5 days left on world is it worth me renewing? (Community)

5 days left on world is it worth me renewing? // Community

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elysium

Apr 22, 2006, 9:16pm
5 days left in world is it worth me renewing? had about enough of AW and its
lack of information on progress on new version
why dont they inform world owners because there public relations stink

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ciena

Apr 22, 2006, 9:37pm
Ely AW doesnt even know when 4.1 will be ready. we r still finding bugs. u
want a program that will kill your puter befor it is ready? lol
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legion

Apr 23, 2006, 1:56pm
He's asking for its progress on development and stuff like that, not
when it is ready for public release. Essentially, AWI kept themselves
silent to large extent on 4.1 development instead of keeping us informed
on how it is going. It's not like it's a highly anticipated game or
whatever it is, so if they think they can achieve that effect, that will
not help their marketing either.

Their advertising effort is lacking, pathetic and it's outrageous
that it have to depend on words of mouths to gain new customers. It
effectively exploits our "communities" to do the work of advertising for
them. They do not take any efforts as much as they needed (does some but
need more than that). They are just being lazy on advertising efforts.

To show you how much their lack of effort forces us to do something
about it, SW City guys just recently started discussing about "viral
marketing" or something like that. It's really sad that we have to make
up for void that is the lack of advertising muscle of AWI. :/

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Respectfully Yours,
Legion
Chief Executive Officer and President of Operations
Circle of Peace Inc. Management

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the
problem." - Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States
(1981-1989)

ldyspice

Apr 23, 2006, 4:08pm
Elysium.....it's worth it to me for you to renew. Where else would I find
such beautiful trees and breathtaking flowers? Where else would I find such
realism as falling leaves in a VR world?
I know you didn't start in AW building and modeling to the perfection your
models have become to throw it all away because of a poor insight in a
company. Whether it's 3.1 or 4.1.....your artistic ability is needed and
sought after. Please stay.
Sincerely,
Ldyspice
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ciena

Apr 23, 2006, 4:56pm
I just gave him a progress report. It's comming along but we r still finding
bugs. They r working on it every day. Thats all u need to know. it will be
here when it is ready. Period. thats the progress report.
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bodhitah

Apr 23, 2006, 5:55pm
Sorry, but that's not good enough. Neither is your smart ass comments
ie: "Thats all u need to know."

The citizens and world owners of AW deserve to have our questions
answered correctly and in a timely matter.

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bodhitah

Apr 23, 2006, 5:57pm
That should read "timely MANNER"

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ciena

Apr 23, 2006, 9:43pm
I said they dont even know when it will be ready. how can they tell u if
they dont know and i really get sick of the whining going on about it.it
will be here when its here.
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bodhitah

Apr 23, 2006, 10:52pm
No, you didn't. You basically said "Shut up, It will be ready when it
comes out."

Well that's not good enough. I want AWI to explain to it's PAYING
customers, citizens and world owners, when they expect it to be
released, what progress they are or aren't making and not bullshit like
Rick's "It will be released April 1st" comment.

And frankly... Nobody cares whether you like to hear it or not.

You're nobody!!! Insignificant and irrelevant.

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ciena

Apr 23, 2006, 11:04pm
Well u can complain all u want but hows that working for ya? Do u stop to
think maybe they have a good reason for not telling? Again they do not know
when its gonna be realeased. When all the bigs r found and fixed. We just
found a bug the other day ( this insignificant person and another one found
it ). We still have to test the world servers yet too. Havent even started
that yet, so chill out and wait like u r gonna have to do anyway. I may be
insignificant to u but then again u r even more insignificant to me. I dont
see u testing beta.
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bodhitah

Apr 23, 2006, 11:15pm
With beta testers like you it's no wonder they're 6 months behind.

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ciena

Apr 23, 2006, 11:18pm
oh whys that? because we find things that need to be fixed in it? would u
rather have a program full of bugs that cause u to crash everytime u do
something?? think like u got a brain in your head for once. u got some real
stinkin thinkin going on there.
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lady murasaki

Apr 23, 2006, 11:32pm
Elysium! A talent like yours does NOT need 4.1 to be creative or help
others create beautiful environments.


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ciena

Apr 23, 2006, 11:36pm
i agree. he has wonderful plants and trees
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legion

Apr 24, 2006, 12:27am
>_< at this situation getting out of control.

Okay, boys and girls, stfu. I don't see the point of wanting to know
when this version will be released. I'm more personally interested in
what's going on behind the uber-secret laboratory's doors. Let me assure
you that release date is not something need to be concerned so much
about. What should we be concerned about is essentially the whole
going-on in the form of a summary, or progress report, or whatever that
is. I believe there are some examples that are left over at Activeworlds
Inc. official website as among the ancient relics from the days when
Roland Vilett was once the lead programmer back then in here. I
discovered some pages via Google searching of the website that contains
his progress reports on some versions, most likely 3.2 and 3.3 (not sure
though). In the conclusion, withholding the information as to going on
is a bad media handling and is ripe for a damage control disaster.
Anyway, I'm gonna leave at this for the nightr. Good evenin', ladies and
gentlemen.

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Respectfully Yours,
Legion
Chief Executive Officer and President of Operations
Circle of Peace Inc. Management

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the
problem." - Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States
(1981-1989)

legion

Apr 24, 2006, 12:29am
Whoa, we have a real riot going on here! Call for Riot Control Unit now!
:O

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Respectfully Yours,
Legion
Chief Executive Officer and President of Operations
Circle of Peace Inc. Management

"Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the
problem." - Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States
(1981-1989)

sweets

Apr 24, 2006, 12:42am
I would just be happy if they fixed the messed up contact lists....wait for
4.1? Hell, I am still waiting for 3.6 to work right.....I do think our
contact lists, should be top priority.

I tend to worry more about what I am paying for now than what I may or may
not have to pay for later

sweets

ciena

Apr 24, 2006, 9:18am
whats wrong with the contact list?
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sweets

Apr 24, 2006, 1:13pm
it does not refresh itself right....for about a year now. People go offline
and checkmarks remain...people come online and no checkmark
appears....terribly annoying

This I first reported to chrispeg when it first started happening and was
not believed. Until a GK also noticed it, then I was believed and informed
there would be an update to fix it.

The update came and went. When I advised chrispeg that it had not worked and
that the contact lists were still not refreshing, I was ignored again.. And
many many months later, it is still broken.

Manual refreshing helps (Login) but it is not exactly what we are paying
for. I like to know who is online or offline when it happens, not after the
fact.

And no, I am NOT the only one with this problem. Many of us have complained
to no use, seems their 4.1 is more important than fixing the big problem of
3.6

sweets

vera

Apr 24, 2006, 2:16pm
I am NOT a BETA TESTER..................OMG I've just discover that I am
insignificant.......and I thought I was someone........ rotfl.....I need the
list of the ppl that are doing the BETA TEST.....may I can hang around with them
and be significant:)))))))))))) Love you Ciena:)

[View Quote] > Well u can complain all u want but hows that working for ya? Do u stop to
> think maybe they have a good reason for not telling? Again they do not know
> when its gonna be realeased. When all the bigs r found and fixed. We just
> found a bug the other day ( this insignificant person and another one found
> it ). We still have to test the world servers yet too. Havent even started
> that yet, so chill out and wait like u r gonna have to do anyway. I may be
> insignificant to u but then again u r even more insignificant to me. I dont
> see u testing beta.
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alphabit phalpha

Apr 24, 2006, 2:32pm
Wow....I check into the ngs every once in a while nowadays...mostly for math
help...(Thanks to all you great mathematicians!)
Anyways...I am curious about this thread...
Ciena...are you designated as the beta spokesperson for beta testing now?
Have you been asked to come to the ngs and answer questions and update
folks?
If so, might I make a few suggestions?

1. You as a beta tester represent others that are sharing in this task.
2. You as a possible self designated speaker for beta testers are
representing a company also.
3. You as a beta tester are doing something for the company and the
community and should perform as a representative of each with mannerisms
that you would expect from a company and community.
4. You as a beta tester assisting a community should think about what you
are saying in a public newsgroup before saying it.

In all the posts I have read, I feel that the only one whining here is you.
Maybe a repeated question is getting on your nerves. Maybe you might want to
remind yourself of questions you have wanted answered in the past in a
respectful manner. And just maybe you might want to ask whomever heads up
beta testing today to enlighten you how to perform as a beta tester or ask
that they remove you from the program if it is that irritating to you.

I hope this gives you some insight as to what people accept and expect from
a person contributing to a community.

If you have any questions please let me know and I will attempt to help you
out:)

Sincerely,

AlphaBit Phalpha

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ltbrenton

Apr 24, 2006, 3:35pm
Wow...Exactly what I was thinking, only I couldn't quite put my finger
on what it was I was thinking until this post :) You tell 'er, Alpha xD


-LtBrenton

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ciena

Apr 24, 2006, 4:05pm
haha too funny :)
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ciena

Apr 24, 2006, 4:05pm
lmao! loves ya too Vera :)) hugsssss
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ciena

Apr 24, 2006, 4:05pm
no and no and no all i am saying is what anyone would if they could figure
it out thru common since is that awi wouldnt know when its comming out if
theres still bugs being found. duh! and i am just adressing the complaints
that i am sick of reading about and trying to get it thru their thick
heads... THEY DONT KNOW. I am speaking as a citizen not a beta tester.
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alphabit phalpha

Apr 24, 2006, 4:17pm
Well....all people have no common since...since common since doesn't even
exist!
If you are sick of reading something then why even reply???
Or better yet...why even read it if it is making you sick?
I surely understand about a person trying to get something through a
person's thick head:)

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ciena

Apr 24, 2006, 4:23pm
lol well i refuse to fight about this say what u want call me what u want if
it makes u happy :))
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ciena

Apr 24, 2006, 4:23pm
oh i forgot hugsssssss
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alphabit phalpha

Apr 24, 2006, 4:28pm
LOL...hugggs back at ya:)

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elysium

Apr 24, 2006, 5:48pm
ok folks youve taken eye off ball as usual instead of fighting amounst
ourselves.
should be focusing on the poor PR of AW managment
all respect for you Ciena we all love AW and im sure programmers are working
hard at it
but do you really think we have been informed with progress as we should?
all we have got is a whindup from ENZO about it
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