Why no 3.6 Beta for general community??? (Community)

Why no 3.6 Beta for general community??? // Community

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lady nighthawk

Jul 7, 2004, 11:18pm
I have some problems with it....

1) I'm continually loading the world that I've already loaded. Load n load n
load? Is their a problem with caching?

2) Seqs stop all of a sudden and for no apparent reason, the only way I can
correct it is to reboot browser, and then after awhile it happens again.

3) MP3 and other songs are intermittent at best, they no longer play
smoothly like they use to. Choopy music is no fun to listen to.

4) Can you please open beta group to further discuss these issues and allow
some time for the general community to comment? Personally I asked a few of
you AWI owners to add me to beta, you didn't ... I don't understand why 3.6
is considered final release when only a handful have tested it. I could
access beta group for one day (yesterday) but now I'm off again?

I'm back on 3.5 (532) until I get some answers...

LNH



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swe

Jul 7, 2004, 11:30pm
omg O_O that was almost a normal post! WTG! ^_^

-SWE

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tengel

Jul 8, 2004, 9:11am
[View Quote] World features can have the object refresh on to low value, if so that will
happend.


> 2) Seqs stop all of a sudden and for no apparent reason, the only way I
can
> correct it is to reboot browser, and then after awhile it happens again.

Try to delete your cache

> 3) MP3 and other songs are intermittent at best, they no longer play
> smoothly like they use to. Choopy music is no fun to listen to.

Do you have your AGP driver installed?

> 4) Can you please open beta group to further discuss these issues and
allow
> some time for the general community to comment? Personally I asked a few
of
> you AWI owners to add me to beta, you didn't ... I don't understand why
3.6
> is considered final release when only a handful have tested it. I could
> access beta group for one day (yesterday) but now I'm off again?
>
> I'm back on 3.5 (532) until I get some answers...
>
> LNH

Beta is fininish, as 3.6 is released.

rossyboy

Jul 8, 2004, 10:02am
Then the beta testers sucked obviously.

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xelag

Jul 8, 2004, 12:36pm
Bug reports can be sent to beta at activeworlds.com, even if AWI calls
this release final. For AWI to be able to replicate the bug, computer
and graphic card specs ought to be included, Also, details like where
can they observe the bug, etc, should also be sent.

Alex

On 7 Jul 2004 21:18:01 -0400, "lady nighthawk"
[View Quote] >I have some problems with it....
>
>1) I'm continually loading the world that I've already loaded. Load n load n
>load? Is their a problem with caching?
>
>2) Seqs stop all of a sudden and for no apparent reason, the only way I can
>correct it is to reboot browser, and then after awhile it happens again.
>
>3) MP3 and other songs are intermittent at best, they no longer play
>smoothly like they use to. Choopy music is no fun to listen to.
>
>4) Can you please open beta group to further discuss these issues and allow
>some time for the general community to comment? Personally I asked a few of
>you AWI owners to add me to beta, you didn't ... I don't understand why 3.6
>is considered final release when only a handful have tested it. I could
>access beta group for one day (yesterday) but now I'm off again?
>
>I'm back on 3.5 (532) until I get some answers...
>
>LNH

xelag

Jul 8, 2004, 12:44pm
On 7 Jul 2004 21:18:01 -0400, "lady nighthawk"
[View Quote] >I have some problems with it....
>
>1) I'm continually loading the world that I've already loaded. Load n load n
>load? Is their a problem with caching?

This happens to me too and is very annoying, because (and that has
been since I have the ATI Radeon card) every time the browser
re-downloads the objects, it also messes up the rendering permanently,
and I get flying triangles and need to reboot the computer. The
browser is not respecting the object refresh value.

>2) Seqs stop all of a sudden and for no apparent reason, the only way I can
>correct it is to reboot browser, and then after awhile it happens again.

I haven't noticed this one, at least not more often than before.

>3) MP3 and other songs are intermittent at best, they no longer play
>smoothly like they use to. Choopy music is no fun to listen to.

Also not noticed, but I have noticed, and reported, that long media
files are not working smoothly (they interrupt and start recaching),
this may very well be related.

>4) Can you please open beta group to further discuss these issues and allow
>some time for the general community to comment? Personally I asked a few of
>you AWI owners to add me to beta, you didn't ... I don't understand why 3.6
>is considered final release when only a handful have tested it. I could
>access beta group for one day (yesterday) but now I'm off again?
>
>I'm back on 3.5 (532) until I get some answers...
>
>LNH

tengel

Jul 8, 2004, 12:57pm
Well playing mp3 can be done 2 ways, if create sound have been use, you
shouldt get problem with playing this song, as the mp3 does not playing
before it is downloaded local.
And it is this way i think LN have problem with, and this was something I
notes i did have also, when AGP driver was not installed. Even midi was
playing crap.

Create Media as you point to Xelag, can have that problem as you mention,
but wouldt this be because, what you have dl of streaming is finish to play
and it trys to get the rest? So far I have not get this problem when
playing audios.


Tengel


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ciena

Jul 8, 2004, 2:51pm
i have noticed that the avatar freezes at the end of the seq. has been doing
that for a long long time. over a year and it still does that. and i also
have had to dl everything again in my worlds. also a lot of times i have to
wait for the terrain to come in.
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chrispeg

Jul 8, 2004, 3:24pm
Have you set a limit in the Disk Usage settings of the browser ?

Chris

"ciena" <nikona at comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:40ed7b8c at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> i have noticed that the avatar freezes at the end of the seq. has been
doing
> that for a long long time. over a year and it still does that. and i also
> have had to dl everything again in my worlds. also a lot of times i have
to
> wait for the terrain to come in.
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ciena

Jul 8, 2004, 3:51pm
i have no limit checked
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lady nighthawk

Jul 8, 2004, 6:11pm
My world's refresh is on the standard 10080

I have not made any changes to my computer ... I simply allowed 3.6 to
install ... it's that version and time will prove it.

LNH

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lady nighthawk

Jul 8, 2004, 6:12pm
I've contacted that email ... no replies, as I mentioned previously.

LNH


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lady nighthawk

Jul 8, 2004, 6:14pm
Again, I have not made any changes to my world so the songs should play as
they always have. The only diff is I'm using 3.6!

LNH


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lady nighthawk

Jul 8, 2004, 6:15pm
No I have both sound & pix to unlimited, and I had to uncheck *delete files*
.... I manually delete my cache now.

LNH



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lady nighthawk

Jul 8, 2004, 6:17pm
The problem isn't the handful of testers, the problem is that 3.6 didn't go
into open beta, and I still cannot get into beta to post my problems. Why
have a beta group if it's only open for a few? I'm not the first to complain
about this and I'll be I won't be the last! Alpha testing is for the few ...
beta testing is for the masses!

LNH



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kf

Jul 9, 2004, 8:34am
To be added: I have not noticed is with the beta versions, but the final
version now let me fall through floors again very often (to fix: leave
the world and come back and the floor is solid again).

This fall-through-bug was introduced with V3.3 and had never been fixed
in a final version since.




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mauz

Jul 11, 2004, 12:19pm
[View Quote] Maybe you could download 3.6 from their webpage and install it
into a new folder. (Remember to save the telegram and teleport files.)

> 2) Seqs stop all of a sudden and for no apparent reason

In all the worlds? I heard there are still buggy seq files around.
Do you have Transform&Lighting checked in Video options?

> I don't understand why 3.6
> is considered final release when only a handful have tested it

I don't know why they skipped the public beta phase;
maybe because 3.6 is really about just one new command,
so they thought they can handle bug reports through
the normal channels and possibly release minor patches later.
Alpha testing is just for the geeks and other masochists anyway,
because in that stage the browser is still crashingly buggy.

Kudos to chrispeg and other programmers and contributors,
I think they did a great job in such a short time :)

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lady nighthawk

Jul 11, 2004, 3:51pm
Is there a difference in between the upgrade and the download version? I've
not heard? Yes I have T&L checked. I still think this version should be
tested by the masses, I'm not the only one having issues.

LNH



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xelag

Jul 11, 2004, 8:46pm
Lady Nighthawk,

The "masses" can still test it, and will. Whether it is called open
beta or not does not make much difference, it's all in a name: in both
cases, the way is to send a full report to beta at activeworlds.com

Alex

On 11 Jul 2004 13:51:18 -0400, "lady nighthawk"
[View Quote] >Is there a difference in between the upgrade and the download version? I've
>not heard? Yes I have T&L checked. I still think this version should be
>tested by the masses, I'm not the only one having issues.
>
>LNH

lady nighthawk

Jul 12, 2004, 1:50am
Alex there is no reply to that email. One does not know if it has been
received or acknowledged. Open beta is what you do before you do a *full
release*.

LNH



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eep

Jul 12, 2004, 2:17am
Perhaps the current crop of beta testers suck? ;)

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mauz

Jul 12, 2004, 7:21am
[View Quote] Yes I cannot see how open beta would be any different than open release:
anybody can download it (or not if they don't want to), send bug reports,
and then they release patches if needed.

Now closed beta would be different, one where they announce that
they are accepting applications, choose a diverse bunch of testers,
and then the reports and comments must be posted to the beta newsgroup
for all the testers to see.

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eep

Jul 12, 2004, 9:28am
Then if open beta, the beta newsgroup should be open to all...

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lady nighthawk

Jul 12, 2004, 7:40pm
Exactly Eep ... what is the point of a beta NG if only the *choice users*
can access it??? Since I get no replies to my email to beta at then I have no
idea if they got it or not. Also, why should we email if we have a beta NG?
It's nice to be able to see that others are having the same issues as you,
and now and then AWI does answer posts. If their policy on using the beta NG
has changed it would be nice to know that!? If I'm not allowed to use it
(beta NG) then I might as well remove it right?

LNH


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vera

Jul 12, 2004, 8:41pm
LOL eep:)

[View Quote] > Perhaps the current crop of beta testers suck? ;)
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eep

Jul 12, 2004, 10:08pm
Indeed...but this kind of mentality from COF/AWCI/AWC/AWI/whatever isn't new, unfortunately...

http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/history.html

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e n z o

Jul 13, 2004, 5:44pm
I don't understand.

The beta is over and we are in release. If there are bugs/issues with 3.6
they are no longer BETA problems. Please send an email to
support at activeworlds.com or beta at activeworlds.com and report your problem.
If you want to be on the NEXT beta send an email to beta at activeworlds.com
You will most likely not get an answer as currently we are in alpha with no
beta release date.

As to the "history" page, I guess the saying "History is written by the
victors" must no longer be pertinent. I find A LOT of discrepencies between
the events Eep reports and events as they actually occured (and I should
hope I could spot em since I was there) Most of what I read there seems
like someone had a very hazy veiw through a fogged up window of something
happening down the street - and then was deadset on giving an eyewitness
account. Also, I would have expected "history" to be a little more
objective and not include so much "opinion".


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eep

Jul 13, 2004, 6:05pm
[View Quote] I think the point is that the 3.6 beta wasn't beta tested well enough. I don't know; I wasn't around much so I can't say for sure how many beta testers there were.

> As to the "history" page, I guess the saying "History is written by the
> victors" must no longer be pertinent. I find A LOT of discrepencies between
> the events Eep reports and events as they actually occured (and I should
> hope I could spot em since I was there)

Care to elaborate on the discrepencies? I'll gladly include your version of the events! :)

> Most of what I read there seems
> like someone had a very hazy veiw through a fogged up window of something
> happening down the street - and then was deadset on giving an eyewitness
> account.

I wrote it how I experienced it... <shrug>

> Also, I would have expected "history" to be a little more
> objective and not include so much "opinion".

Well, there IS a disclaimer. ;)

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xelag

Jul 13, 2004, 7:12pm
LNH,

I find the disrespectful attitude towards the beta testers disgusting,
and I am very annoyed. I expect that from Eep (he has always done
that, I don't understand why he is allowed back in to do the same all
over again), not from you. We have done our best and spent a lot of
our time to help AWI enable a new feature. There will always be bugs,
and these can only be solved by proper bug reports. AWI does not have
to reply to the bug reports (even if that annoys us, and it does annoy
me too), it is their product, being a beta tester is no fun, and
certainly no acquired right of yours or of mine. I was banned by Bill
Hoover from the 3.5 alpha/beta testing until the last week before it
became public. His prerrogative.

Please stop accusing us, we were asked to solve many technical
problems. Take your frustrations elsewhere, as I try to do too. From
Eep I do not expect him to stop throwing crap, he has always been
attacking others, including the existance of bots (my xelagot would
not exist if I had followed his attacks). I did not expect that from
you.

Alex

On 12 Jul 2004 17:40:43 -0400, "lady nighthawk"
[View Quote] >Exactly Eep ... what is the point of a beta NG if only the *choice users*
>can access it??? Since I get no replies to my email to beta at then I have no
>idea if they got it or not. Also, why should we email if we have a beta NG?
>It's nice to be able to see that others are having the same issues as you,
>and now and then AWI does answer posts. If their policy on using the beta NG
>has changed it would be nice to know that!? If I'm not allowed to use it
>(beta NG) then I might as well remove it right?
>
>LNH

lady nighthawk

Jul 13, 2004, 7:20pm
*Mutes self*

LNH



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