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eep²

May 12, 1998, 6:58am
Just a bit. Now explain what crack you're smoking and why you want polyhedral (is that even a word?) multiple object selection. Start typing in plain English, bub. Stop overfilling what you're trying to say with redundant nonsense and just type the POINT.

[View Quote] > "to make a polyhedron based select" is a prepositional phrase which taken in
> the context of my earlier post states that what is likely to be possible is
> the addition of a feature to ActiveWorlds that would allow a polyhedral
> space to be selected.
>
> "each object you select in this way" indicates the sum of objects which are
> individually chosen to be included in the definition of the polyhedral
> space.
>
> "would add to the points" indicates the modification of the polyhedral space
> to include the selected points in 3D space as a consequence of polyhedral
> selection of objects.
>
> "on the outer edge of a polyhedra" indicates a location potentially on the
> outer boundries of the polyhedral space.
>
> "or a poligonal vertical prism" mentioned to highlight the fact that the
> polyhedral space could alternatively be defined by the definition of a
> polygon parallel to the ground plane by including all objects within that
> polygon at any altitude.
>
> "in which all objects enclosed by the defined area would be added to the
> selected group." indicates that once such a polyhedron is defined, all
> objects whose point of origin are within the defined polyhedron would be
> selected as a group.
>
> "Not that difficult to use," basically means that just about anyone could
> successfully select a group of objects in this mannor without having to be
> able to see all of the objects they wish to select.
>
> "and probably not difficult to add to the program either..." Means that
> the math and logic involved are not very complex and much of the needed
> coding is already in the program.
>
> Hope that clears it up a bit.

technozeus

May 12, 1998, 5:03pm
I withdraw my position. You wish to have this newsgroup all to yourself?
Have it. I will return to my usual channels for submitting suggestions.

If anyone would like my comments on anything, or my help with anything that
you would otherwise have posted in this newsgroup, please contact me
directly. I will continue to check the Beta newsgroup as long as I am
welcome there.

Signing off of WishList.

TechnoZeus.

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raven shadow

May 12, 1998, 5:05pm
Oh , Man !! That was GREAT !!
You lost him !!

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retsmah

May 12, 1998, 5:06pm
bet he still dont get it hahahahaha

TechnoZeus <TechnoZeus at uplogon.com> wrote in article <3557fcf3.0 at sundev>...
> Okay, I'll give it a shot...
>
> "Actually, it should be possible" is a statement declairing the
likelyness
> of a possibility.
>
> "to make a polyhedron based select" is a prepositional phrase which taken
in
> the context of my earlier post states that what is likely to be possible
is
> the addition of a feature to ActiveWorlds that would allow a polyhedral
> space to be selected.
>
> "where" is an indicator of position, used in this case to connect the
idea
> with it's descriptor.
>
> "each object you select in this way" indicates the sum of objects which
are
> individually chosen to be included in the definition of the polyhedral
> space.
>
> "would add to the points" indicates the modification of the polyhedral
space
> to include the selected points in 3D space as a consequence of polyhedral
> selection of objects.
>
> "on the outer edge of a polyhedra" indicates a location potentially on
the
> outer boundries of the polyhedral space.
>
> "or a poligonal vertical prism" mentioned to highlight the fact that the
> polyhedral space could alternatively be defined by the definition of a
> polygon parallel to the ground plane by including all objects within that
> polygon at any altitude.
>
> "in which all objects enclosed by the defined area would be added to the
> selected group." indicates that once such a polyhedron is defined, all
> objects whose point of origin are within the defined polyhedron would be
> selected as a group.
>
> "Not that difficult to use," basically means that just about anyone could
> successfully select a group of objects in this mannor without having to
be
> able to see all of the objects they wish to select.
>
> "and probably not difficult to add to the program either..." Means that
> the math and logic involved are not very complex and much of the needed
> coding is already in the program.
>
> "although I'm sure it won't be in 2.0" means that I do not expect to see
> such a feature in the next comming release version of ActiveWorlds.
>
> "since it might be a bit difficult to thoroughly test," specifies the
wide
> range of possible test situations as a reason why I do not expect this
> feature to be introduced in the version 2.0 beta for ActiveWorlds.
>
> "and it would definately take up too much time to get put into the works
> right now." means that I think the programmers are keeping busy already.
>
> "(IMO)" means In My Opinion.
>
> Hope that clears it up a bit.
>
> TechnoZeus.
>
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retsmah

May 12, 1998, 5:20pm
you always been a jerk off or did you have to work at it eep?

TechnoZeus <TechnoZeus at uplogon.com> wrote in article <35589c97.0 at sundev>...
> I withdraw my position. You wish to have this newsgroup all to yourself?
> Have it. I will return to my usual channels for submitting suggestions.
>
> If anyone would like my comments on anything, or my help with anything
that
> you would otherwise have posted in this newsgroup, please contact me
> directly. I will continue to check the Beta newsgroup as long as I am
> welcome there.
>
> Signing off of WishList.
>
> TechnoZeus.
>
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grover

May 12, 1998, 7:54pm
"Polyhedron" is a perfectly valid word describing an entire family of 3d shapes. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. Same thing with programming. Writing "hello world" in pascal does not make you an authority on complex
client-server relationships.
Hey, maybe you'll come accross the world "polyhedron" when you take geometry in 10th grade next year!

grover


[View Quote] > Just a bit. Now explain what crack you're smoking and why you want polyhedral (is that even a word?) multiple object selection. Start typing in plain English, bub. Stop overfilling what you're trying to say with redundant nonsense and just type the POINT.
>
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dthknight

May 12, 1998, 8:21pm
program stuff;

var
x: integer;

begin
for x:=1 to 100 do
writeln ('Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it
wrong.');
readln;
end.

Got the message Eep? :))

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eep²

May 12, 1998, 9:18pm
Years of finely-tuned practice. :)

[View Quote] > you always been a jerk off or did you have to work at it eep?

eep²

May 12, 1998, 9:21pm
Gee, that's spiffy, but "polyhedron" wasn't the word he was using; "polyhedral" was. :) Might want to read more carefully next time, champ. And who's claiming to be an authority, eh? I'm simply trying to understant what the hell he's babbling about. And I took geometry in 10th grade actually, but failed it. As I've stated before, I've never gotten past algebra 2.

[View Quote] > "Polyhedron" is a perfectly valid word describing an entire family of 3d shapes. Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it wrong. Same thing with programming. Writing "hello world" in pascal does not make you an authority on complex
> client-server relationships.
> Hey, maybe you'll come accross the world "polyhedron" when you take geometry in 10th grade next year!
>
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eep²

May 12, 1998, 9:22pm
moronic stuff;

Understanding is relative.

Wrong is relative.

Got the message Dth? :))

[View Quote] > program stuff;
>
> var
> x: integer;
>
> begin
> for x:=1 to 100 do
> writeln ('Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it
> wrong.');
> readln;
> end.
>
> Got the message Eep? :))

grover

May 12, 1998, 10:27pm
<HTML>
That's the first thing you've said in weeks that makes any sense at all!!&nbsp;
"polyhedral" is an
<BR>adjective describing a shape to have "polyhedron"-like properties.&nbsp;
I used "polyhedron"
<BR>because its the more commonly used variant.&nbsp; And polyhedron is
simply a generic term
<BR>for almost any faceted 3d shape.&nbsp; "poly", meaning "many", and
"hedron" meaning
<BR>something in greek.&nbsp; Probably "sides" but I'm not sure ;-)&nbsp;
The gist is, that a square, a
<BR>rhomboid, and even rwx's faceted interpretation of a parabaloid are
all polyhedra!
<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; As to "trying to understan<I>t</I>"... get a dictionary,
champ!

<P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Of course, lost in this bickering thread was the
original suggestion that aw group-select do a sort of "enclosure" defined
by just a few clicked objects.&nbsp; Can you delete this message, Roland?

<P>grover

[View Quote] [View Quote] <P>> "Polyhedron" is a perfectly valid word describing an entire family
of 3d shapes.&nbsp; Just because you don't understand something doesn't
make it wrong.&nbsp; Same thing with programming.&nbsp; Writing "hello
world" in pascal does not make you an authority on complex
<BR>> client-server relationships.
<BR>>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Hey, maybe you'll come accross the world
"polyhedron" when you take geometry in 10th grade next year!
<BR>>
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(_Y_.)'&nbsp; ._&nbsp;&nbsp; )&nbsp;&nbsp; `._ `. ``-..-'
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eep²

May 13, 1998, 12:21am
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Gee Wilikers! I made one (1) spelling mistake! <gasp> Sue me, sport. And, to all your babble: "it's all Greek to me". :)

Oh yea..."polyhedron" = "many something—probably 'sides'". REAL EXPLANATORY THERE, SUPERFLY.

Start typing in ENGLISH.

[View Quote] > That's the first thing you've said in weeks that makes any sense at all!! "polyhedral" is an
> adjective describing a shape to have "polyhedron"-like properties. I used "polyhedron"
> because its the more commonly used variant. And polyhedron is simply a generic term
> for almost any faceted 3d shape. "poly", meaning "many", and "hedron" meaning
> something in greek. Probably "sides" but I'm not sure ;-) The gist is, that a square, a
> rhomboid, and even rwx's faceted interpretation of a parabaloid are all polyhedra!
> As to "trying to understant"... get a dictionary, champ!

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<HTML>
Gee Wilikers! I made one (1) spelling mistake! &lt;gasp> Sue me, sport.
And, to all your babble: "it's all Greek to me". :)

<P>Oh yea..."polyhedron" = "many something—probably 'sides'". REAL EXPLANATORY
THERE, SUPERFLY.

<P>Start typing in ENGLISH.

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leo mauk

May 13, 1998, 2:37pm
That's what i thought....years of jerking off....that's what did it to
you Eep....:)

BB


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princess tia

May 15, 1998, 3:34pm
I think a good thing to remember is that many more people read these
newsgroups than post here.. people of varying ages, experiences, and
educational backgrounds. Sometimes, all it takes to get someone to
understand a concept is to include a plain language explanation of a
term such as you have done , grover (i. e. polyherdon - a generic term
for almost any faceted 3d shape)
:)

Princess Tia

[View Quote] > That's the first thing you've said in weeks that makes any sense at
> all!! "polyhedral" is an
> adjective describing a shape to have "polyhedron"-like properties. I
> used "polyhedron"
> because its the more commonly used variant. And polyhedron is simply
> a generic term
> for almost any faceted 3d shape. "poly", meaning "many", and "hedron"
> meaning
> something in greek. Probably "sides" but I'm not sure ;-) The gist
> is, that a square, a
> rhomboid, and even rwx's faceted interpretation of a parabaloid are
> all polyhedra!
> <snip> Of course, lost in this bickering thread was the
> original suggestion that aw group-select do a sort of "enclosure"
> defined by just a few clicked objects. Can you delete this message,
> Roland?
>
> grover
>
>
>


>

eep²

May 16, 1998, 2:38am
Right, and had TechZeus done this originally, and not babbled on and on about something that still doesn't make sense to me, this thread might not be happening. Wow.

[View Quote] > I think a good thing to remember is that many more people read these
> newsgroups than post here.. people of varying ages, experiences, and
> educational backgrounds. Sometimes, all it takes to get someone to
> understand a concept is to include a plain language explanation of a
> term such as you have done , grover (i. e. polyherdon - a generic term
> for almost any faceted 3d shape)

technozeus

May 18, 1998, 5:56am
My intention was not to lose anyone. I apologize to whoever may have found
my terminology unclear. This is not easy for me, but in an attempt to be
nice to the people who have expressed appreciation for my efforts in the
past I have decided to swallow my pride and attempt to re-join the wishlist
newsgroup. I was insulted, but I'm sure it was not intentional so I will
attempt to go back to offering my input as long as I am allowed to do so
with some dignity. Of course I do make mistakes, and perhaps my choice of
wording was one of them. I simply did not think of a more concise or more
accurate way to say what I said at that time. Please forgive me for not
doing better. To me it really was "plain English" but I do realize that
vocabularies differ, as do dialects and many other factors. By the way, I
had originally intended to use the more generic term "polytopal" rather than
"polyhedral" since it would then have generalized readily to any number of
dimensions, but I thought that there may be some people who were less
familliar with that term, and therefore decided to use the "every day term"
even though it was slightly less encompassing, in order to make it easier
for a few people to understand more clearly.

Eep, since I know you will read this, I would like to point out to you here
that although there is nothing wrong with pointing out that something could
be improved on, it serves no purpose to do so without regard for people's
feelings. Many good ideas may be lost if we chase away the people who would
have offered them before they get the chance. I am not perfect, nor do I
try to be, but I do try to be kind and helpful to others. Please don't
punish me for not always doing as good as you would like me to. I do my
best, and that's all I can do. Hopefully in time my best will get better.

Now, to try to put the idea I stated earlier into plain English...

It sould be possible to add a feature that would allow selection of all
objects in a specific 3D area (or space) by selecting certain objects to
define a bounding shape for the selection of all objects within that shape.
An alternative would be to allow selection of objects to define a 2D
bounding shape parallel to the ground for selection of all of the objects
that have their "x,z" coordinate location within that shape.

If any of this is still unclear, please politely let me know exactly which
part and I will attempt to clearify further. Thankyou.

TechnoZeus

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beardo

May 18, 1998, 9:24am
Welcome back!! :-)

TechnoZeus skrev i meddelandet <355fe880.0 at homer>...
>My intention was not to lose anyone. I apologize to whoever may have
found
>my terminology unclear. This is not easy for me, but in an attempt to be
>nice to the people who have expressed appreciation for my efforts in the
>past I have decided to swallow my pride and attempt to re-join the wishlist
>newsgroup. I was insulted, but I'm sure it was not intentional so I will

[snip]

>TechnoZeus

technozeus

May 20, 1998, 3:49pm
Thankyou.

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bill houldsworth

Dec 23, 1998, 8:59pm
[View Quote] > Would be great if we could hold the mouse button down and drag around a
> group of
> objects to select those objects for movement or deletion.
>
> Princess Tia

I am new. I am also 10 years old. I wish that i could some how get a free
world or citizenship!!!I agree with you princess tia

=?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=

Dec 23, 1998, 11:37pm
They get younger and younger...creepy. Shouldn't your parents be monitoring what you do on the Net?

[View Quote] > I am new. I am also 10 years old. I wish that i could some how get a free
> world or citizenship!!!I agree with you princess tia

dthknight

Dec 24, 1998, 1:13am
*personal opinion of a 17 year old* many 10 year olds are mature enough to
not need monitoring. I think below that yes, monitoring is in order. And
personally I think this Bill guy isn't mature enough... plus tourists are
annoying sometimes :) Then again, some tourists are a delight to be
around... a lot of it is just what kind of person the 10-12 year old is -
some are wonderfully funny and smart kids who don't need one minute's worth
of watching on the Net. :)

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Dec 24, 1998, 9:20am
[View Quote] Well, it doesn't really show, does it?
Appearantly Bill does not fit in these "many".

>I think below that yes, monitoring is in order. And
>personally I think this Bill guy isn't mature enough... plus tourists are
>annoying sometimes :) Then again, some tourists are a delight to be
>around... a lot of it is just what kind of person the 10-12 year old is -
>some are wonderfully funny and smart kids who don't need one minute's worth
>of watching on the Net. :)
>
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rolu

Dec 24, 1998, 12:14pm
that's what he said...

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fluxen

Dec 24, 1998, 5:02pm
Andrew.

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thecheese

Dec 27, 1998, 1:15pm
Well, if you are a citizen, and have a great report card, you can get a free
world... Maybe you can say in the e-mail, i'd rather have a citizenship, too
or something 8-)

http://www.activeworlds.com/edu/

cheese

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