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Apr 17, 2002, 1:58pm

It's not our fault that your area is in a jumpy mood, fix it yourselves,
we're not your babysitters. Nor should we help you fix your own problems..
why's everyone hate the west so much but always want our help to fix things?
*cough*stop isreal US, or we'll hate you more*cough*

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Apr 17, 2002, 2:04pm

You clearly pointed out that you wanted us to see what you go through in
order to draw our sympathy. We really can't help what you're going through,
no ammount of money or aide we send will stop either side's pointless
bickering over something so stupid as land. They'll still hate each other..
they'll still fight, they'll still do these stupid things. It's sad it
happens.. but there's nothing in this world we can do about it, go to the
people that did it, tell them to stop.

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Apr 17, 2002, 2:09pm

Not you in the literal sense. You as in the Eastern area.

--Bowen--

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Apr 17, 2002, 2:14pm

Libya is in the east in relation to the West. I'm not saying you're part of
the group.. just saying don't defend them if you aren't there to witness it.
As you said before, Libya is not all that bad and there's no poor people
there. So if you're not there to personally witness the Palestine/Isreal
conflict... why do you care so much?

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Apr 17, 2002, 3:38pm

Ok first, your objective is one sided. You said the news channels show
different sides, but you clearly aren't viewing both sides. I don't really
care if your cousin was sadam, it's not important nor relevant to the
discussion that >YOU< are not part of it.

As for all that stuff, why do I care? You don't care about the bad things
that happen in my country thus I shouldn't care about what you think I
should care about that happens to another country. Bush and Blaire aren't
my concern either, I don't personally think my President is a very smart
person. Arafat maybe a freedom fighter in your eyes, but is it in everyone
elses? Has he stopped the suicide bombers? No, then he's just as guilty if
he doesn't help stop the cause of the fighting. Now he wants the US to
clean the mess he started because he couldn't keep his people under control.
And the Jews got pissy and started to fight back instead of cowering. The
fact is, I don't watch CNN, if I do it's about the economy not about what's
happening god knows where. I make my decisions based on what I see fit from
everything I get information on, not just what CNN tells me.

Objectiveness is a horrible thing, it leads to violence, "he's a freedom
fighter" to one side might burden the rights of the people he's fighting,
thus he's a terrorist to them. If they'd all stop fighting, it'd be much
better. I really so no reason to fight.. ooh just because they're in your
land, who cares, get over it, the worlds a big place. Am I correct as to
why the Jews and Palestines are fighting? Over land? Maybe I got the wrong
information there, please correct me.

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Apr 17, 2002, 3:43pm

Actually no, the US had nothing to do with that :). Churchill proclaimed
that land to be the Jewish homeland after the defeat of the Axis powers. So
if you want to blame someone for all of it, blame England.

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Apr 17, 2002, 9:46pm

He lost his right to post probably from these pictures.. that'd be my guess.
Some of the uniforms don't seem to match up either.. did anyone else notice
that? And the street is different in the picture where it looks like the
guy is shooting the other guy.

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Apr 18, 2002, 12:45am

Well there'd still be some little bickers here and there with conflicting
views.. and people being stubborn. But no where near the size of what
they've been.. WW2, the crusades, etc.

--Bowen--

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Apr 18, 2002, 1:54pm

I didn't just say that? :P

--Bowen--

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Apr 18, 2002, 5:02pm

If there was no religion, how could it be interpreted in an extreme way?
Thus the source is the misuse, yes, but it also has to have it's basis,
which is the religion itself.

--Bowen--

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Apr 18, 2002, 6:16pm

Well, you could teach the man the right way to use the food. It is
pleasure, but you shouldn't take sole pleasure just in eating. Moderation
needs to be taken in. And the jew thing, it wasn't there fault, the nazi's
didn't like any religion, but they hated Jew's the most. I think mainly
because hitler's family was jewish.. and he hated them that much. His
grandmother was at least :P.. yeah we'd still have fighting but things like
9/11 wouldn't have happened. It's because their "god" told them it was the
right thing to do in their mind.. but I'm sure they would've found some
other excuse to do it. Some people are just mentally unstable I guess.

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Apr 20, 2002, 2:18am

There's a lot of places we could move either side to, they're just bickering
over a small strip of land. The world's a big place.

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Apr 20, 2002, 6:40pm

ooo ahh, It's the holy land to about 40 other religions the exist too. All
I see is those 2 fighting about it because they have nothing better to do.
Jeez, pull something like, my messiah's spirit traveled through here during
it's eternal life, I proclaim this my new holy land.. and do it where no one
else is. What makes it a holy land anyways? Jeez who cares, it's just a
place to live, just go visit it for god sakes if you can't come to an
agreement on who should own it.

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Apr 20, 2002, 7:56pm

LoL Jesus was born around that area ;). They were defending the Church of
the Nativity a couple of weeks ago. Supposedly that's where he was born.
They're just a little over zealous about things.

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Apr 21, 2002, 6:54pm

To create your own objects you need to be fairly decent in math (that is if
you want to do it the old fashioned way). Or else you can use truespace
(www.caligari.com). Be advised, novice use of Truespace to create objects
will result in quite a bit of Framerate drop in your world.

As for running a world, not that much. Just a good internet connection and
a fast computer.. Do you want to run your Object path on your computer
locally?

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Apr 22, 2002, 1:24am

Honestly Jerme, there's a lot of useless stuff there that you don't need for
hosting a world.. It's best not to give misleading information to people.

Look below for highlights.

> Probably the best way to run a world is to let someone else host it. Find
a
> hosting service ( I offer good, free hosting.. I can set you up with
> everything you need) and let them do all the dirty work. This let's you
> worry more about creating objects, building, and running things in your
> world.... Instead of worrying about server security, backing up your data,
> installing the world server, and web server admin.

Well, security of the world server isn't really a big thing. No Uber
crackers are out there hacking there way into the Activeworlds servers.
Thank the light for a non-popular piece of software. If there are any
security breaches, it's most likely with said software then with the actual
computer itself.

> To run a world on you own you'd probably need:
>
> -A computer to use to develop your objects and textures on (also used to
> build and access your world)
> -A computer to dedicate to hosting your world and the world's Object Path.
> (it doesn't have to be really fast.. just as long as it works)

Don't need to dedicate a computer just to hosting a world and object path,
but if you do want it all in one, you want to make sure it can handle your
daily work plus a little of object paths and world hosting. Anything above
400 MHz / 28 Mb of ram should do quite fine.

> -A relatively fast internet connection.. DSL./Cable or faster - with a
fixed
> IP address

Well if you don't turn off your computer the IP doesn't change.. having a
fixed IP is something that's relatively moot now-a-days with the world of
DNS2GO and other similar services.

> -Knowledge and experience at setting up and maintaining a web server
> -You'll need MS Windows (for newbies) or a free copy of Linux if you know
> what you're doing.

That pretty much covers most the computer world doesn't it? ;) Linux is
still quite easy to set up if you follow directions on Mauz's site. Not
quite as easy as Windows though, so I'd have him stick to windows, thus not
having to dedicate a computer.


> -Want a domain name? Better figure out how to use BIND (for Linux) or find
a
> DNS server for Windows.

Don't need a domain name really, like I said with the fixed IP things.

> -Experience with Photoshop or Painter (or any other nice image editing
> program) for creating your textures.
> -You'll need to lean RWX scripting and/or buy a copy of TrueSpace
> -Anything else I left out....
>
> Again, easiest thing is to let someone else host it. That way you can
learn
> RWX to create your objects, make your textures, and build using them
without
> worrying about all the server stuff.

It may not always be as convienient though IMHO. Say you need something
relatively fast.. but your hoster's not on.. what then? IE: someone
terrorizes your world because you were stupid and thought you could trust
them.. but then again, that's always going to happen :\.

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Apr 22, 2002, 1:25am

> 400 MHz / 28 Mb of ram should do quite fine.

That's supposed to be 128.. stupid me.

Apr 22, 2002, 5:45pm

Not really, the same object converted to RWX is much much faster, by 3 or 4
framerates in my case.

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Apr 23, 2002, 1:45am

Yeah I understand now, but then again I don't think anyone really cares if
it's down for 5 or so minutes a day? I would definately recommend Apache
over IIS.. only an insane person uses IIS.

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Apr 23, 2002, 2:21am

Much better then IIS I'm sure about that.. but I would certainly recommend
stepping up to Apache. These guys have been around since the birth of the
Windows operating system.. I think they were before it? Not sure I'd have
to check. They certainly know what they're doing :) Much faster, and you
have a lot more available in the available addons (more then 60% of the
world uses Apache for a webserver). Best of all it's free and open source!
:D

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Apr 23, 2002, 1:43am

Most likely it's a virus, don't run it. This is a very bad e-mail cover up,
there's better ways of doing it. I smell script kiddies again ;)

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Apr 23, 2002, 9:38am

It might be the new virus going around.. what's the subject say?

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Apr 23, 2002, 7:15pm

LOL that just makes it seem more like a virus.

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Apr 23, 2002, 7:56pm

It uses an exploit (a security hole) that allows the attachment to be
executed when viewing the message with Microsoft Outlook Express or Outlook
(without Service Packs installed). This method is similar to the one used by
Nimda or Kak worms.

If he's read it.. he's already been infected (that is if he doesn't have the
service packs).

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Apr 23, 2002, 8:06pm

Just reread that whole crapload.. it told your computer to execute the
attachment kitty.exe

Without the service packs installed (as said earlier) your computer is
probably infected as we speak.. run your normal antivirus after you update
it's virus list and head on over to antivirus.com and use the free net scan
(to ensure the most up to date virus list is being used). It's always good
to scan with more then one antivirus program :). Below is what's telling it
to execute the file:

"Content-Type: application/octet-stream;
name=kitty.exe"

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Apr 23, 2002, 8:19pm

Well, most good viruses don't use outlook, they connect to a known SMTP
server, such as AOL's and use it to propagate E-mail to addresses it grabbed
from your address book. But it's always good just in case :). That's the
part where firewalls come in handy! Just a side note, BlackIce isn't a good
firewall for that either ;).. it only protects incoming transmissions, not
outgoing.

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Apr 24, 2002, 5:00pm

Well with OE it usually does execute it.. sorry I wasn't at all awake that
day ;) Though you were not going to post anymore?

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Apr 24, 2002, 5:01pm

Did I say SMTP? What the hell was I smoking? LoL again I'll say I wasn't
at all awake that much yesterday.

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Apr 24, 2002, 7:24pm

Kick butt, good job ;). Symantec has something on their website that checks
for that just in case, might want to give it a run through.

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Apr 24, 2002, 7:35pm

Yup, that's one of the things that viruses try to do. They always try to
send themselves to other people in a hope that it can spread. I really
don't understand why people make viruses.. they do no good and make no
sense.

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