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Sep 21, 2002, 9:53am

one more

http://www.wse.jhu.edu/archive/alumni/news11-2/scholarships.html


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Sep 22, 2002, 1:46am

As a relative newbie to this forum, but a participant in quite a number of
other forums, I'm wondering why it is so difficult in here for people to
tolerate the opinions of others, even when they are expressed in polite
terms. I can't say it's the first time I've seen this sort of thing, but in
my experience in other forums, where you have a large number of bright,
talented people, as here in the AW community, there is usually more
tolerance for differences.

A number of people have told me they wouldn't dare to post their opinions in
here for fear of the flames. An inability to freely speak thwarts
discussions from which the group could benefit.

I post this in all sincerity (and sure hope I won't get flamed for offering
my observation, and asking about it).

Could some of the 'old timers' offer me some insight on this? And is there a
certain way in which it's sort of expected that opinions be offered that is
tolerated better than other ways?

Thanks -
Kerstin
(formerly ambivalent)

Sep 22, 2002, 2:01am

i wasn't really talking about posts with ludicrous ideas in them. thinking
more of the ones that are straightforward, but the person just has a
different viewpoint.

and thanks for the offer of protection. * runs and hides behind bowen *



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Sep 22, 2002, 4:17am

wise words, lioness.

thanks :)

Sep 22, 2002, 5:36am

i didn't think about that, ananas, but that probably does have something to
do with it. in the other newsgroups i belong to, very few people associate
with each other outside of posts to the NG, so that kind of lends validity
to what you say.

interesting point.




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Sep 23, 2002, 1:26am

I just wanted to thank everyone who has taken the time to respond. Your
thoughtful opinions, advice, and cautions are well taken, and very much
appreciated. Thank you for sharing them. I think there are wise words for
most of us in these posts, and I know I am going to make a sincere effort to
heed them.

Thank you again -
Kerstin


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Sep 22, 2002, 2:10pm

I have just seen the most incredibly adorable av I have ever seen, and I am
a real av lover. This one was just finished by Sonja. It's in Avason, and
called 'babygirl' in the second half of the av list. I have never seen
anything like it. Well worth a peek.

Oh, if you've already seen Sonja's existing baby avs, this is not like
them -- this one is different and very, very special. :)

thanks -
Kerstin

Sep 24, 2002, 9:00am

awesome job, pineriver! i've tried to describe AW to people at work, and
some just can't envision it. i'm gonna show your video to them today.

what kind of software do you use to make something like that?

Kerstin

Sep 27, 2002, 9:39am

* sigh *

Kerstin


[View Quote] > ...would you just shut up Linn?

> Maybe you should do your reasearch, Ironhead...
>

> Anyone up for sacrificing Linn to get ol' Eep back? *raises hand*

> --
> - Syntax -
> http://www.swcity.net
> http://forum.swcity.net
>
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Sep 27, 2002, 9:40am

* sigh *

Kerstin

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Sep 27, 2002, 11:13am

Linn, goober is right. The Cy Awards have nothing to do with the community,
or with Active Worlds as a whole. It is a private awards program, started
by, and run by a few people.

I made the same mistake in thinking that this program was at a community or
Active Worlds level. It's not. The 'Cy means Community' slogan they use
apparantly refers only to the fact that they, as goober points out, allow
the community to vote. Other than that, it has nothing to do with the
community as a whole that I can see.

Goob is right -- they are free to make up any rules they wish, no matter how
crazy. The same as you and I, Linn, could start our own little private
awards program tomorrow, and we could make up any rules we want.

Usually though, with programs like this, if people don't like the way it is,
they can just choose not to participate. In this case, what's odd is that
when you tell them you don't like it and you don't want to participate, they
force you to. (People who attempt to withdraw are told they are not
"allowed" to. Go look at all the signs for all the people who have
withdrawn still up in the new voting center.)

Finally, what really sums it up is goob's final statement about people
getting a taste of power. The people who run this awards program have come
to believe that they wield significant power. When pleaded with to be a bit
more open minded and open up the program so that it is more for the
community, they feel threatened because they fear the loss of what they see
as their power.

The best thing to do at this point, for the people who want an awards
program that is fair, equitable, for the community, and recognizes talent,
instead of just being some odd sort of popularity contest, is to do what the
Cy group has done -- start another awards program that *is* geared toward
the community and *does* recognize talent. Anyone and everyone is free to
do so.

This is my last post on the topic of the Cy awards.

Kerstin

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