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Jul 15, 2003, 11:21am

I would like to be able to specify a minimum browser level on a
per world basis.

I want people who try to enter to get a message telling them they need
a certain minimum browser level, and only let them enter if they have it.

Jul 15, 2003, 6:10pm

Why would this be needed?
Universe owners control what browser build versions can enter the universe
with a newest setting and a minimum setting.
So if they where created by world owners no mater what you put in, the
universe settings would always override it.



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Jul 15, 2003, 8:10pm

Let me clarify..

A per-world minimum browser setting would override the universe setting.
If such a per world setting is implemented, they can make whichever one
they want override the other, and the only way it makes sense is for the
world setting to override the universe setting.

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Jul 16, 2003, 10:23am

Well, this is already available.

Simply program a bot to enter a world in Global mode, subscribe to the
AW_AVATAR_ADD event, and eject people whose AW_AVATAR_VERSION attributes are
below a certain level.

-Brant

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Jul 16, 2003, 10:42am

This is a very rude and roundabout way of accomplishing a very simple task,
and once they enter the world it is too late. Their browser is already
caching the wrong version of objects, getting the wrong cookies etc.

I already know of a few (unsatisfactory) workarounds.

I'm asking AW if they could put this feature in their browser. It's a pretty
simple request. It is a logical extension of the minumum and maximum
browser levels implemented on a per universe basis. Why not just extend
the mechanism to include a per world setting?

If I have to do it your way, then I would like some better control over
caching, and if everything has to be done by bots, I would like the limit on
the number of bots removed.

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Jul 16, 2003, 8:06pm

This is a very much needed feature for the world server. A bot does NOT
accomplish this task efficiently, nor effectively. By world server control
you stop the user from ever entering the world until the appropriate version
is obtained, expecially for viewing purposes. If a bot is made to handle
this task, the user is connected to the server then must be told to be
ejected, and ejection is not the way this task should be handled at all.

When there are 2 or more existing versions of the browser out that are in
use, I know I want my world viewed under the same conditions as they are
built. If the browser doesnt support a particular sdk event I do not even
want them to get to the point of event_avatar_add, the user attempting to
connect should be refused access, not ejected.

A world option to specify minimum browser build is highly needed, it makes
sure everyone is using the same client that is viewing your world; extremely
important for game worlds.

DM

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Jul 17, 2003, 5:16am

much needed? I dont think anyone will like this idea at all.
you say it would be good for game worlds.
If I see, you must downgrade to version 2.2 to enter my world or something
like that you wont get many visitors.
This idea to me is not a good thing nor is it really worth doing.

what's to stop this?
if you make a world set to only allow say 2.2 you must downgrade, but them
if you want to leave and go to another world you will be kicked out cause
your version is not good enough.

This whole idea is not logical.





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Jul 17, 2003, 5:57am

I don't want people to downgrade at all. I want them to upgrade
to *at least* a certain browser level. This type of minimum version
level is extremely widespread and common throughout the software
business.

You are interpreting this in completely the oppostie way.

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Jul 18, 2003, 1:44am

hmm ok putting it that way, it could be a good idea.
But how would you be able to override the universe settings?
Say your world is set to allow all versions of the browser or just 3.3 and
up, but the universe only allows 1 version the newest one?
Four this idea to work they would have to take it out the universe options
and add it to the world server options.



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Jul 18, 2003, 2:24am

[View Quote] > hmm ok putting it that way, it could be a good idea.

> But how would you be able to override the universe settings?

> For this idea to work they would have to take it out the universe
> options and add it to the world server options.

I only want to override the minimum. In any case, as long as the world
minimum can only ever be higher than the universe minimum, there will
be no conflict, the current universe minimum and maximum will remain
as they are, and the only thing that would change would be that some
worlds might only work with a higher *minimum* version of the browser
than the universe supports.

In practice, most worlds would support the same browsers the universe
supported. Only worlds that really needed features only available
on newer browsers would set their minimum to a higher level than
their host universe.

> Say your world is set to allow all versions of the browser or just 3.3
and
> up, but the universe only allows 1 version the newest one?

My world would *only* be allowed to set it's minimum browser level
to versions between the universes minimum level and the maximum
(beta) level.

Allowing a world to even set the current beta as a minimum would
also provide a way for worlds that are participating in a beta to
restrict access to people possessing a beta level browser.

Jul 20, 2003, 8:00am

This would be good, but with one exception... the world setting should not be able to set the minimum lower than the universe setting for the minimum browser build. In other words, if your browser is below either the minimum set for the universe you could not enter the universe at all, even if your startup world tried to set a minimum browser build number that was lower than the one you were using at the time.

TechnoZeus

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Jul 20, 2003, 8:04am

The fact that a function could be programmed into a bot does not make that function an already existing browser feature. Yes, it can already be done, and in fact NewAW has been doing it for some time now, but having the function as a world server and browser feature would be nice.

TechnoZeus

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