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Advertising and its lack of logic... // General Discussionstrike rapierDec 10, 2002, 5:17pm
"Did you know that 1 in every 5 computers is infected with a virus? Don't
become a statistic! Click here to find out how easy it is to help protect your PC with McAfee.com. " - From Hotmail file scan download. If thats true.. then are you not still a statistic if you dont have a virus? "The 1 in 5 who does not" - Mark Silly Microsoft d a nDec 10, 2002, 6:12pm
"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>Mark >Silly Microsoft Correction: Silly Hotmail or MSN. Actully its mainly the people who work for microsoft who run msn. And mcafee actully paid hotmail or hotmail paid them as they use that for attachments attacking msn. It happens but 1 in 5 >_<. Lets jsut remind you: "Most viruses created are harmless" but actully the ones you hear about most are harmful. --- D a n - Silly MSN / Hotmail / Microsoft (Could be?) anduinDec 10, 2002, 7:40pm
An identity claiming to be known as strike rapier scribed the following news:3df63dd8$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com :
> If thats true.. then are you not still a statistic if you dont have a virus? > "The 1 in 5 who does not" Don't you mean 4 in 5 who are *not* infected by a virus ;) -- Anduin (317281) - The Gorean Scribe - http://www.goreanscribe.com strike rapierDec 10, 2002, 8:14pm
stecloudDec 10, 2002, 9:08pm
Advertising has always done stupid things like that. It sounds like some
sort of scare tactic but not a very good one. "One in five - jeez, i better get their virus checking software because mine must be terrible!" Don't know why anyone would automatically assume that. OK one in five computers have a virus, i'm not going to say its untrue. Just bare in mind there are hundreads of thousands of bacterium in the human body - its nothing to worry about. - Ste PS - not condoining viruses, viruses can be something to worry about - check regually ;) [View Quote] strike rapierDec 10, 2002, 9:10pm
Most Bacteria don't immediately attempt to get to your brain and wipe your
long term memory and hog your thought processes. As opposed to virus's which Wipe your HD and hog your RAM / Processor. - Mark [View Quote] stecloudDec 10, 2002, 9:15pm
Perhaps it was a bad analogy, but I stand by it - the vast majority of
viruses are harmless or can be conunteracted by defences - that was the point I was trying to put across. [View Quote] bowenDec 10, 2002, 10:17pm
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The only difference is your body stays infected with whatever virus you get. Which
is why most people only get Chickenpox (and it's varient smallpox -- if you live through it) once. I think we should rename computer virus into computer bacterium. :P --Bowen-- agent1 webmaster@shatteredplattersdotcomDec 10, 2002, 11:01pm
okokokokokokokokokokok *takes deep breath* That's totally incorrect :O
A virus (I'm talking real-life, not computer) invades a cell or cells and hijacks it, replacing your DNA with its own. The cell starts making more of the virus until it explodes (or the virus passes through the membrane) and the new "copies" go around infecting other cells. Your white blood cells see something frumpy's going on, and so they attack the virulent stuff and produce antibodies that will bind to that specific virus in the future. These either prevent the virus from entering the cells of your body or hold it until fluids produced by the liver can destroy it. Either way, you don't "stay infected" with a virus; that's just wrong. -Agent1 [View Quote] bowenDec 11, 2002, 12:48am
> okokokokokokokokokokok *takes deep breath* That's totally incorrect :O
> > A virus (I'm talking real-life, not computer) invades a cell or cells and hijacks it, replacing your DNA with its own. The cell starts making more of the virus until it explodes (or the virus passes through the membrane) and the new "copies" go around infecting other cells. > > Your white blood cells see something frumpy's going on, and so they attack the virulent stuff and produce antibodies that will bind to that specific virus in the future. These either prevent the virus from entering the cells of your body or hold it until fluids produced by the liver can destroy it. > > Either way, you don't "stay infected" with a virus; that's just wrong. Wow you really are an idiot aren't you? Try again, virii are dormant in your system and can never be completely destroyed/removed. That's why you get immunized you jackoff. Some require booster shots to work correctly but it's the same principle. --Bowen-- goober kingDec 11, 2002, 12:57am
*blink* Bowen, are you actually getting pissed off over a discussion
about viruses?! Have you been dipping into BinaryBud's stash or something? How about you go outside, take a deep breath, go for a walk, and maybe meet some new people while you're at it. It'll do your body, and the viruses inside 'em, some good. [View Quote] -- Goober King Translation: You people *really* need to get out more! gooberking at utn.cjb.net bowenDec 11, 2002, 1:08am
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No, I'm sick of freakfaces like him who actually think they're right on everything.
The only time he responds, given that one time, is to actually be pissy. Now, before he comes back and says I'm wrong. T-memory cells use forms of transduction to ingest the virii and take it's DNA/RNA in some viruses. Most often they take the lipid/protein coat as to help recognize the virus outside of a host cell. Doing this actually ensures the genetic material of the virus survives. During this battle the virus mutates enough to not be noticed and it no longer is trigered by the actual device which activated it. Hence why you can never cure a virus since it will always be present in your system. Chickenpox, Smallpox, HIV, Influenza, the common cold. You name it, they stay in your system. Hell; why do you think you can only get chicken pox once or twice? Memory T-cells degenerate after approximately 7 years so if that's the reason you're thinking of it's not true. --Bowen-- binarybudDec 11, 2002, 1:24pm
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goober kingDec 12, 2002, 1:58am
Thank you for completely missing my point. I guess I need to get a
little lower with the message here... How about this: CALM THE FUCK DOWN!!!!! Dude, nobody but you cares, ok? Either find something a bit more worthwhile to complain about or just shut your cakehole! And if you want to pick a fight with Agent1, take it to email. [View Quote] -- Goober King As subtle as a brick to the head gooberking at utn.cjb.net bowenDec 12, 2002, 2:32am
> Dude, nobody but you cares, ok? Either find something a bit more
Well now if you'd use that brain you so subtly like to flaunt you'd realize he obviously does. > As subtle as a brick to the head Stop looking in the mirror so much and realize how much of a jackass he is and stop putting it all on me for just defending myself for the ump-teenth time. --Bowen-- goober kingDec 12, 2002, 2:48am
Ok, here's using a brain for you:
In this entire virus argument, you have posted... *counts*... three posts pertaining to the argument. Meanwhile, Agent1 has posted... *counts*... One. Now, remind me again... what makes you think he cares? As for him being a jackass, so what? You make it sound like he's out to get you or something, when he does that to *everybody*. If you had actually read my NG2tNGs, you would know that. :P [View Quote] -- Goober King Pestering Bowen because he cares... gooberking at utn.cjb.net bowenDec 12, 2002, 12:27pm
> As for him being a jackass, so what? You make it sound like he's out to
> get you or something, when he does that to *everybody*. If you had > actually read my NG2tNGs, you would know that. :P On average how much does he pester me compared to anyone else? Oh wait that's right, more than 200%. I get rediculed enough between AWCom and everyone I help for no reason, I don't need you and he on top of it. --Bowen-- |