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May 31, 2002, 9:13pm

Thanks for all your help! Kellie from AW techsupport suggested I download
the file from the webpage and try again--I did and it still shut me out!

I looked to see if I had AW3.2 somewhere, but I fouind I only had 2.2 and
3.1. Went to the AW website and found that they had only 3.3 listed under
downloads. Any more suggestions??

Hopefully--fingers crossed--somebody somewhere will come up with the
solution within the next few days. I did send my install log to Kellie,
btw. She's quite a gal!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka barbarae



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May 31, 2002, 9:40pm

Thanks so much! I found 3.2 in a roundabout way on the website. I then
tried to load it over 3.3, but still had problems. Just did a clean
install.....AND NOW I'M BACK!!!!!!!

Come visit me in Amberlin some time..and we'll sit around the campfire
roasting marshmallows!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae



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Jun 1, 2002, 7:49am

Hi everybody!

Well the problem of 3.3 is solved! My host, Belfalest, had 9 9 9 do a
debugging of my files. It turned out there were 2 lines in my avatars.zip
that had to be changed (I have yet to hear which ones they were.) But,
anyway, I tried installing 3.3 and it went off without a hitch!!!

Again, thanks to everybody who have been kind enough to help me with this
mess!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

May 31, 2002, 4:30pm

ANd what is Camp Highlander? A virtual camp for AW members or a real life
one for kids??
--Barbara of Amberlin

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Jun 1, 2002, 5:53pm

I think I see what you mean. I just took a look at the sit seq--it's awful!
The av just stands there and raises her legs up--she doesn't move down to
ground or seat and actually sit!! I do hope they fix that.

But I did find one sequence that seems to be acutually better! In Relax, my
av will actually lie down on her side with her arm stretched all the way
along ground and with her head resting on her arm!! She actually looks like
she's resting! Before they would just lean sideways on one arm and stay in
a slightly reclined sitting position.

As for the walk, I'm really sad about that. It still is a good one, but
there's something that's left out. I was originally attracted to Ling and
the others in her group, because they always looked self-assured walking
about!!! But now.....it's just walking.

BTW, how do you make sequences? Are they difficult to do?

Regards,
Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

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Jun 3, 2002, 7:31pm

I just realized that all the sequences I chose to have listed on buttons
aren't working at all!! Especially all the avatars from AW!!! Walking has
no motion whatsoever--you're just pushing them around. Legs aren't
moving--not to even mention the arms. The waiting seq's seem to be working
in some, but that's about all!

Ananas--I've been meaning to tell you, I have all your avatars (except for
the Laser) on my Avatar List here in Amberlin. Anyway, some of yours are
showing a few of the sequences. Here are a few: (You're welcome to come and
check them out.)
Hopper--hops, waves, dances, and punches
ElToro ( a fav)--does move his legs when walking -- but not in that adorable
prancing up and down

Oh yes, DNDroid does walk, nothing else. (I know--it isn't Ananas') Anyway
it's very disheartening. I purchased Insanity's bird set which arrived just
all this began. Not all are working. The dove doesn't have any of the
satin texture. And I really bought that set for the dove for my bf. And to
think I almost purchased a flying Pegasus/unicorn with rider the night
before! Now they do nothing!!

Come on AW!!! If something is broke, fix it! If the new version isn't
working, bring back the old! How about going back to the previous animation
engine which gave us such adorable motions. I used to think Ling walked with
such reassurance and self-confidence! After the switch, they just walked!
Now, they're all just a dumb bunch of pixels to push around the screen.
Very disappointing!!!

Ananas--please do stop by Amberlin some time. I would love to meet the
creator of such creations you have made!

Warm regards,
Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

Jun 3, 2002, 7:55pm

Alright--my apologies to everybody including AW!!

I just went over to AWGate and the seq's were working over there. At least
Ling moved her legs and arms!

And yes, my seq's were working--even after the upgrade to 3.3--at least
better than now. So now I'm beginning to think the trouble in Amberlin lies
somewhere in my own files or my world Help!!!!

I just dumped my cache and rebooted--still no seq's!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

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Jun 3, 2002, 9:40pm

Thanks Paul for the suggestion! But I had already done that --and
alas--twas all the same! Very disheartening! So you want to know what I've
done (at least for now?)???

I'VE GONE BACK TO 3.2!!!!! And everything works fine!

Oh, before I did that, I checked and discovered that some of the walk seqs
that were not working in 3.3 were qwalkf, qwalkf2, and buwalk . But
barbra01,swalk, qwalkm, shaub01 did work in 3.3
Is that info helpful?

Oh yes, the texture of the dove still isn't correct either --in 3.2 or 3.3!

Frustrated,
Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae




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Jun 3, 2002, 9:44pm

Oh yes, one more thing. The up and down motion still seems to be there
pretty much in 3.2 At least when an av sits, she/he SITS!!! She actually
sits DOWN on the floor now. And Ling is walkng like she used to!!

Since I'm using 3.2 browser does that mean I'm also using the older
animation engine? Or is that the province of the server? Amberlin does
have the 3.3 server running, btw!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae


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Jun 4, 2002, 1:25pm

Hi All!!

Boy, do I feel stupid!! Duh!!!!

I went into Amberlin a little while ago and finally noticed my Avatar menu
looked wrong. I had category titles, but none were showing! Now this was
AW 3.2 still! But the av's were working!

I finally went back into a copy of my avatar.dat and saw that I had put
stars (*) at the beginning and end of each title to make them more
distinctive. Finally a bell started to ring in my head!!!!

I hurriedly went to Insanity's tutorial on Avatar.dat, and sure enough,
those asterisks weren't allowed! Were they the culprits that maimed all my
avatars in 3.3???

Well, I went back into my Avatar.Dat and deleted all those stars! Logged
back into AW3.2 (having dumped my cache). Sure enough, all those category
titles were showing now!!

Next, I switched back to 3.3, dumped what cache was there, and logged back
in. The category titles were there. And more to the point, MY SEQUENCES
WERE WORKING!!!!!

Yes, some still aren't working as well as in 3.2. The sit isn't going down,
etc. but in relax she stretches out on her side with her head in her arm.
I'm satisfied--at least for now! *Sigh*!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

Jun 5, 2002, 7:19pm

So far as I can remember or tell, when you go back to 3.2, the contact list
will work. Of course you would have to bring it up to date. I didn't try
copying the contact list from 3.3 to 3.2 though.

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

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Jun 4, 2002, 2:54pm

Hi!

Just in time! I have TS4.3 on my drive with an upgrade to 5.1 waiting in
the wings. I have really yet to learn it, but have been hoping to "any day
now"!!

I also have Frank Rivera's book on TS4. Do you recommend I learn TS4 first
then upgrade to my 5.1 or should I go ahead and upgrade to 5.1 and still do
your tutorials for TS4 and Rivera's TS4??

I need to go back and review Grover's and Heinrikg's tutorials also.

What do you suggest I do?? Thanks for any suggestions and am looking
forward to your tutorials!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae


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Jun 5, 2002, 12:38am

Do you mean Murasaki's Jade??? If so, it's marvelous! Alright you guys
have convinced me. For the time being at least, I'll stick with 4.3! (Gosh
darn! Was looking forward to those realistic looking faces, too!)

Barbara


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Jun 8, 2002, 2:26am

Hey you guys--go easy on me! besides TS 4.3, I also have the upgrade to
5.1 Yes, I have Rivera's book on TS4 and Robbie has done the tutorial for
4.x. So now what do I do?? Which version would be easiest to learn? Am I
wrong or do I get the impression that 5.1 and 5.2 are a bear to learn?
Robbie's tutorials seem to be a great way to get started. So, what shall I
do??

Thx.
Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae


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Jun 7, 2002, 6:48am

Alright, these are really not my very first impressions of 3.3, if you
consider the posts I've written about the troubles with the seq's. But here
are a few other things I'd like to mention:

I think, for me, so far, the one feature I like the best is the new ability
to move or rotate an object along all three axis on the fly! I've been
using this feature quite a bit in the last few days in my most recent build!
Aside from rearranging rocks, and getting them at odd angles, it's no
longer necessary to figure out or look up which floor goes with which wall!
If you put up a panel or wall, and want to have a matching floor, all you
have to do is just flip that panel or wall to the horizontal, and you've got
a match! (Or vice versa, of course) Oh yes, something else I'll have to
check out --you know how the vertical panel won't always match the
floor --even with the same texture? Well, I think, now you'll be able to
get a perfect match!! (Correct me if I'm wrong, please!)

I've played around a little with the Terrain a little. I've even tried to
develop a grassy texture similar to the one I use in my regular ground
object --and have come close. I think eventually this feature will
eventually change the face of AW as we know it! I actually felt the power
of creation as I lifted up hills and created valleys!!!

But, alas, I don't think I'll be using it regularly (now don't hold me to
this) for awhile! I found that (and should have remembered) with the
Terrain on, the illusion of unlimited ground beyond the boundary of My
Amberlin was gone! And even if I cant' walk out there, it still gives me
the illusion of wide open spaces!! So, at least for the present, until
AWCom let's us have that illusion back with the Terrain, I may not use it
regularly. Or am I wrong, is it impossible to have those "Lands Beyond The
Boundaries" with the Terrain??? If so, then it's a sad compromise. I'll
have to think some more on this one.

Oh, yes, I just tried out the Coronas--and have seen them used already in va
rious places. Now, I can definitely see the possibilities with these lovely
creations! But you know what, I've been seeing "coronas" for years while
outside at night--with my astigmatism!! :)) But not as varied or beautiful
as these may be.

I believe that once the bugs that have crippled our seq's have been taken
care of, we will enjoy our avatars even more! I'm also looking forward to
the "skinned avatars" that I've been hearing about.

Well, that's about it for now. The end of June will be six months since
I've immigrated from The Palace (still am a member, still have a palace). I
haven't regretted for one second coming back to AW! It has improved greatly
over the 5 or 6 years while I was gone! I do hope that whatever troubles
there may be, that ActiveWorlds will survive and continue to grow for years
to come!! I've made some new friends, renewed old, and now in the process
of creating a new home for myself and my friends here in AW.

One woman's thoughts...

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

Jun 8, 2002, 2:20am

How can you have both on? When I've had both on, my ground shimmers like
when you have 2 or more pieces overlapping! brrrrr... What's your trick?

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae


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Jun 8, 2002, 6:00am

But how do you actually lower your ground object? There's nothing in
Features about it, and I'm at a complete loss as to how to do it! (Now to
try to find that grass I want so badly!)

Thanks to you all!
Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

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Jun 8, 2002, 6:37am

Excuse me again---are you talking about lowering the entire ground
object--worldwide--at the same time? If so, how?

Barbara of Amberlin

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Jun 8, 2002, 10:53am

Help! Does anybody know of a model of a grand piano that I may have to use
in Amberlin. I did find one in AASwamp's list, but it had no texturing. (I
couldn't find the texture in the rwx). It's just a plain grey. And I know
I've seen others here and there at one time.

Thanks in advance.

Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

Jun 11, 2002, 3:43am

> Barbarae - Another recent addition to the NG crowd, this one made an
> impact by somehow managing to run into every single problem known to
> man. And yet, she's still here...

I am indeed honored to be included in such an elite group!!

Oh, by the way, while I'm at it: Thanks to all who sent me info about grand
pianos! What an embarassment of riches! I've finally made my selection
which you now can see in my gazebo in the NW corner of Amberlin!
(Hopefully Peter, the one whom this is supposed to be a surprise for, will
not read this.) Beware there's now a large download of an mp3 there --about
800-900KB for a very special piece of music. (Thanks to Micail who made
the entire Adagio5 into a mp3 for me!)

Oh, yes, I've just made up a new smiley for myself--hope you like it and
will have fun analying it:

B-)

Regards,
Barbara of Amberlin
aka Barbarae

Jun 19, 2002, 1:31pm

I just got 418, and the seq's seem to be much better on the whole. And the
wall came tumbling down! Yes, we now can walk once again out beyond our
world's boundaries. Maybe it's only psychological, but it's nice!! Thank
you AWcom!!

Barbara of Amberlin
aka barbarae

Jun 19, 2002, 8:21pm

Just got 419--What's new with this version? Saw something about messages go
by as it downloaded, but have yet to find anything new since 418 this
morning.

Barbara of Amberlin

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