits to wrong doing
and ignoring law and property infringement? Please..... If a user wants to run
around in a nude comic book character form let them... if it makes them smile
and be happy... I'll make it for them! yes.. that is far better than seeing a
head blown into pieces from a shotgun... or wife who cut her husband to
pieces... So show me how I can further help people to avoid those types of
pains... I sure wouldn't force prudery onto them and then hand them the shells
:) I am still laughing at the AWI guidelines.... those must be as honorable as
the FREE citizenship's that came with world purchases which have been stolen
away from those worlds... or the choice of tourist access which also was
wrongfully stolen away from those same purchased worlds... Yes... ethics,
morals... Please let's get some into this place before it is closed down for
illegal acts such as the HATE CRIMEs perpetrated by a certain mob group
here...! Let's respect other's privacy... as the US government used to do for
people in their own homes before the jack boots started to dwindle away the
constitution. If you don't like nude avatars daphne.. then stay out of the
worlds who buy them... they are PRIVATE worlds! What part of word of private
confused you? Like the abortion to the CY Awards last year based on fears and
mobs... simply put... hold 2 CY's, a daytime G rated and then the majority R
rated at night... instead of trying to control private citizens who harm no
one... Guess you never thought that perhaps a person in a nude avatar is trying
to recreate what they lost by being paralyzed? Or some other disability... Not
your place to judge... not mine either... MY GOD placed me here to help... to
save life where I can... I have faithfully lived that to fruition... I do not
discriminate because of Race, Color, Religion or Personal Choices... That is
not my right... I simply HELP people... Hopefully some day you will get past
your fears and personal bigitries. I wish you the best.




[View Quote] > Yeah.. nude avatars which, are supposedly against AWI's guidlines, are some
> of the avatars you'd find on Heartfall... And let's not forget the torture
> devices that are probably on the Heartfall server too, for the Gorean's (and
> other's) use...Everyone get out their bank books and go buy some T&A!!!
> :o)
>
> There you go, Insanity!!! I just helped you sell more web space or avs and
> objects!!!
>
[View Quote]

Oct 12, 2003, 8:34pm

AHH a bit of honesty finally! You attack me without merits simply because you
harbor hatred within you for some of our customers... I guess you wrap up the
people who I just completed prayer sequences for as evil too huh? How about if
I told you the true life story of how I made Christ's body bleed in a film for
the largest Christian broadcast network in the world? Would you bash them too
simply because it is I and I help people you hate?

HATE is a BAD thing! Nothing disturbs me more than a person who claims to be
good but starts off with hatred which is sooo bad. If I recall, all are born
naked. I think you better castigate your GOD then for that... You obviously
feel you are above him and he wrong in his (her) decision to do that... Please
go out and enjoy some flowers blooming... enjoy their beauty... then look
closely... they are NUDE!!!! Nature did not force inhibitions down their
gullets. Mankind would have been better off had they not either! But then
again you might support the burning of babies flesh in Iraq as a just act! Even
though it was all based on lies! Me... I say it is wrong to starve and kill
babies... I say its wrong to harm people you don't know, like you have me...
simply because of your personal beliefs.

[View Quote] > Go blow your horn to someone that is more likely to believe you than I ever
> will be, Insanity.. :o)
>
> I do stick up for ppl that have actually shown me that they care about
> AWI... To me, you show that you don't really care for the spirit of AW
> since you host worlds like the ones slave owners like to create..
>
> Paul and Andras both help others daily... You are not the only one around
> that knows how to do good for others... I guess it's the choice of some
> of the ppl you decide to do good for that I disagree with...
>
[View Quote]

Oct 12, 2003, 9:08pm

Keep up the good work bit! You have done well and work very hard at it!
As do your team!

[View Quote] > Like the abortion to the CY Awards last year based on fears and
> R
>
> Did someone mentions Cys?:)
>
> FYI...the Cys are "F" rated for fun!:)
>
> I came up with my own world rating for the Cys actually...pretty cute eh?:)
>
> Anyways, the Cys guidelines are based on AWI's Guidelines listed at
> http://www.activeworlds.com/community/terms.asp
>
> We are a world residing in AW Universe and agree to thier terms.
>
> I have spoken to numerous Adult world owners and have been told they would
> appreciate it if the Cys didn't allow Adult rated worlds, as they don't want
> to be combating the "under aged users" that would be tempted to see what had
> won.
>
> I had also been told by some Adult world owners that are IRL parents that
> they would be concerned also if their children were tempted to adult worlds.
>
> Two things I would like to bring to light here.
>
> 1. Insanity, you and some of your world owners and builders make very
> beautiful things and are very deserving of a thousand Cys! I don't care what
> your preferences are adult material or not....ya'll are AW Masters at some
> things. (Note:not referring to Gor Masters:)
>
> 2. Daphne, I wish you were privvy to the concern of the Adult world owners
> and could respect them for sharing your identical concerns:)
>
> Well...that's all I have to say about that for now:)
>
> Hugggs;)
>
> Bit:)

Oct 13, 2003, 11:26am

Our site stating that will will not host X rated materials is correct. As=

written by law, we will not host any "X" rated materials. These are "X" r=
ated by
"LAW" meaning images and movies etc. A cartoon avatar showing natural ana=
tomy
resemblance or gestures in NOT X rated by any laws which we are aware of.=

People WAKE UP !!! People are dying today!!! The world is at WAR!!! Sto=
p this
hate bashing!!! Try being nice and helping your fellow man have safe fu=
n and
enjoyment.. put forth some effort to be good... stop your abusive ways!


[View Quote] > I must have missed that part; the man produce so much text that it is =
hard
> to keep up, however, I have a hard time beliving that this would be wha=
t is
> on the OP by default. I more like think this is an option for adultorie=
nted
> worlds?
>
> I personally do not care if the only avatar in the worlds I host would =
be a
> huge dick; it is the business of the worldowner. Since there is a x-rat=
ed
> option in the worldfeatures, I assume it is ok to have x-rated worlds; =
why
> else would AWI in the first place have an option for that ?
> We could of course argue the ratings until we die (what I think is x-ra=
ted,
> might not be that in someone elses opinon and vice verca etc etc)
>
> Drac
> bowen <ten.sardna at newob> kirjoitti
> viestiss=E4:3f8a32b8 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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> in.

Oct 13, 2003, 11:28am

First let me start off saying that I am outraged by the deliberate attacks and what
appear to be actual "hate crimes" against myself, my company and our patrons. A
false campaign of hate which is clear in the newsgroup has be waged against us for
over a year now.

The FACTUAL information is this. Our user texture galleries are PRIVATE. There is
clear notice that it is illegal for anyone to enter that ASP server without
permission. It is not a web html server but a private program system. Our world
owners clearly know what they have purchased and what they have not. This is a
courtesy to the world owners of the licensed items and their builders designed to
aide them in their use of the AW software. These people have purchased the rights to
use the items and textures in their worlds. I am quite sickened by the panic and
attacks I have received. No one has ever used one of your models on our systems
illegally ever! You and others know well that AW provides your textures in
everyone's cache! We do not offer out the images. We offer a gallery so that users
can observe names and therefore use the AW software the way it is meant! WE HELP
USERS! WE DO NOT HURT ANYONE!

I am sick of the jealousy and HATE! "RENTED PATH" is such a FALSE header. Please
pull your head out of the sand! 99.9% of users "RENT" their path space! In FACT...
100% of users are on "RENTED" services from their ISP's! Even the ISP's "Rent" the
bandwidth throughput from backbone providers. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com set
up the system years ago to allow users a chance to enjoy owning a world without the
hassles of learning to be a computer geek! We do this so that people can have
FUN!!! Not to be wrongfully attacked by people running amuck in panic and fear due
to their own ignorance of facts! Users pay less than 7 pennies per day to have
access to our huge and original path systems! ALL private models have been
protected for users and we have NEVER had a single loss of data! Our galleries are a
"PRIVATE" program server provided solely to our world owners who have lawfully
purchased the license to use the AW software and the models in their lawful
possession. I will no tolerate abuses against them! Realize that by your entering
the site you are deliberately and knowingly violating the law by entering a system
clearly posted as private and ordering you to exit! The system logs every single
hit to it. Your ISP is required by law to provide your personal information to us
should we request such. As with the lawsuits filed by and on behalf of music
companies against users of KAZAA, we may perhaps file lawsuits upon anyone entering
our ASP server unlawfully and using that illegal entry to harass our company and/or
our customers. We PROTECT the rights of our lawful users to the best of our
abilities! Their license purchases give them the rights to use their items as they
wish within their worlds!

Until you and other people make demands on AW to stop placing your images in open
cache, all images will be made available to aide the builders in their lawfully
creative ways. I say this because for us to be forced to harm our user base would
be discriminating and punishing them alone while you do knowingly allow all to
receive copies of all images into cache! I do not see the artists complaining to
the software company, AW, for allowing a cache image gallery on every computer!
Therefore you best cease harassing our company! We are doing nothing wrong,
unethical, illegal, or infringing upon copyright laws whatsoever! We are simply
aiding our lawful users their right to have access to the filenames they paid for!

NOW if people wish to start making claims then let me suggest a bit of intellectual
advice to the novices who feel they can create their own laws. 1. Become a
professional. 2. Learn how to uniquely prefix filenames so that computers can
filter. Too many ignorant people believing computers should be hand picked through.
They are "computers" they compute... they are automated systems. People are being
so "unrealistic" in their expectations its become absurd. 3. File by law a copyright
form and send each original image to the library of congress as required by law
prior to any publishing! Wake up and realize that posting to the web is an act of
"publication" 4. Seek legal advice and education about the law. Do not try and make
it up as you go. 5. Do not threaten unless you have legal grounds or you may find
your home and assets at risk quickly! If you demand that we remove the images you
best have used due diligence to demand that the software company not allow the "art"
gallery on every copy of their browser. When you create works KNOWING that your
images are for "USE" within worlds, do not cry when they are being displayed to
facilitate that "USE"

NOW, if you can show me how any law is being violated by our showing our users the
images that they paid to use so that they can lawfully use them. AND, you can
provide lawful proof that you have legally created the images using fully licensed
systems and software. AND, you can provide proof that the copyrights are indeed
actually your's and not a compilation of work or alteration of someone else's
work(s), THEN we will consider honoring your request which ultimately will harm the
users who have paid you to use them.

The WCOL Textures galleries are there for lawful users. We are not the first to have
galleries to facilitate our users. We will not be the last. We are not offering the
images to anyone!. We have spent considerable time and money to insure that ALL
property is protected. We have used our "BEST EFFORTS" to protect ALL artists works.

WE ask that you not be narrow minded in you thought process and that you NOT follow
the campaign of HATE and Discrimination so clearly set forth by the mob of a few!

You will find that you will NOT be able to show any evidence whatsoever that even
one single image has ever been wrongfully used. Unless deliberately done now, after
the fact, in an attempt to harm our company or our users.

Please people... AW is dying a fast death because of all the bickering and hateful
acts put forth by the user base populating and publishing their hate in these
newsgroups and amongst the software universe. Heartfall Productions has worked hard
for many years to make building easier for users. Many of whom have died of cancer,
but enjoyed our easy access to world ownership and building for their enjoyment in
their last days! We are here to help! We are here for 365 day immediate support! We
are here so that people can EnJoY* during a day an age when suffering is so great in
the world.

I ask that the people of this virtual place think... learn... and educate their
minds and open their hearts! I ask that they stop following mob rule... that they
think before they attack, or condemn out of ignorance and fear! You will not be
hurting me... you are simply hurting the users, grandmothers, handicap persons,
children, foreign country citizens, everyone of all walks of life... who came here
and paid their license fees to EnJoY. They do not deserve the abuses... They
deserve what they pay for!

If you have a gripe... complain to Bill Gates for making temp folders on the
software. For the immediate pop up "save as" icons over images. Complain to AW for
their ART cache. Complain to people like Andras who wrote in these news groups how
to convert RAS to JPG. If you LOOK and EDUCATE your minds and read.. you will see
historical record where I have fought against people posting how to steal. I was a
special guest speaker at the CY Awards a few years back.. my topic.. "Copyrights" on
the internet. How to protect your work and what you are NOT allowed to do. Yet most
of you steal an image, redo it and claim it is yours anyway.

I am not your enemy! I am a person who gives 100% of myself to others and have all
my life! I have worked hard to make AW a better place... fighting a loosing battle
too! Because of the few who lurk here in the newsgroups and around in worlds...
bashing and attacking and teaching people how to steal! I educate all our users on
how to be SAFE. How to PROTECT their property. How to have FUN and AVOID the Bad
People here that deliberately lurk to harm users. Every single world owner we
service can tell you that I have spent time with each, personally, giving them tips
on how to safely manage their worlds. I have spent considerable hours and days,
months with programmers like Roland seeking fixes to cure theft issues like the
open cache! I encouraged him to re-do the seqs methods so that they could be better
designed and protected. The designs abilities to seqs and re-writes are here now..
sadly I was informed that the cache protection was not authorized by the
leadership. So ASK AW to protect your work! It is their software that allows the
cache thefts!

NOW, That being said... IF designers wish us to block their "PROVEN" copyrighted
materials... and BLOCK their buyer's & respective builder's access to seeing the
image names... THEN, those designers MUST use unique prefixed filenames and submit
in writing, via U.S. Mail, a list along with a signed affidavit swearing to the fact
that they are the sole owner of legal copyright. Upon receipt of that signed
affidavit, we gladly remove any images they have claim to from the galleries and
place notice on the gallery site that all images from that designer are not
available at the designers demand, regardless of the impact that has to the
licensees' and their builders. That will allow ALL parties to be aware of the
reasons why their access has changed. That will also allow buyers to beware of whom
will cause their world building creative experiences to be restricted and/or
diminished. Personally I believe that is a mistake. I do not believe that buyers
would want to purchase from designers who try and RULE how they operate their
PRIVATELY owned, bought and paid for worlds. Heartfall hosts more than $30,000.00 of
privately owned licensed AW materials. We have proudly done so without a single loss
of that data for many years. Why designers are in a panic now based on a false
posting... and wish to harm their buying public is beyond me... Perhaps it is all
out of fear and rage created by a few mob leaders.. wishing to harm.. rather than
awaken to logic and reason.

ALL Affidavits must be mailed via U.S. Mail, signed and notarized. We require
mailing via the U.S. Postal service for the protection and laws provided for under
"mail fraud" guidelines. We hope that this will limited any such requests to only
legitimate claims and therefore reduce the risks to our users from being wrongfully
discriminated against. Discrimination is a very serious offense and act which
violates the individual freedoms or persons. We will use our best efforts to fight
discriminations of any kind which can harm any person. This is all meant to aide the
protection of actual copyright owners as well as the legal licensee's rights.

Any designer who wishes to have further discussion in this matter is welcome to
phone us directly. If they have limited financial resources and reside in the United
States they may contact us and provide a phone number to reach them at. I will
gladly phone them personally at my expense to help them better understand the
logistics, laws and reasons we provide such thorough care and protection as best we
can. Our contact information is clearly available, published on our web site at
http://www.heartfall.com

I would also like to WARN buyers to beware of purchasing from any web site that does
not clearly offer you adequate forms of contact such as: A:) mailing address B:)
phone numbers to contact the company you are about to do business with. Specially if
you are purchasing using a credit card. This is internet commerce safety -101. ALSO
beware of purchasing on the Internet, any produce that does not clearly state it's
license of use and fails to list it's sales and return policies. Protect yourself!
Be a wise and informed consumer. Demand professionalism in return for your monies!
ALL legit business will gladly provide you with this information in an easy to
locate page.

Let's try and make this virtual environment a better place for all! Let's band
together and rid ourselves of the HATE mongers, bigots, racists and cyber terrorists
that lurk around here! Let's show support to those working hard to protect user!
Let's NOT follow behind the mob of narrow minded hate!

I wish you all well... I sincerely hope that this has enlightened the readers and
done some good for the betterment of all.

Peace, health & healing....

Lars Wyka aka InSaNiTy
http://worldhosting.heartfall.com



[View Quote] > Greetings to all...
>
> Let me immediately put an end to the false gossip and libelous slandering
> campaign attempt to be started here by Paul!
>
> ALL files on our servers are legally licensed and abide by ALL US Copyright
> laws. Paul's ignorance to the law.. and his failure to read the site's notice
> are "HIS" shortcoming and NOT our wrong doing. His post is wrong, deliberate,
> and malicious in content and purpose(s).
>
> The site is SOLELY a gallery for our users to aide both them and their builders.
>
> If they have purchased license to use those models and their textures then they
> have a right for their users to view them! NO ONE has access to the files that
> has not legally purchased license to use them. The files in the gallery are
> pitifully reduced low resolution images made solely for online viewing by their
> builders. Paul is out giving false information.. perhaps he should threaten AW
> for their converting files to RAS format and providing those images cache
> folders! Users on our services do not access private models unless they are the
> purchasers of those items.
>
> Now, in reality! My company has worked for many years to protect artists
> rights and property. In our 12 years of being a Film and Entertainment company,
> we have NEVER had a single loss of file, data, or license. We have spent
> considerable time and effort to protect works. We have attempted to have AW
> protect artist's property by ceasing it's placing files openly in cache. That
> is far more than I can say about the person posting here today. We have even
> been bashed in here for seeking then end of notes being given on how users could
>
> convert ras to jpg and how to crack passwords. I have seen few others support
> those protective attempts!
>
> Paul is claiming that if any person buys from himself.. they are NOT allowed to
> show the files to their world's builder's!!! Be cautious of that!!! Be
> cautious that he might slander you and your guests if they visit your world
> because they have his so called images in their cache!
>
> License is sold for use of the models in the world purchased for. That is the
> ONLY place that the licensed models ever get used! That has been true for many
> years. Heartfall currently stores more than $30,000.00 of privately licensed
> models for our user base. We have NEVER had a single loss of their protection.
> Heartfall world hosting services prides itself in that data protection. We have
> never had a claim that a purchased file was used by another world unlawfully. We
>
> have exhausted all efforts to prevent that and thus far, successfully so :)
>
> World owners who have purchased license have the right to have their user's
> access galleries that allow them to see textures so they can apply create
> texture commands within worlds to match decor. This is a part of the AW browser
> function and has gone on since the inception of AW! We are NOT distributing
> files to anyone! We are not offering file use to anyone who does not have the
> legal license to use them!
>
> People love to gossip and act jealous toward companies which go the extra mile
> for their users. http://worldhosting.heartfall.com is a company founded by a
> man of integrity who has received many praises by high society and government.
> We have gone far and wide to help our users enjoy 3D! We host many cancer
> patients, many handicapped users, many gatekeepers and peace keepers. People who
>
> appreciate our services. The site referenced is a private client site. Anyone
> accessing it as a client who is not, is doing so against law as a trespasser. It
>
> is not an html public site. It records all client access and illegal access is
> just that, "ILLEGAL" Unlike an http server... this is a "client server" Paul's
>
> posting the address in this newsgroup is wrong and he publishes private address
> without legal authorization to do so... therefore a direct violation of property
>
> and copyright laws.
> Though we are not naive... we understand that many user thrive going places they
>
> do not belong. That is why we take every effort in protecting the data by
> making only worthless copies of the images available.
>
> There is nothing wrong with what we have done. If Paul is suggesting that if
> you buy his models and NOT use a texture he sends you for create animate me in
> world... or else he will attack you, then I would say run far away and run fast!
>
> For the record... worldhosting.heartfall.com is doing everything to protect
> artists and their work... If Paul or anyone expects a webmaster in charge of
> over 30,000 texture images to know what he produces.. then we suggest that he at
>
> least...
> 1. uniquely name his files.
> 2. legally file copyright with Washington,DC as required by law prior to any
> publications so that the Library of Congress has a lawful copy of record.
> 3. notify his buyers that they cannot use the texture in any create texture
> commands prior to purchasing.
> 4. contact Bill Gates in protest as microsoft allows for image sharing as it
> places all images in cache and allows fast pop up icons each and every time you
> view an image to "save as" within its browser.
>
> Artists generate their income from the sale of their work. ALL items are safely
> stored and legally used by our customers in their individual worlds. No illegal
>
> use is permitted or even allowed.
>
> If Paul and others suggest to you that you cannot have his items on a rented
> path.. then he naively cuts himself off from the entire real world.. as I doubt
> there are many people who actually OWN their own path servers like we do. Most
> all rent space for their paths somewhere on the net. That is just one of the
> problems of people bashing others in this newsgroup.. the fact that they are
> ignorant to the facts, ignorant to the law, ignorant to the realities of the
> internet.. and solely out to cause damage to a leading company. That clearly
> shows their ill intents...!
>
> Perhaps people should try speaking to one of their buyers and find out the FACTS
>
> on how well their items are protected before slandering others here and posting
> libel!
>
> Now, that said... any designer who protests their images being made available
> to their buyer's world builders... may submit a list of filenames to our
> webmaster. Please note that all world owners will receive copies of all mail to
> show them why their use is being cut off from them. Please send legal proof of
> copyright ownership. We simply cannot delete a user's property solely on the
> whim of a person claiming to own legal copyright. We are speaking of client
> data. You may very well owe refunds to your buyer's if their data must be
> destroyed at your request. You may also be liable for the value of their build
> designs destroyed by your absurd request as well. We gladly abide by the laws...
>
> and we simply ask that complainants do the same. But realize... it will hurt
> your sales... as buyers will not wish to patronize you when you restrict use to
> disallow their builders freedom to use the purchases the way AW designed the
> software, within their builds.
>
> I hope this puts an end to this ugly rumor and post. There is no need for
> commentary by anyone as to their "opinions" If anyone wishes to clarify the
> legality of this issue.. let's meet in a court of law. I am a U.S. Citizen and I
>
> am opposed to "TERRORISTS" be them the ones with bombs or the "Cyber
> Terrorists" who create havoc for good ordinary law abiding citizens on the net.
>
> I would be happy to bring this issue into a court room and shut down this
> illegal act of slandering people at will in this newsgroup. Let it be known,,
> Paul never gave any opportunity to my company to answer his claims. In fact, he
> never even submitted any proper claim or filename. He simply sent a telegram
> ranting... He went right to make his post to cause us further damage..
> continuing his campaign to damage and interfere with our business. History shows
>
> full written proof of this act... That is very much... "evidence worthy" in a
> court of law. The courts are here to "Protect" us.. so that people spreading
> false stories will be punished for their acts... to cease the actions and
> protect the honest. As well as AW.. Heartfall hosts over $2,000,000.00 of client
>
> art... ALL that art is protect for the artists. Please cease your defamation
> now... as you speak of what you know nothing about.
>
> I wish you all well.. and fear not.. as an Artist myself... I would never give
> forth a piece of art to another that was not lawfully obtained.
>
> InSaNiTy
> www.heartfall.com
> worldhosting.heartfall.com
> www.ObjectYard.com
>
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Oct 13, 2003, 12:35pm

LOL I guess you wanted to prove in type that you would and do!
Try some exlax... might help clear some things up for you... use only as
recommended.. see you Doctor if you suffer any medical conditions first :)

[View Quote] > Oh, please... Spare me the details of your sickness...
>
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Oct 13, 2003, 12:45pm

You fail to be aware of U.S. law. Already proven last month that ISP's must hand over the
requested information for the court filings. Each lawsuit filed last month against the
users of Kazaa in North Texas was in the amount of $250,000.00 Check your local news
station for the copy if you missed it. As for foreign countries... I think the U.S. is
showing the world it has no limits in reaching out to defend American's rights. As for
copyrights.. It is a U.S. Laws which is adopted throughout treaties through all free
nations. Granted there are always violators. That is why lawyers graduate every day...
U.S. Law is simple to find... just go to any library and read up on it. As for ignorance
of the law. That is never a defense. Will those suits be dropped? Possibly so... but if
you are a home owner.. defending your assets against a large suit is costly no matter
what. Wisdom dictates not to steal... being wise is not a requirement... Fines and
imprisonment are deterrents however.

[View Quote] > The system logs every single hit to it. Your ISP is required by law to
> provide your personal information to us should we request such.
> <<<
>
> Sorry, but wrong again: in almost all countries, only a court order can
> do that - and a court order will only be issued when there is ample
> proof for any violation (in many countries, simple log entries alone are
> *not* considered to proof anything). Not to speak that a serious
> offender would use a mixer/proxy anyway.
>
> As with the lawsuits filed by and on behalf of music companies against
> users of KAZAA, we may perhaps file lawsuits upon anyone entering our
> ASP server unlawfully and using that illegal entry to harass our company
> and/or our customers.
> <<<
>
> And after that, you declare them terrorists and send airplanes? :-) BTW,
> I am sorry to burst your bubble here, but to pursue any copyright
> violation, you must be in possession of at least the circulation rights.
> Next, simply entering an unprotected website without inflicting damage
> does not constitute any crime or even violation in most countries in the
> world (copying material does not inflict any damage per se - only for
> the holder of the circulation rights).
>
> What RIAA is doing is a different pair of shoes (and has a different
> underlying intention) - and it is more than unlikely that they will
> succeed in the medium and long term anyway.
>
> Also, what you write about images in a cache is almost nonsense, since
> all images used in the AW program are forehand *publicly* accessible
> from a website, in fact, they MUST be publicly accessible or they would
> not work at all. This how the system works and everybody who uses the AW
> program and is aware of that (that it is not *possible* to protect them
> and that they *must* be publicly accessible). And this goes double to
> artists who will know very well how the system works.
> The same is, btw, true for sequences and sounds, for which the system,
> in the way it is engineered, does not provide any protection at all and
> have, thus, to be considered publicly accessible too.
>
> File by law a copyright form and send each original image to the library
> of congress as required by law prior to any publishing!
> <<<
>
> Nonsense - see my previous post.
>
> How to have FUN
> <<<
>
> YES! We come closer to the point of everything - FUN is the key here for
> by far the most people, not commercialism. It should also be realized
> that AW in its current implementation is widely NOT MEANT and generally
> NOT SUITED to make money by contributing artwork. Nevertheless it can
> work, amongst understandeable people who are willing to reward a good
> work, but these conditions cannot be considered to be the pre-condition.
> As I have written before, striking with a law club will not help at all,
> not because of the uncertain legal situation and not because of the
> multinational nature.
>
> But, what I am mainly wondering when reading these posts here is why
> people constantly have to assure the others how lawful they are
> themselves, how meritful and how successful in their commercial ventures
> and how bad the others are, how unlawful, how bad, how unethical and
> what else there is - and this seems to be what the newsgroup is for (or
> has become?).
>
> As if the community of AW has nothing else to worry about, as if the
> people who donate time and money to the community would not have other
> objectives, and as if the constant struggle about whose sand tower is
> the tallest (there is probably even a world "SandGor" who deals with
> this topic...) was the most important thing in the world that can be
> discussed here.
>
> Everybody is whining that the AW community is detoriating, yet almost
> everybody gladly goes the extra mile to hit another member. What about
> concentrating all powers to induce improvement, to change things and
> make them better? And THEN, AFTER that is achieved, there will be a lake
> big and vital enough that everybody can catch all the fish he wants even
> without picking on the "competition" or "dear neighbour".
>
> But as I see it, quite a few people are not able or willing to think or
> act beyond the next door neighbour and immediately engage in close range
> combat whenever another person comes into view.
>
> I think it is a shame, and sadly, there is a lot of truth in the words
> of another group member who claimed that the threads here do have an
> extraordinary entertainment value.
>
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Oct 13, 2003, 4:18pm

I was not disagreeing with you Drac,,, was more a post clarifying our mea=
ning of
not hosting X rated :) I appreciate your stable thought process and sta=
nding
for right :)


[View Quote] > Hey hey ! I never said anything like that LOL
> I more less said the same as you; that I do not consider a nude avatar
> x-rated etc... maybe you answered the wrong person?
>
> Drac
> insanity <nospam at privacy.com> kirjoitti
> viestiss=E4:3F8AA50F.F74D5913 at privacy.com...
> Our site stating that will will not host X rated materials is correct. =
As
> written by law, we will not host any "X" rated materials. These are "X"=

> rated by
> "LAW" meaning images and movies etc. A cartoon avatar showing natural
> anatomy
> resemblance or gestures in NOT X rated by any laws which we are aware o=
f.
> People WAKE UP !!! People are dying today!!! The world is at WAR!!! S=
top
> this
> hate bashing!!! Try being nice and helping your fellow man have safe =
fun
> and
> enjoyment.. put forth some effort to be good... stop your abusive ways!=

>
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Oct 13, 2003, 4:21pm

No, they won't put you in jail.. they'll suck you down the drain :)

[View Quote] > insanity <nospam at privacy.com> kirjoitti
> viestiss=E4:3F8AB79B.684BD99C at privacy.com...
s
> must hand over the
month
> against the
your
> local news
I
> think the U.S. is
's
> rights. As for
> through all free
uate
> every day...
t. As
> for ignorance
sibly
> so... but if
> costly no matter
=2E..
> Fines and
> Well, all people do not live in a country control of citizens, brainwas=
hing
> and corruption is the main thing the goverment do.
> Americans would not even recognize freedom if it hit them in the face.
>
> Sure, U.S law is just sooo great. A murderer can get away on a technica=
l
> detail, if the lawyer is smart enough. The law in USA is not so much a=
bout
> justice anymore, it is about winning or loosing. It also about who has
> money, how else can one explain that most people in deathrows are black=
less
> wealthy?
> Lawyers graduate each days because people have started to sue eachother=
in
> hope of easy money. I burned myself on your coffee, I demand 1 million
> dollars. I tried to dry my cat in the microwave owen and it died, I dem=
and 1
> million dollars. I stuck my hand under lawnmower, now it is gone, I dem=
and 1
> million dollars.
> All this stupidity has spred out to Europe now also, if you buy a chain=
saw,
> you get a 300 pages manual with 2 pages of how to start and use it, and=
298
> pages of what not to do with it. It has stickers all over it "do not ea=
t "
> "do not sit on it" " do not keep it on your head" etc
>
> What comes to the music indistry, and their crusades against people, it=
is
> an example on how someone with money can do anything they wish.
> I was a member in nonagsplus.com , there was a small "community" sharin=
g and
> talking music. They were forced to remove the MP3 because of this crusa=
de.
> What do the music industry win with this? Nothing, absolutely nothing. =
There
> was a lot of music it is very hard or impossible to find in music shops=
=2E
> There was also newer music. I sometimes downloaded a few MP3s and if I =
liked
> the band much , I bought the CD; so MP3s actually made me buy more Cds =
not
> less. No way I am going to a music shop and randomly pick out some CDs =
that
> I have never heard of.
>
> I bet next thing will be singing in the shower; soon neigbours will rep=
ort
> you to the musiccops, and if you have not paid the fees for the songs y=
ou
> have sung, you will do time in jail
>
> Drac

Oct 13, 2003, 4:29pm

"Hump" is not X rated. People move like that and much more suggestively on
dance floors in public rooms all the time. They are never arrested for being X
rated ever. Of course there were the prudes who would not allow Elvis to be
viewed from the waist down on Ed Sullivan in the 60's. I would hope we had
evolved beyond that. And if the actual "hump" is X rated and illegal.. than
how the heck did your butt get conceived? As for Laws.. The software and my
company are in the U.S. of A. Therefore U.S. Law is recited. I have no
interest in knowing foreign laws of lessor standard. Taking what is not yours
and you know is another's is wrong in any language, anywhere... unless you own
an army... then they call it victory.


[View Quote] > So you are saying that the opinions are worthless because they are Bowens?
> You don't know everything you know... I would say that Bowen is right. In
> fact, "Hump" would count as XXX rated.
>
> --
> -.Duo. (342836)

Oct 14, 2003, 10:39pm

You deleted all posts defending my name but you are allowing the thread
from Paul to continue as he just posted again at 6:27 PM RE: Copyright
Violation? Please inform the paying customers how saying positive
things about me is against the charter why negatives are allowed.

Oct 14, 2003, 10:59pm

I sincerely hope that this link will help educate people as well as put
an end to the mistaken interpretations made within newsgroups.

http://www.loc.gov/copyright/

Nothing better than going to the source for your knowledge*


Peace, health & healing to all...

InSaNiTy
http://worldhosting.heartfall.com
http://www.ObjectYard.com

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