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Mar 31, 2002, 9:16pm

eh..excuse the double post

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Mar 31, 2002, 9:25pm

BTW insanity...If you ever want to lie to me on the phone. let me know I
will give you a call down in texas there. Rude to call my former webhoster.
but he gave me your number anyways just in case I need it, but unlike you I
dont post personal info.

-DM
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Mar 31, 2002, 9:43pm

::rolleyes::

[View Quote] Uhh... what property was stolen? *If* any files were copied because of this
password leak, the originals are still in place.

> As you can see from some of the messages here, the child is attempting to
find a new home for the file.

Since you keep referring to him as "the child", do you think a criminal
trial would go very far? Since this is a matter of intellectual property,
people might have more success if they filed a civil suit.

> It is strongly suggest that you use a password at least 18 in length,
> upper/lower case along with characters to help slow these people who think
> hacking is fun.

Running a brute-force password guessing program on a local file is not
hacking.


-Agent1

PS - Yes, I said I was leaving. The newsgroups seem to be slightly more sane
now, however.

Apr 1, 2002, 1:17am

In the grand scheme of things here..... considering how many decent ppl
would be hurt by this, I do believe most would agree with me in saying that
what you..... ONE person believes, is irrelevant.....

I for one am glad he posted this info..... tho I think it was unwise to post
the list of ACTUAL passwords..... that wasn't necessary.... and could
potentially harm some who OWN those OP paths, and may have not seen this yet
:O(

And, Yes.... I can also confirm this is not a hoax...... as one of the
worlds listed belongs to a close friend and the PW was correct..... :O(
fortunately it was changed quite some time ago......

Thank you Strike...... Hope You contacted those world owners..
JB

Apr 1, 2002, 5:53am

In article <3ca79826 at server1.Activeworlds.com>, baronjutter at shaw.ca
says...
> Yay my world isn't in the list, that means it's a-ok ?
>
> I've never really had any security problems. Someone takes a texture I ask
> them not to, and as soon as the option of taking it to awcom comes up they
> always just do the right thing. Then later I just tell them if they want
> something ask, and then they get it.
>
> I guess I'm just living in happy peace bunny friendship land...


WOO WOO! Hi there, neighbor :-) I live in Happy Peace Bunny Friendship
Land too! I am on Loving Lane, where abouts is your place?

I'm sorry but I am not changing my password to make a couple of kids
happy that they freaked out a bunch of world owners by pretending to have
hacked their passwords. You have been found out kids, so why don't you
call a few of your neighbors and ask them if their refrigerator is
running and suggest that they catch it?

Bruce, I respect your opinion but I think this whole thread was the
genius of 2 kids who wanted 15 minutes of fame.


Wings0nite

Apr 1, 2002, 5:54am

Um... I don't think filmkr's post warranted such an attack. Hacking or
not, it's still illegal.

SW Chris.

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Apr 1, 2002, 5:57am

Better double check with andras, first, Wings0nite. He is thought to have
confirmed this, since he is a co-owner of Storage world, one of the worlds
that was supposedly cracked.

SW Chris

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Apr 1, 2002, 7:52am

*grins at wings* I have to agree I belive it was all blown out of proportion
as well. Barsoom has it's password, and I will be hornswaggled if I am going
to spend another 2 weeks uploading files just to change it unless I "have"
to.

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Apr 1, 2002, 9:51am

Wings, I can only speak for myself, but Andras has also confirmed this is
NOT a hoax I'd have to say that I do believe he is probably one of the
single most trusted and respected individuals IN activeworlds..... And also
a very thorough man.... he would not say so unless it was a true and proven
fact :O(

One of the worlds on that list belongs to a very close friend and the
listed PW was indeed the correct one....... Fortunately she had changed the
PW months ago after a discussion we had concerning a totally unrelated
matter, so apparently whomever is doing or had done this, has been at it
for some time :O( as the PW on the list is months old.......

I'd suggest if you have any custom Av's or objects on your path, you
reconsider your decision and repassword them..... It truly is a bit of an
undertaking for someone with a large OP, but are the alternatives acceptable
?? Also is it fair to the modelers who may have made any of the customs,
for their work to remain unprotected, for any rotten bag of garbage to help
themselves to ? :O(

Best I can offer is that Andras' MultiZip program will rezip and PW files in
HUGE batches.... I've used it and it works well......
http://andras.net/tools.html#multizip Truly a saving grace in this
situation.....

Best of luck,
JB

Apr 1, 2002, 10:00am

Do you realize that by being so aloof and disbelieving of this situation in
a public post, You may well be inviting this louse, just to satisfy his own
sadistic immoral urges, to crack YOUR pw now, just to be a Prick ?? Pardon
my language....

Sometimes best to just quietly go about your business and not draw attention
to yourself........

of course, only my opinion
JB

Apr 1, 2002, 11:42am

Since when is posting an opinion an "attack"? I didn't say anything about
filmkr, just the content of his post.

-Agent1

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Apr 1, 2002, 4:36pm

It isn't a hoax.

As the owner of Axis, the passwords posted yesterday (now removed I
believe), had Axis in the list.. the password was indeed correct. The
password is outdated now of course, as the password is a month old. I have
since closed the world and I am changeing things. Eventually I hope to have
a better and more secure way of protecting my objects outside the
activeworlds browser.
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Apr 1, 2002, 4:59pm

[View Quote] Heh, must be an old list: Hole does not even use object password anymore,
ever since a hacker convinced us that they cannot be protected in AW anyway
(he wasn't using a zip password cracker).

--
Mauz
http://mauz.info

Apr 1, 2002, 6:46pm

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] Being someone who owns a 3DHP, I have but ONE question to ask....

Just WHO ARE YOU to tell US what has been compromised or corrupted???

Your post leads ME to believe that YOU are the source of the problem
(assuming there *is* one).

So like Jeremy said, BEFORE you go SPAMMING the newsgroups with your crap,
at least make sure its at least *reasonably* intelligent.

Patrick Cook
Mayor - City Of Hamsterville
Owner - Pub102X
pchamster at msn.com
Denver, Colorado
http://home.talkcity.com/MinivanAveAve/patrick32/

P.S. ANY efforts to spam me via email WILL result in your IP being blocked
from my box and ANY efforts to spam me via my site guestbook WILL result in
your entry being DELETED.

Apr 1, 2002, 6:57pm

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] Either that or a self-admitting (and not to mentiion ARROGANT) computer
hacker.

Strike, you REALLY have a LOT of nerve boasting like that in public (that is
ASSUMING you're telling us the truth).

Patrick

Apr 1, 2002, 6:59pm

LOL! he's not a hacker, he used a program to cause damage, that's a script
kiddie/cracker.

I believe script kiddie fits him best.

--Bowen--

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Apr 1, 2002, 7:17pm

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] While I didn't perceive Agent1's post to be an attack, I *do* however stand
duly corrected that it was DarkMod and NOT Strike Rapier who was the
pompant, arrogant little troll that he/she is and therefore hope he/she gets
the book thrown at him/her.

It might also explain why I saw an avatar going up (from point blank viewing
range I might add) even though the whisper field remained grey and it might
also explain all the attempts to deface the Hamsterville Water Treatment
Facility build I was working on at the time too. However though, I can't
prove this, but it is nonetheless a thought. :-)

Luckily Building Inspector stepped in and deleted those objects as it was
enchroachment.

Just my $.02 worth....Cheers :-)

Patrick

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Apr 1, 2002, 7:47pm

Hi everyone:

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Dark Mole, you're either an INCREDIBLY pathological liar (which *I* think
you are) or someone hacked in your computer (which I doubt ever happened)
and posted the following mesage....

=====BEGIN PASTED MESSAGE=====
[View Quote] Mind you, the above was pulled from the archives of the Community NG (where
I'm reading this thread from) and while I don't typically side with Filmkr
as I'm sure its quite clear that he and I don't see eye to eye, I'm afraid I
have no choice this time. You *did* put yourself in this mess and therefore
have NO ONE to blame but YOURSELF!!!

Secondly, you even had the AUDACITY to GO PUBLIC with this. No one else did
this but YOU!!! And you're right, going public with the information you did
WOULD be like strolling into an IRC Chat Room (or AW GZ with a PK on hand
for those who prefer 3D) and typing www.warez.com because that is EXACTLY
what you did (except you used the NGs rather than AW GZ or an IRC channel
because you KNEW that getting on AW GZ or an IRC channel on oh say DalNet
would get kicked and banned).

With that said Mod, do us ALL a favor. GO AWAY!!!

Patrick

Apr 1, 2002, 9:00pm

Well it is well known that you don't like him. I guess I messed up. Sorry.

SW Chris

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Apr 1, 2002, 9:26pm

If you actually read the posts, you would know that Strike wasn't the
one that got all the passwords for the different OPs. How 'bout you *read*
next time?

Jey

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Apr 1, 2002, 10:25pm

the fuck u on bout? someone tries to warn u that someone has access to ur
the objects u have worked hard to make, and this is how u repay him?
flamming him? u think he would loose anything if all ur objects get stolen
and used somewhere else? no! hes doing this to help u lot! and this is how u
thanx him... ungratful bunch of.......
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Apr 2, 2002, 12:54am

Chuck's Party in disguise. :)

SW Chris

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Apr 2, 2002, 2:20am

Hi everyone:

[View Quote] Like I said before, I *misread* the earlier posts regarding Strike being the
alleged hacker. I *do* apologize for that.

However OTOH, I have NO sympathy for DarkMod. He/She publicly (and
seemingly quite proudly) admitted to the crime IMO.

Chris, am I not correct on this assessment???

Patrick

Apr 2, 2002, 5:11am

um, yeah. You're both right, btw. :)

SW Chris

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Apr 2, 2002, 3:40pm

Sorry about including the list of PW's on my reply BTW. Outlook express
usualy kills the message its replying too if its like that.

- Mark

Apr 2, 2002, 5:13pm

ive asked for the above message to be removed due to em accidently keeping
the details of the message i was replying to.

Thanks tom :)

- Mark
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Apr 23, 2002, 1:10pm

Strike has been in AW for a long time and has built up a reputation that
deserves respect.

He is one of those who will help those in need to the highest degree..,

Strike is kind, compassionate, and cares about AW and those who are in
it..

If he receives inside info, Listen to him.. He Knows!! Trust him!!

I've never seen anyone flame Strike before and it really bothers me to
think that anyone would..


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Apr 23, 2002, 1:24pm

Ouchies!! *LOL* Sorry about that cross post... I should sleep afew hours
before I jump into the newsies..


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May 8, 2002, 4:55pm

If Outlook Express keeps messing up, why not get another newsreader?

[View Quote] >Sorry about including the list of PW's on my reply BTW. Outlook express
>usualy kills the message its replying too if its like that.
>
>- Mark
>
>

May 8, 2002, 5:01pm

Rossy, check the dates of YOUR posts as well before you try making smart
comments :)

- Mark

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