1  ...  2  3  4  5  6  |   Order by index

Jan 10, 1999, 2:10pm

David! You sure know how to tell him! (c:
I totally agree with you! But i wasn't religious..
And talking bad about others religions can be the worst thing someone can ever
hear from others. I myself don't got any specific religion, but I still think
you should think about what you write about others, Eep!

Eep! Do you think you could learn as much Norwegian as I know English when you
were 14 years old??

And again, Eep. Think about what you're saying before you press the Send button!

-CyberTwins


[View Quote] > Wow... ethnic, religious and newbie abuse in one posting..impressive Eep²!
>
> First-up: I agree that renderware is letting AW down, and that hardware
> rendering will put AW miles ahead of other 3d online environments including
> VRML based ones. ie I dont disagree with your premise, but rather you means
> of expressing it:
>
>
> Anyone that expresses a contrary opinion is automatically a newbie or an
> idiot?? Why can't you accept that other have VALID opinions (generally in
> this thread they are not disagreed that the 3d engine can be improved, but
> on relative priority) eg:
>
> have you ever) work(ed) in the computer industry? I doubt it.
>
> Need for a put down to validate your arguement? I think not.
>
> a Christian or something (a glutton for punishment).
>
> Now I'm no puritan, but is it necessary to make religious slurs here?
>
> native language. :)
>
> American-centricity again? English IS my native language, and I have used
> both car store and Monstertruck inconversation. I actually think that the
> non-english-as-native-language posters here make perfect sense. The ability
> to learn a second language to a level they have shown is quite hard. Do you
> speak any other languages?
>
> Honestly Eep², you should rethink your need to denigrate others to support
> your arguements...let them stand on their merits.

Jan 10, 1999, 2:12pm

Um, if that were the case, the cards listed at http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/direct3d.html wouldn't work in AW using the RW Direct3D driver.

[View Quote] > The only cards I know about that are capable of rendering in a window are
> voodoo rush and banshee based cards. All other cards only do full screen.

Jan 10, 1999, 2:15pm

<ego mode: on> OK, tell you what: when England becomes the most powerful, influential nation in the world, I'll learn "proper" English. Until then it's American all the way, baby. <ego mode: off>

Jan 10, 1999, 2:17pm

There is no "american" (or "American") language. It may be AmericanIZED English, but it's still English. There are also many DIALECTS of English...however they're still English.

[View Quote] [View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 2:24pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] Then quit replying with babble and senseless responses. Lay off the mind games and stick the topic.

> card. AW's minimum >requirements are shit.
>
> Again not right. You said COF gives a way too low minimum requirement, and
> that the current engine is shit. You say they have to correct at least one
> of these two. Then, I give AW's performance on a reasonable good computer
> with 3D acceleration. Then I say that the performance still isn't very high.
> I agreed to you on that point, I didn't decline it.

See above. Lay off the tangents.

> ADEQUATE RenderWare Direct3D drivers. You'd think after COF (although
> probably actually Worlds) paid, what, $10K (or a few $K to upgrade from
> version 2.0) for RenderWare 2.1 they'd at least want to get their money's
> worth. I already tried bugging them but I can only do so much since I don't
> actually have a license with them. COF should. I even posted about this on
> their listserve but Criterion never responded and some other people who paid
> big money for RenderWare were pretty pissed too. For all intensive purposes,
> RenderWare is dead.
>
> Mabye Roland should try OpenGL. Nowadays, it's reasonable fast, gives a WAY
> better image quality, has full 3dfx support (and other hardware
> acceleration, I believe), is system-independent, and well documented. And
> best, its totally *free*. No licenses, no $10K. OpenGL lives, more and more
> hardware accelerator producers deliver OpenGL drivers with their cards. More
> and more games and apps use OpenGL. OpenGL is worked on all the time. In my
> opinion, a *far* better choice than sticking to RenderWare.

If Roland can't even program with Direct3D (also a free license with the most popular 3D card/chip support), he ain't gonna do any better with OpenGL (not even anywhere NEAR as many 3D cards/chips support OpenGL as they support Direct3D). And if it's taken COF (Roland, ENZO, Cryonics--who knows who) THIS long to realize software rendering is not the way to go, they truly ARE idiots and shouldn't even be TRYING to develop a 3D app at all. 3D Anarchy and Flatland have more promise at their current development life (in utero and fresh out of the womb, respectively) than AW has had in probably all 4+ years of its infancy.

Jan 10, 1999, 2:30pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] The POINT is S3 ONLY makes video cards/chips. Not knowing that (and trying to talk like you know about 3D) just makes you look like an idiot to me. Do you get it yet or do I have to beat your head into the curb some more?

> made/make cards at one point. > Yes, their chips are shit; hence why I even
> use them as an example to prove my point about not
>
> Even if you 'proved' your point":
> I'd still rather have no 3d-card at all than a bad one. Not 3d-card saves
> money (which I could use for buying a good one) and a bad one is a waste of
> money.

No, if I proved my point to you, you'd've shut up long ago in this thread and not bothered to continue making yourself look like even more of an idiot. But keep it up...it's mildly entertaining to badger you on like I have been. :)

> the English language so, >in your failed attempt at English communication,
> you look like an idiot. :) Hence the smiley. It >amuses me. Duh.
>
> Ok let's assume my English is worhtless so I shouldn't try to speak it.
> What do you want me to do?
> Speak Dutch? (I *do* speak dutch very well..)

See above. Don't "speak" at all...or type.

>
> Overreacting? [euphemism]

relative

> stop being idiotic, deal?
>
> The only one who thinks I'm being idiotic because of a misunderstanding, is
> you.
> So maybe I should try not to misunderstand you and you should try not to
> overreact.

To not misunderstand me means not even TRYING to understand me in the first place. You continually fail so why bother future attempts? You obviously aren't going to "understand" me anytime soon.

Jan 10, 1999, 5:46pm

that's just your problem... jou don't *WANT* to know what everyone says...

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 5:48pm

[View Quote] No, that you don't want to listen, or aren't able to. Also that you don't
recognize the right solution to a problem even if you are standing on it.
And that you are less smart than you think.

>
>hardware
>either.
>
>

Jan 10, 1999, 5:52pm

No, you're stupid. I am not arrogant, and 102% sure that I am *RIGHT*.

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 5:54pm

[View Quote] What I replied actually *was* on-topic.

>
a
Pentium
minimum
dig?
all
40m,
green
sight the
and
one
high.
>
>See above. Lay off the tangents.
>
engine and
don't
on
paid
purposes,
WAY
more
More
my
>
>If Roland can't even program with Direct3D (also a free license with the
most popular 3D card/chip support), he ain't gonna do any better with OpenGL
(not even anywhere NEAR as many 3D cards/chips support OpenGL as they
support Direct3D). And if it's taken COF (Roland, ENZO, Cryonics--who knows
who) THIS long to realize software rendering is not the way to go, they
truly ARE idiots and shouldn't even be TRYING to develop a 3D app at all. 3D
Anarchy and Flatland have more promise at their current development life (in
utero and fresh out of the womb, respectively) than AW has had in probably
all 4+ years of its infancy.
>

Jan 10, 1999, 7:07pm

Translation/vertaling:

'Dat was slechts één van de dingen waar we dagen over deden.... wat dacht je
van de National Science Quis, with that logical question?'

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:11pm

That's very, very lame of you cubic.

I think he overestimates. You say you don't agree but do not say why. Then I
ask you why but you can't even answer the question.

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum


[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:11pm

I fully agree here.

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:13pm

You could be the first to.

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:20pm

Isn't it Quiz?

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:28pm

yep. typo.

besides: 'kwiz' isn't good either. It's either 'kwis' or 'quiz' and I'm not
sure what NS1995 thinks of 'kwis'.... I don't have a green book.

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:40pm

[View Quote] I said: I didn't image s3 makes reald 3d-cards/
U said: Whay *else* does s3 make.
I said: *2*D cards for instances??


And yes I get what you're saying. But will you stop beating my head into the
curb?

even
of
>
>No, if I proved my point to you, you'd've shut up long ago in this thread
and not bothered to continue making yourself look like even more of an
idiot. But keep it up...it's mildly entertaining to badger you on like I
have been. :)
>
talking about. In my mind,
experience/knowledge),
there?
of a
communication,
>
>See above. Don't "speak" at all...or type.
>
>
>relative
>
fight.
is
>
>To not misunderstand me means not even TRYING to understand me in the first
place. You continually fail so why bother future attempts? You obviously
aren't going to "understand" me anytime soon.
>

Jan 10, 1999, 7:46pm

[View Quote] He didn't say that

>It's either 'kwis' or 'quiz'

He said that.

>and I'm not
>sure what NS1995 thinks of 'kwis'.... I don't have a green book.

I could look it up.
But i won't.
I don't really care and I don't wanna run the stairs down and up again...

>
[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:48pm

[View Quote]
And damn right you are.
As long as you don't claim to speak English.
(I won't claim so either... I'm native Dutchman)

Jan 10, 1999, 7:48pm

[View Quote] The question is who's fault that is.

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:49pm

[View Quote] I never claimed to be smart.
And you can't blame me for agreeing with myself even though others don't
agree with me.

>
>
>

Jan 10, 1999, 7:50pm

[View Quote] So am I, so we're even.

[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:50pm

[View Quote] Neither can you.

>The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
>-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum
>
>
[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 7:52pm

Lay off the pop psychology bit, eh? I won't respond to you in the future if you persist.

[View Quote] >
> Anyone that expresses a contrary opinion is automatically a newbie or an
> idiot??

No, anyone who expresses newbieness is a newbie; idiocy is an idiot. :) Dig this circular logic, eh?

> Why can't you accept that other have VALID opinions (generally in
> this thread they are not disagreed that the 3d engine can be improved, but
> on relative priority)

Oh, my opinion of their opinion isn't valid? How cliche you are...try again. Opinions go both ways.

> eg:
>
> have you ever) work(ed) in the computer industry? I doubt it.
>
> Need for a put down to validate your arguement? I think not.

You'll see later that it was true. Therefore it wasn't a "put down". Wee.

> a Christian or something (a glutton for punishment).
>
> Now I'm no puritan, but is it necessary to make religious slurs here?

Yup.

> native language. :)
>
> American-centricity again? English IS my native language, and I have used
> both car store and Monstertruck inconversation.

How wasted were you? "car store" is just silly and "monstertruck" should be two words, also not capitalized as Cubic had it. And I don't even need to mention "el-car"...

> I actually think that the
> non-english-as-native-language posters here make perfect sense. The ability
> to learn a second language to a level they have shown is quite hard. Do you
> speak any other languages?

Nope. I concentrate on the language I communicate with. "perfect sense" to you is "not quite got it" to me, in this respect.

> Honestly Eep², you should rethink your need to denigrate others to support
> your arguements...let them stand on their merits.

Their "merits" already give me enough basis to "denigrate" them.

Jan 10, 1999, 7:52pm

[View Quote] South-African definitely originates from Dutch. But it's recognized as an
independant language, though. For dutch ppl, it's always funny to here it.
It sounds so simple it's funny ;-)

>
[View Quote]

Jan 10, 1999, 8:00pm

[View Quote] [View Quote] You must just mainly chat or something. Try moving around and actually GO somewhere in AW; build and play with the visiblity settings—you know, actually USE AW.

> It's normally on 8-9 kbps and that's enough for me.

Um, throughput has very little, if anything, to do with FRAME RATE (fps). Try to at least know what you're talking about, eh?

> I don't need anymore to enjoy AW!

Well that's obvious. But REAL computer users DO need more from AW to enjoy it better, however.

> And I got a 3 yrs old Pentium 133 with resently updated ram (now 32), and it have been a bit slow before, but it works just great now and it has been for a long time..
> I hope 1999 will be a year of changes (c:

Yea, me too. A way to filter twits like you and make them get clues so they don't sound like idiots.

>
> Nope, it didn't jerk twitch and lag! I'm not even religious, I want the same as you, but I've already had that for a while. It wasn't always that reliable, but I think it is now.. And it is good enough to enjoy AW and do what you came to do!

Um, no. AW may be good enough for YOU to enjoy what YOU "came to do", but not for me.

>
> They may do more work on the engine, I'm not saying that that's out of the question, but at least refresh the look a bit! For instance the gesture buttons.. Those are a bit old... The 3D engine IS a very important part, sure.. What would the application be without it? Just a good looking piece of shit, I know.. But I'd rather enjoy AW with 8-9 kbps and a new look on the program than wait some months till COF has improved the engine, so i must upgrade my computer and still have the old fasion look!

Now YOU'RE hung up on the sunroof. I give up dealing with idiots. I'm outta here.

>
> Nope, I'm only 14 years old, so that wouldn't be possible.. I've only worked with some programming and webdesign.. Maybe that's why I'm so eager to get a better look?
>
> If COF would make AW's engine so good that it required Voodo, Pentium 200+ and 64 MB RAM , most of the user would still be stucked with the old fasion look and nothing else! My computer is already soing its best, and that's ok for me, since I can't upgrade my computer (costs too much for a 14 yrs old boy)!
>
>
> As I said, I'm only 14 yrs old, and live in Norway, so you shouldn't expect more (c:
>
> -CyberTwins

Jan 10, 1999, 8:58pm

[View Quote]
READ BEFORE MAKING SUCH A STATEMENT, YOU IDIOT!

He /did/ say.

>
>He said that.

READ BEFORE MAKING SUCH A STATEMENT, YOU IDIOT!

He did /not/ say that.

>
>I could look it up.
>But i won't.
>I don't really care and I don't wanna run the stairs down and up again...

If you don't care then don't reply. Now piss off before I get angry.

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum


>
dacht
days
>less.
>S3.
>why
>In
>
>

Jan 10, 1999, 9:00pm

For instance, 'apartheid' is just as valid in dutch as it is in
south-african. It means 'distinctness'.

--

[ Fluxen Dean-Christian Strik ]
[ ICQ: 11760568 ISG RhinoSoft ]
[ fluxen at bigfoot.com dean2 at bigfoot.com ]

The nice thing of standards is that there are so many to choose from.
-- Andrew S. Tanenbaum

[View Quote]

Jan 11, 1999, 5:14am

Funny, the only 3D cards I know of that ONLY do full screen are Voodoo 1 & 2
cards.

Paul

[View Quote]

Jan 11, 1999, 6:28am

[View Quote]
Excommunicate me if you must, I actually have little need for your response
(as I doubted you would ACTUALY LISTEN TO WHAT I WAS SAYING), rather I was
making a statement to the wider NG about your manner.

>Oh, my opinion of their opinion isn't valid? How cliche you are...try
again. Opinions go both ways.

Actually your opinion of thier opinions IS valid, but the manner of
expressing them is anti-social. I just bet you could be civil if you put in
a little effort.


>You'll see later that it was true. Therefore it wasn't a "put down". Wee.


I agree it was true, but the use of the put down was by suggesting that
because the person had not worked in the industry the opinion was invalid.

>
>Yup.


Child

>How wasted were you? "car store" is just silly
what a store that sells car like a candy store sells candy, or a drug store
sells drugs (only in the US, here its a chemist)

>and "monstertruck" should be two words, also not capitalized as Cubic had
it.

yeah, and you americans invented all the dumb made-up words (well maybe the
Californians - Aerobicizing!)

>And I don't even need to mention "el-car"...


OK, this one sounds weird to me too..



Actually, I though your response would have been a bit more pointed, maybe I
actually got through to you just a little bit?....Nah too much to hope for.

1  ...  2  3  4  5  6  |   Order by index