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Life imprisonment for hacking crimes (General Discussion)
Life imprisonment for hacking crimes // General DiscussionbrantOct 1, 2001, 9:16pm
The U.S. Congress is currently debating a law that would consider
"individuals suspected of causing minimal damage to networked computers" as terrorists, subjecting them to penalties as harsh as life imprisonment. This law would designate those who create even relatively harmless viruses and trojan horses as terrorists and subject them to these penalties. In other words, if this law is passed, those who continue to spread these childish fake "Stock Quote Bots" and other trojan horses could find themselves up against stricter penalties than a simple ISP account closure should the proper authorities be notified. Take a look at the full article at http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/10/01/hackers.terrorists.idg/ind ex.html. ananasOct 1, 2001, 9:23pm
Not only the US, Europe has the same idiots and the same laws
are discussed (or even in effect?) in Bruxelles too, together with other laws that enable the state to encroach into anyones privacy. So we will have to say WB to Stasi and Gestapo soon :( [View Quote] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ ananasOct 1, 2001, 10:42pm
oh, I forgot one thing :
Several of us are potential criminals, because using tracert and other network diagnostic utilities already might be seen as an illegal hack attack. They will need larger prisons. -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ brantOct 1, 2001, 10:47pm
Perhaps, and I don't agree that someone should go to prison for a minor
hacking offense, but maybe the people who steal passwords, hack into computers, and write viruses and trojan horses and think they own AW will start to realize that what they are doing is a serious crime. mike zimmerOct 1, 2001, 11:14pm
I saw this on TechTV.
Why send a little kid who defaces a website or makes a little Trojan to life in jail when someone kills a person and gets 30 years? That is just pretty stupid... [View Quote] nomad 1Oct 1, 2001, 11:34pm
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Unfortunately, in the grand scheme of things, it seems that corporate and economic interests are becoming more important that the those of the individual. The life of a single individual barely makes a blip on the screen when money is concerned. I doubt this proposed law will make it to life (this time), unaltered, however you can count on governments/corporate interests to attemp to gain as much out of the recent world events as possible. My 2 cents worth. NoMad 1 sw comitOct 2, 2001, 12:08am
It says *up* to life imprisonment, that being the worst penalty for doing
something like, oh I dunno, the code red virus maybe? [View Quote] ananasOct 2, 2001, 3:20am
Even stealing a password must not be criminal but can be sport
or even be helpful if you inform the admin about the successful hack without causing further damage. Using it to cause damage or to steal data is where it starts to be criminal. [View Quote] -- "_ | /\ \ / __/ /_ xanlarOct 2, 2001, 9:13am
i agree with Mike. why do something like that? there are just too many
stupid people in this world... XanLar kahOct 2, 2001, 9:21am
oh, man, this time they're going WAY too far!!!! I'm glad I don't live in
the US nor European Union, don't want these lunatics to govern me! KAH [View Quote] brantOct 2, 2001, 10:28am
As I said - I'm not afraid of the terrorists - I'm afraid of what our
governments are going to do in response to the terrorists. The media is causing people to panic, and if you watch CNN all day, you'd probably support these sort of measures too. It's been well past time that everyone move on - I hate to say it but a lot of people are starting to become obsessed now. Just my three cents. -Brant [View Quote] sw chrisOct 2, 2001, 5:10pm
Three words: Fox News, baby. :D That'll solve all your problems right
there. -- SW Chris Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master? http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html [View Quote] young phalphaOct 2, 2001, 6:29pm
There's a HUGE difference in taking out very huge buildings, 6000 people dead, and the Dow
dropping, and that of making a "StockQuoteBot" which *might* steal about 10-20 passwords of peoples which is usually fixed by AW banning him and people sending a simple email to AW to get their password back or something... of course there can be other things that might be able to do some "serious" damages to various things of their account or sending a virus to their computer, but of course I won't say those because of certain wanna-be computer terrorists who would see a plethora of ideas... [View Quote] In other words, if this law is passed, those who continue to spread these childish fake "Stock Quote Bots" and other trojan horses could find themselves up against stricter penalties than a simple ISP account closure should the proper authorities be notified. Take a look at the full article at http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/10/01/hackers.terrorists.idg/ind ex.html. tony mOct 2, 2001, 9:26pm
The only way I cold understand this law is if government computers are involved. Otherwise... pfft!
[View Quote] >The U.S. Congress is currently debating a law that would consider >"individuals suspected of causing minimal damage to networked >computers" as terrorists, subjecting them to penalties as harsh as >life imprisonment. This law would designate those who create even >relatively harmless viruses and trojan horses as terrorists and >subject them to these penalties. > >In other words, if this law is passed, those who continue to spread >these childish fake "Stock Quote Bots" and other trojan horses could >find themselves up against stricter penalties than a simple ISP >account closure should the proper authorities be notified. > >Take a look at the full article at >http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/internet/10/01/hackers.terrorists.idg/ind >ex.html. > > -- Tony M (fldmshl2013 at hotmail.com) http://tonyhttp.s5.com sw chrisOct 3, 2001, 6:58pm
Okay, let's compromise...
AWNews.com!!!!! :D -- SW Chris Eagle Scout, Philosopher, Peacemaker, and... Kung Fu Master? http://www.winternet.com/~mikelr/flame1.html [View Quote] |
