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Discrimination towards the Gor culture (Community)
Discrimination towards the Gor culture // Community
Dec 17, 2000, 4:21pm
I broke my own word and said I wouldn't speak anymore of it.
My apologies. I will refrain.
-Locodarwin
[View Quote]"locodarwin" <locodarwin at goreanideals.net> wrote in message
news:3a3d03e0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> 1) Christians are the majority? You're speaking of the United States,
> correct? Because in the world Christians are hardly the majority. Even
in
> the United States....I'm not so sure Christians are the majority anymore.
>
> 2) Christians kept slaves - or did you not notice the large number of
> African Americans here in the States? And do you think it was
Christianity
> that abolished the kind of slavery that existed here? I would be
interested
> in hearing your answer - knowing the answer THOROUGHLY myself. Try not to
> sound too naive when you answer this one.
>
> 3) You stated: "Morally we believe slavery is wrong" (edited to correct
> typos). Well, morality is not a constant, my friend. I am sure there are
> plenty of things YOU do that many would consider morally wrong.
>
> 4) You stated: "Christianity is based on a work of fiction." That's
> funny - I think the vast majority of Christians would disagree.
>
> 5) You seem to be equating Gor with religion. That's yet another
> misconception that I tire of having to counter.
>
> 6) "If slavery was a natural occuring thing, then all other animals on
the
> planet would do it." You must be asleep or something - most mammals,
> especially primates, are MUCH more brutal when it comes to capturing and
> "enslaving" other hapless members of the species. I would refer you to
the
> whole baboon social system before you start to sound uneducated. The
> difference? The Gorean lifestyle is based on consent. Try that in other
> areas of the animal kingdom.
>
> 7) "I cant quote what Goreans believe cause i havent read up on it." I
can
> see that. Yet you see fit to judge it before you even study it. I wonder
> if you do that with everything else....
>
> 8) "But right or wrong... I dont like it." Now there's something you
said
> that makes sense. Right or wrong, nobody HAS to like it. Good thing for
> freedom of speech, eh? In some other countries, you might not even have
the
> right to present your disagreements in public.
>
> 9) "and If I believe it, you all should too." I assume this is sarcasm.
I
> would not like to believe it isn't.
>
> The kind of slavery Goreans practice in real life is not the same stuff
that
> existed in the history of the United States. Again, I point out that it
is
> based on consent. It is not cruel and uncaring. It is a kind of
> relationship that is based on trust, and the natural differences between
> dominant people and submissive people. And it is very natural - if you
> study your history. Perhaps it is the word "slavery" that you can't get
> past - because I admit on the surface it doesn't sound right. However,
> slavery was always an institution - and we'd probably still have legal
> non-consent slavery in the states if we had the same sort of economic
> structure that existed before the civil war.
>
> -Locodarwin
>
>
> "zero" <dmonix at home.com> wrote in message
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Holy Crap Loco were you drinkin with your slave bitches last night???
God I have to requote myself to show you what i said,
I said...Well and I sure as hell dont believe in Gor, but some ppl could
say Christianity is based on a work of Fiction and people adopted it as
a way of religion.
Note the "SOME COULD PEOPLE SAY" - Not ZeRo SAYS.
Now one of yours,"
5) You seem to be equating Gor with religion. That's yet another
misconception that I tire of having to counter."
If you have read any of my past posts you will see that I have said
straight out, I KNOW its NOT a religion.
You ob
no no , I'll let it go. You dont need anyone to tell you what to do, or
the people you gather amongst.
Go play.
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Chris Waddell
dmonix at home.com
www.dmonix.net
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Holy Crap Loco were you drinkin with your slave bitches last night???<br>
God I have to requote myself to show you what i said,<br>
<i><br>
I said...Well and I sure as hell dont believe in Gor, but some ppl could say
Christianity is based on a work of Fiction and people adopted it as a
way of religion.
</i><br>
<br>
Note the "SOME COULD PEOPLE SAY" - Not ZeRo SAYS.<br>
<br>
Now one of yours,"<pre wrap=""><i>5) You seem to be equating Gor with religion. That's yet another<br>misconception that I tire of having to counter."<br><br></i><big><big><big><big><big>If you have read </big></big></big></big></big><big><big><big><big><big>any of my past posts you will see that I have said straight out, I KNOW its NOT a religion.</big></big></big></big></big><big><big><big><big><big><i><br><br></i>You ob<i><br><br></i>no no , I'll let it go. You dont need anyone to tell you what to do, or the people you gather amongst.<br>Go play.<i><br></i></big></big></big></big></big></pre>
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Dec 17, 2000, 6:56pm
Eep, don't make fun of people :) Some of us use to many smiles, so hush
about that. Very imature of you to post that, really.
[View Quote]"eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:3A3A268C.ADBE3E91 at tnlc.com...
> Yo, cool it with all the exclamation points! It's! very! annoying!
>
> myssie wrote:
>
either
anyone
and
process
doesn't
regardless!
have
for
post
damage
are if
those of
excuse
enough
anymore
very
hurtful
I
valid
not
want
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Dec 17, 2000, 7:02pm
From reading www.gor.com/what-is-gor.htm, its more like medieval times, NOT
sexual thrills, nor a cheap way to Cyber.
Dec 17, 2000, 7:03pm
http://www.gor.com/what-is-gor.html, My bad, sorry :)
[View Quote]"young phalpha" <y_phalpha at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> From reading www.gor.com/what-is-gor.htm, its more like medieval times,
NOT
> sexual thrills, nor a cheap way to Cyber.
>
>
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Dec 17, 2000, 9:05pm
Don't make me smack you, kid. It's very immature of someone to exclamate each sentence. I left it quoted so you can actually READ it this time. Ask your mommy for help if you have to.
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> Eep, don't make fun of people :) Some of us use to many smiles, so hush
> about that. Very imature of you to post that, really.
[View Quote]> "eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:3A3A268C.ADBE3E91 at tnlc.com...
> either
> anyone
> and
> process
> doesn't
> regardless!
> have
> for
> post
> damage
> are if
> those of
> excuse
> enough
> anymore
> very
> hurtful
> I
> valid
> not
> want
> it,
> of
> to
> heard
> for 3
> just
> hurtful
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Dec 18, 2000, 12:55pm
Please don't post this crap here. You have your forum page. There is no
need to subject "us" (meaning: Normal People) with this Gorean shit.
Thankyouverymuch!
[View Quote]locodarwin wrote in message <3a3c32fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com>...
>No, you will not be flamed. I will just sit back and let you flame me
>instead - like you are currently doing.
>
>It's *so* great to be compared to Nazi Germany in the 40's. I can't
believe
>how naive that comparison is.
>
>Anyway, you are entitled to your beliefs, as I am mine. Don't let anyone
>tell you what to believe.
>
>Believe what you believe.
>
>I will do the same, ok?
>
>Very good, thank you.
>
>-Locodarwin
>
>
>
>"jeff raven" <bgrada at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in message
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Don't even bother with this idiot, zero. Hopefully he'll leave.
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This is a community forum and Locodarwin is a member of this community.
What other reasons will you find to exclude people from the community if
you once started?
And it was not Locodarwin who posted the shit, he just quoted it!
This thread would long have ended if some people were a little more
tolerant. I do not know much about Gor but I think none of those who
take part in their rites and use their language is forced to do that -
so comparing it to the Nazis or any forms of slavery in the history is
not valid.
xavarella schrieb:
>
> Please don't post this crap here. You have your forum page. There is no
> need to subject "us" (meaning: Normal People) with this Gorean shit.
>
> Thankyouverymuch!
>
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Dec 26, 2000, 12:01am
Eep, do you have to make a point about a bunch of exclamation points? :) Hey
mabey some people have that habit, nothing you can really do 'bout that. :)
Now, I don't mean to insult you, but its kinda stupid to start up an
argument about that, so lets end it here okay? :) We really don't need a
plethora of posts like this, it just takes up space :)
Thank ya :)
LilAlpha Phalpha :)
[View Quote]>Eep wrote:
> Don't make me smack you, kid. It's very immature of someone to exclamate
each sentence. I left it quoted so you can actually READ it this time. Ask
your mommy for help if you have to.
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Dec 26, 2000, 2:24am
Especially when people post to threads that have long since died...
Don't you people look at DATES?! :P This thing's been dead for over a
week!
[View Quote]lilalpha phalpha wrote:
>
> Eep, do you have to make a point about a bunch of exclamation points? :) Hey
> mabey some people have that habit, nothing you can really do 'bout that. :)
> Now, I don't mean to insult you, but its kinda stupid to start up an
> argument about that, so lets end it here okay? :) We really don't need a
> plethora of posts like this, it just takes up space :)
>
> Thank ya :)
>
> LilAlpha Phalpha :)
>
> each sentence. I left it quoted so you can actually READ it this time. Ask
> your mommy for help if you have to.
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Goober King
Thinks some people just love beating a dead horse...
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
Jan 4, 2001, 8:50pm
i think this gor shit is disgusting, so post it somewhere else,plz :/
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In article <3a3e2552 at server1.Activeworlds.com>, "xavarella"
[View Quote]<xavarella at unforgettable.com> wrote:
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> Please don't post this crap here. You have your forum page. There is no
> need to subject "us" (meaning: Normal People) with this Gorean shit.
>
> Thankyouverymuch!
>
>
[View Quote]> locodarwin wrote in message <3a3c32fe$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com>...
> believe
>
>
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Jan 4, 2001, 8:56pm
We're all glad you feel that way, milenko, but this thread has long
since died. Doesn't anyone look at DATES in here?!
[View Quote]milenko wrote:
>
> i think this gor shit is disgusting, so post it somewhere else,plz :/
>
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> In article <3a3e2552 at server1.Activeworlds.com>, "xavarella"
> <xavarella at unforgettable.com> wrote:
>
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Goober King
Get a calendar, people! Oy!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
Oct 18, 2001, 8:31pm
As one who was in Gor you have my agreement on this Myssie. I always tried
to keep my Gor actions seperated from other actions I did within AW outside
of Gor worlds. I also encouraged all those who were Gor and around me to do
that same.
I finally got tired of the BS going on in Gor and left it behind me. And now
I have people (kids I suspect) comign into my world (non Gor world too, and
signs at GZ state this clearly) and almost beg to be allowed to play Gor
there. So I do share your frustrations about Gor i non-Gor places.
I do nto hold any animosity towards those who remain in Gor in AW, and some
of them are good friends to me. But those who are friends also seem to be
able to adapt to a non-Gor setting too.
[View Quote]"myssie" <yonkers21 at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3a38ae4b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I just want to say a few things here! I know what I have to say won't make
a
> bit of difference but I want to say it anyways! *sigh* I have heard and
seen
> many people say that those who are of gor are always getting bashed by
those
> of us who are not of gor! Let me say something to that! First off, whether
> those of gor realize it or not, they set themselves up TO be bashed! HOW
you
> ask! Simple! They bring the gor talk to grounds where NON gor's attend
such
> as...Alpha World, Bingo's etc. YES it's a program free for ALL to use BUT
> many like myself believe that there is a time and place for that! We
choose
> NOT to go to gor because we want NO parts of it for whatever reasons! WHY
> should we be subject to it outside gor? There are many gor worlds from
what
> I can see where that kind of behavior and talk should remain! The gor's
say
> they respect the kids that are around etc. YET they still continue to talk
> gor! They ban kids from entering as well as tourist so WHY go to places
> where the kids and those like myself are NON gor and don't like it? I have
> been offended many times by the gors but have bit my tongue and not said a
> word ONLY because my best friend is of gor which deeply saddens me! *sigh*
> You people of gor say that YOU want respect, well my reply to you
> is....respect goes BOTH ways! Respect OUR territory and don't speak gor or
> act gor around us and we won't bash you and we will treat you with
respect!
> I get grams from thos of gor saying he or she (meaning themselves) I think
> it's AWFUL and DEGRADING!!!
> My opinion is this....If you want to play in non gor worlds that is fine!
No
> problem there BUT all we ask is that you keep the gor talk and behavior to
> yourselves and in whispers to one another! I HATE being subjected to it
and
> so do MANY MANY other NON gor people! We don't WANT to hate those of gor
but
> they are leaving us no choice by shoving it down our throats! We get TIRED
> of seeing it and hearing it! It's different if we ask about it but we
don't
> and have to put up with it! We go to Bingo to relax and have fun and next
> thing you know we are invaded by gors! NO we don't have a problem with
gor's
> playing! What we DO have the problem with is the gor behavior and talk!
(tal
> this, tal that, master this , slave that, yaddie yaddie yaddie) BINGO IS
NOT
> THE PLACE FOR IT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
> I have become very bitter towards the gor "religion" or whatever you call
> it! WHY? well because several months ago I lost a best friend to gor and
now
> we rarely ever speak which hurts me deeply! The second reason is because I
> have since (within the past few days) lost my other best friend to gor and
> now SHE hardly speaks to me! it hurts me sooo much that I have lost the 2
> people that I loved dearly as a friend! it hurts so much that I find
myself
> crying all the time because it feels like a death to me! *huge sigh* the 3
> of us used to do everything together and now we rarely talk to one another
> or see one another! That's NOT fair to me and it hurts MORE than they or
> anyone else will ever know! :...o(
> Ok I think I have said my piece! if I think of anything more I will add
it!
> I'm sure I will get a LOT of negative feedback on this too! This post is
NOT
> to insult, degrade, upset, anger or put anyone down! It's just my way of
> getting it off my chest!
> Thanks!
>
> ~Myssie~
>
>
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Oct 18, 2001, 8:35pm
Erm... you *do* realize this thread is almost a *year* old?!
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> As one who was in Gor you have my agreement on this Myssie. I always tried
> to keep my Gor actions seperated from other actions I did within AW outside
> of Gor worlds. I also encouraged all those who were Gor and around me to do
> that same.
>
> I finally got tired of the BS going on in Gor and left it behind me. And now
> I have people (kids I suspect) comign into my world (non Gor world too, and
> signs at GZ state this clearly) and almost beg to be allowed to play Gor
> there. So I do share your frustrations about Gor i non-Gor places.
>
> I do nto hold any animosity towards those who remain in Gor in AW, and some
> of them are good friends to me. But those who are friends also seem to be
> able to adapt to a non-Gor setting too.
>
<snip>
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Goober King
Yet another reason why Outlook SUCKS!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
Oct 18, 2001, 10:42pm
It is? How you know dog?
[View Quote]"goober king" <rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu> wrote in message
news:3BCF58D2.2090503 at acsu.buffalo.edu...
> Erm... you *do* realize this thread is almost a *year* old?!
>
> dotar sojat wrote:
>
tried
outside
do
now
and
some
be
> <snip>
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> Yet another reason why Outlook SUCKS!
> rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu
>
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Oct 19, 2001, 12:23am
Hi there,
[View Quote]See that little news:msgID at server1.Activeworlds.com tag thingy after the "wrote in message" as seen below?
Click on that and you'll get the source of what was replied to if the user didn't decide to delete it out of the replied message.
If you go to dotar sojat's reply. You'll find that it was left in there and you could then click on that and find that the original
message was posted on Thursday, December 14, 2000 7:26 AM
Ok, not quite a year, but anything over a few months is pretty much safe to call .. old. ;)
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As Paul Harvey would say,"And now you know the rest of the story. "
I pretty much posted this out of boredom. For those that learned anything, your welcome. ;)
Sorry for butting in Goober King.
Bits
[View Quote]"internal affairs" <biginsey at yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3bcf76f7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
| It is? How you know dog?
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Oct 19, 2001, 12:43am
Hello but wut exactly is a computar? i am runnign windoze 3.11z and i cant
use aol
[View Quote]"bitmaster" <BitMaster00 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi there,
>
> See that little news:msgID at server1.Activeworlds.com tag thingy after the
"wrote in message" as seen below?
> Click on that and you'll get the source of what was replied to if the user
didn't decide to delete it out of the replied message.
> If you go to dotar sojat's reply. You'll find that it was left in there
and you could then click on that and find that the original
> message was posted on Thursday, December 14, 2000 7:26 AM
> Ok, not quite a year, but anything over a few months is pretty much safe
to call .. old. ;)
>
> As Paul Harvey would say,"And now you know the rest of the story. "
>
> I pretty much posted this out of boredom. For those that learned
anything, your welcome. ;)
>
> Sorry for butting in Goober King.
>
> Bits
>
> "internal affairs" <biginsey at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3bcf76f7 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> | It is? How you know dog?
>
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