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linn ironhead@digitalpassage(dot)com // User Search

You may have noticed...

Feb 11, 2003, 1:40am

I want them to go see ALL the special places in alpha and be able to
"shop" copy and paste shopping you know ? sigh

>
>

You may have noticed...

Feb 11, 2003, 4:58pm

im talking about giving us back Alpha but thanks for your suggestions
:-)

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I think if you look at the number of worlds and cits ... gone now
.....because of this .... or partly at least, it proves my point and smut is
not just a tourist thing many cits do the same thing I have had a lot
cleared out of Alpha myself
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The Problem With Tourists

Feb 12, 2003, 12:50am

how do you know its not a cit logged in as a tourist?
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The Problem With Tourists

Feb 12, 2003, 1:26am

ahh then we are talking bout the tourist "mode" not the tourists themselves
big difference if stated like that
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The Problem With Tourists

Feb 12, 2003, 2:21am

they are or should I say they were the life line to aw no tourists no
new cits
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The Problem With Tourists

Feb 12, 2003, 5:50pm

I agree that all nudity isn't porn but url s in worlds to porn sites
would need to be cleaned up too but wait didn't SOMEONE give them an
award for just that this is why AW (well another reason) is going
downhill AW has rules but like some other organization they either don't
enforce them or they change them to suit the occasion just plain bad
business

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The Problem With Tourists

Feb 12, 2003, 11:59pm

if this decision "keeps the lights on" why are cit numbers and worlds
dropping like flies ? no new faces ??? ahhh those were the tourists LOL

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question?

Feb 12, 2003, 1:09am

Why are ppl spending all this time for a new version of AW when there seems
to be nothing done about the one we have? If this is the way its done then
we will never have one that doesn't have problems? just wondering :-)

question?

Feb 12, 2003, 1:19am

oh yes I know that im talking about the aw version we have and from
all I have heard the NewAW is just like OW been there didn't like the
virtual money we have ppl who are too high of pixelpower now LOL if you
add money to that whew no way im going to be a part of that

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question?

Feb 12, 2003, 2:20am

well you might have a point there :-)

question?

Feb 12, 2003, 9:36am

trained staff??? explain this?

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"wizard myrddin" <wizard at rdescape.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3e4a05d0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> All this does is to make other public worlds even more empty then they are
> becoming, once the lure of increasing the status of the person in
introduced
> into the equations the divisions appear. A two tier activeworlds.
>
> As you have said in aw their is some that "Pixel Power" seems to install
in
> them some demented concept of being better them any other member.
>
> As Factor has said the worlds allready in aw are becomming ghost worlds,
> why? no tourists?
>
> The arguments regarding "Porn" and tourists is the most hole ridden excuse
> Ive heard off, You dont stand in judgment of a entier population of people
> because of one or two, and a name that anyone can use at that. I think
> History has learnt us that. I've seen in alphaworld more porn placed by
> members than tourists.
>
> No matter how you look upon there is a rot setting in aw that is driving
> people away, once prices went up the customer wanted a better service to
be
> there, is it there? no I am still waiting for a reponse to a support
> question I sent 5 weeks ago.
>
> I was even told by a person in aw.corp (at that time) that the newsgroups
> had nothing to do with aw.corp. What kind of bullshit are aw staff trained
> to tell people. Nothing like insulting the intelligence.
>
> When prices rocketed people demand service and something better, if you
dont
> produce it, you lose them. AW3.4 should have been here years ago instead
of
> waiting for the competition to be banging at the door. or is this some
ploy
> to run aw into the ground and bankruptcy in order that company debts can
be
> left with the name, then reapear under yet another name.
>
> I often see as I have mentioned before in other threads people boasting
that
> a event attracted over XXX people, have a look at see what people,
tourists
> that's who. Lesson to be learnt here
>
> Its about time aw.inc woke up to the fact unless they take the bull by the
> horns its going to be gone as in prevous years people came to aw by word
of
> mouth and reconmendations from people, and great stories of what you can
do
> in aw. Not any more as to see any of these great things you have to part
> with da money. World owners are been asked to part with money to allow a
> tourist in their world, How do tourists know what worlds to visit? ask a
> gatekeeper who tells them to go to mauz.info.
>
> I never saw anything on the aw web site that said, In order to tell
tourists
> you are tourist enabled you must tell Mauz (no offence Mauz)
>
> All this should be on the AW.Inc web site if they could afford a web
> designer.
>
> If a apple has a roten part you cut it out, not let it grow till the total
> apple has rotted.
>
>
>
> "linn" <ironhead at digitalpassage(dot)com> wrote in message
> news:3e49bd49 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
from
the
> you
>
>
>

question?

Feb 12, 2003, 9:43am

from what im being told ppl "represent" AW are just plain ppl no training
and I think this is beginning to show yep I DO!

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question?

Feb 12, 2003, 2:39pm

so does this mean there is no answer to the original question here ???

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question?

Feb 12, 2003, 11:41pm

I have been waiting for someone to ask that here they for starters
1...fix it so we don't crash on t porting 2...fix it so the avs always are
able to use seqs 3....fix it so when we block a person they cant gram us
and then there was the day we all went in and found aw had blocked us
without us doing it 4...fix it so when we block we don't have to keep that
person in our list 5... upon entry or t port aw sometimes crashes and when
this happens all cache is zapped from the world you are in at the time 6...
fix it so when we click on a url it doesn't crash AW 7.....sometimes there
is a thing we call AW memory loss make an obj and aw cant remember to
leave it there its vanishes for a few minutes 8....at times the ftp or
OP's from several worlds not just mine gets stuck in "start" ill end
here :-) but there is more
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question?

Feb 12, 2003, 11:54pm

oh yes I am sure that one of the ways to bring life back to alpha and aw as
a whole is to allow tourists back in some ppl just cant afford it but
perhaps they fall in love with it and find a way just think of the ppl
s memories builds homes etc and they cant even go see them much less
build on them think of the ppl and THEN the software :-)

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question?

Feb 13, 2003, 5:46pm

1. Crashing on Tport... what version? Is this a beta bug?>>>version 3.3
build 419

2. Can you specify what avs can't use seqs? >>>> most any av in any world at
times has this problem

3. Currently I can block telegrams from specific people... is this not
working or am I not understanding>>> I went to aw and found 7 of my contacts
blocked from my grams we emailed each other and they found the same thing
we re entered and it was then ok not sure why that happened but if you
don't have the email ppl just think you are not talking to them

4. Good idea, maybe a 3.5 feature?

5. Probably a function of the OS

6. Not sure I understand>>> when someone send a url and I click it within aw
the browser crashes most of the time

7. Hmmm, are you talking about a browser that has a slow connection? Or is
this in Alpha? Does the object ever appear?>>>> we thought it was our
server or our connections but then after checking in other worlds found the
same problem yes it does appear but takes sometimes 10 minutes

8. Not sure I understand this one either... get stuck in start?>>>> the lil
download box that shows the unpacking? it sets in "start" and does nothing
at times this is several different worlds too

thanks for listening :-)

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question?

Feb 13, 2003, 7:57pm

thanks :-)

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Valentine's Day Sweetheart Swings BluPearl World

Feb 12, 2003, 2:27am

is there and "age" limit OS oh yes I heard you represent AW tell me this
is not true

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Vandalism and the Dying off of AW

Feb 12, 2003, 5:53pm

good ideas but tourists still need free reign as we all know its tourists
AND cits as tourists so it cant be stopped just cleaned up in a timely
fashion

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"rowey" <rowey22 at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e4a9ec4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Ill begin by starting on the vandalism, while I had the small interest of
CT
> builder for A!!CT my colleagues and I also came across these people who
are
> vandalizing, yes they are cits, their citnumber not sure, name, no idea,
> but the fact is they are using a process of masking their IP address to
> avoid the banning via this method, in addition this "masking" effect also
> disguises their Computer ID, so you cannot ban them that way either.
>
> Now, the "persons", 2 of them do also come in under tourist ID's and
delete
> tourist builds and place rather lame porn around the area (small things
> amuse small minds), now with this in mind, while we as Moderators and rule
> abiding citizens and tourists do our best to minimize the effect of such
> events, they will continue to happen until AW or one of you networking
> engineers out there, can work out how to gain the real ip of the offenders
> through its mask. I've consulted several network engineers including my
> college teachers, whom also do not know how the IP is masked outside the
IP
> range of the persons ISP.
>
> This , while unfortunate will continue until we can collectively work out
an
> idea of how to stop it, now while peer pressure might seem the best
solution
> by some to this problem, it would also be fruitless Id fear as the more
you
> provoke these people the more it will continue. I would suggest that we
> simply ignore these events, clean the mess made, reinstall the tourist
> builds deleted and just keep at it, these kids will grow bored of doing it
> eventually, then we can get on with our interests.
>
> As for the state AW's is in, its becoming very disheartening, I've been on
> for well over a year now and seen it slowly dying off. This didn't bother
me
> so much when all I did was build, but once I assumed the role of Caretaker
> for A!!CT you really begin to notice the full effect of no one being
around,
> and very much notice the populace of other worlds.
>
> I agree with a previous Post about why is AW working on a New3.4 when the
> old one can hardly stay alive, and considering the amount of bad feedback
> I've been getting from the beta testers, I fear the end is nigh. I'm one
who
> comes to build, the social interaction is a distant second, but why bother
> building if no ones there to see it. I had the privilege of location
> building, meaning inside the p20 of A!!CT and I was able to have my builds
> seen, however, we are all not as lucky, we endeavored to place teleports
to
> builds but still, the best intentions are worthless if they are un-used.
>
> Awgate is a sad depressing place to see also, and personally, when I first
> arrived, found the continuous scrolling of "advice" by the "gk's" to be
> excessively confusing and when I asked the GK on duty at the time (who
will
> remain nameless) if I could get a list of instructions, she began
scrolling
> again, when I asked for a URL, I was responded to by ,"What's a URL?".
After
> pulling my hair out trying to learn the AW Browser I still found it
> difficult to find immediate help so I could learn at a faster rate.
>
> Tourists arrive at Awgate, new, fresh keen to have a look around, click on
> things, maybe build their first little masterpiece, they want help, and
its
> not available without it being forced down their throats by a GK why is
> going insane with the mouse button. Awgate needs to be revamped, new
ideas,
> freshen the place up, make it something worth looking at, not a place you
> cant wait to leave. Place instructions at Awgate itself, off in a corner
> somewhere where signs can inform a newbie tourist where to find immediate
> help, have a GK there, who is assigned to specifically help tourists in
the
> orientation area. This area should be out of range from GZ, so it
minimizes
> the confusion to the newbies. AW cannot rely on people being amazed at
> seeing 3d avatars, because alot of us have seen them before, there nothing
> new about them, but the AW building aspects and atmosphere is new, its
good,
> but the management of AwGate specifically is poor and a major downer for
the
> whole experience of being in AW. (*I will say that some Gk's at Awgate are
> good and do try very hard, for which I'm sure we are all grateful, its
just
> a few bad bananas spoil the whole bunch*)
>
> AW is home, in more ways than one to a few of us, I've seen just about
every
> world in AW at one time or another some good, some bad, some bloody ugly,
> but to those who built them, have stayed up endless nights by the glow of
> our monitor, they are OUR masterpieces, they are something we sit back and
> can say, I built that, and I'm bloody well proud of it. While we, the
> citizens and tourists are the lifeblood of AW, we DO try our hardest to
> bring new objects to our respective OP's we do try to find new ways to
bring
> in tourists, to find a niche that will set the world we call our home
apart
> from the others, but it will continue to remain a fruitless mission if AW
> doesn't pick its heels up. To JP and Rick, we do love this product you
have
> made for us to use and enjoy, but it needs some serious overhauling to
bring
> life back into it, New3.4 is not the solution, personally, I'm not
> interested in what New3.4 might or might not bring. Your solution is in
the
> presentation, show newbies that yeah, AW looks like a really nice place to
> kill my Sunday afternoon off, because ALL of us who have been here for a
> prolonged period of time, know full well its addictive qualities, this is
> what makes AW unique, but its let down by its Entrance Point ( AWgate),
its
> let down by its newbie help, its let down by callus fools who have found
> the flaw in the AW browsers ability to see through a masked IP and the
fools
> who deliberately destroy tourist builds..
>
> The few of us who have remained loyal supporters or AW are losing a
> proportional interest in this place, I personally don't want to bring
> newbies here, because I know hey will more than likely lose interest and
Ill
> have wasted several hours teaching them how to build etc, and I know on
this
> point, I'm not alone.
>
> Solutions......
>
> Put New3.4 on hold, fix what's existing
> Update AwGate and review re-screen Gk's, perhaps even run a survey on
> opinions of the GK on duty, time log them whatever and cross reference.
> Build a Newbie Orientation area at AWgate away from listening range of GZ
> and appoint respected cits to the position, atleast a signed area to help.
> Keep AW locked away from tourists ( Only for the reason it effects
privately
> owned worlds, whom pay substantial amounts of money for the privilege)
>
> For the worlds owned by AW that do allow tourists, such as AWTeen etc,
start
> some kind of back up system for the world, so in the event of wide spread
> vandalism, the world can be restored to the pre-vandalized state.
>
> These are just a couple of ideas that I think might help, but the main
> source of advertising AW relies on, is you and I, the dedicated supporters
> telling our friends, well , AW make it worth talking about and you will
find
> that within a few months, we can ALL collectively get AW back to a place
to
> be proud of.
>
> I have attached a few screenshots of my Builds for those whom have not
been
> to A!!CT lately, I haven't included a screenshot of A!!CT GZ Tower I built
> (*with some assistance from Defiance*), its something that should be seen
> first hand =). Other builds of mine in A!!CT include the Bot Center (not
> shown)
>
> For those who do know me from A!!CT, I quit as CT Moderator because of a
few
> select morons (who shall remain nameless) and will remain so until the
> solution is rectified. So all the new things I was planning on introducing
> will remain on hold. Whitestar introduced the VoiceChat which we both had
> been working on, but other than that, he will not be introducing any more
of
> my plans until I give him permission.
>
> On a final note, I have appreciated the feedback from all tourists,
citizens
> and moderators regarding my builds in A!!CT, however, due to the current
> circumstances I will not be building anything new for A!!CT, I will remain
> as an Advisor to Whitestar and Defiance but that's all, until , like I
said,
> the situation is rectified. I'm also not currently accepting invitations
to
> build in other worlds, or for specific games etc, I do however thank all
> those people who have asked my assistance or advise over the past several
> months.
>
> If AW Management requests my assistance, I'm willing to make some kind of
> arrangement.
>
> I can be contacted at - rowey22 at hotmail.com
>
> Thanks for your Time..
> Happy Buildin' and lets not have AW Die completely
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

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