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Jun 1, 2006, 2:06pm

i dont know but i think the cell limit in aw world is lower, i tried to
work on builds and it says its all area full. and in 3.1 i had no
problems building in same area. i think they lowered the cell does
anyone know for sure?

Jun 1, 2006, 3:10pm

[View Quote] The cell size is the same I think. But I heard Ferruccio pondering that
maybe each object takes up more space under the new database?
Two new fields have been added to the propdump version 4.
I suggested rallying for Huge cell size now ;)

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Mauz
http://mauz.info

Jun 1, 2006, 3:16pm

this really messed my builds. Its a downgrade for cell size. please
tell me is that acceptable? I have some builds in aw that were close to
being area full.. now i cant even edit those areas, and part of my
builds i moves objects around and i cant move them back now because of
area full. before i was aware of thios change :( yes its 2006 fast PCs
and fast internets they will have to change it to huge or fix the large
to count for the new database ; (

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Jun 1, 2006, 3:17pm

awi is to chicken there precious servers and wallets will crack

Jun 1, 2006, 3:52pm

[View Quote] Roadkill did a test to see how many objects can fit in the old database,
and with the new. 74 objects could fit in a single cell, with a large
cell limit, under the old database. Only 55 of the same objects can fit
with a large cell limit under the new database.

I am not building anything in Alphaworld until AWI does something to
compensate for the more bulky database. It's just too difficult to
alter what's already there.

Jun 1, 2006, 4:28pm

Indeed, there's about 25% less cell space universe-wide. It's a bug, or so
I'm told. Hopefully it gets fixed soon before too many people make a big
mess outa their denser builds...

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Jun 1, 2006, 7:16pm

I guess that as said a temprorary fix of making the world huge or even mega,
would be a sensible thing to do, if it is a bug, then it will be corrected
(don't I sound confident)

However if this is on an AW world, then there is people far more
knowledgeable than me.

Is anyone who has actually got a private world having this same problem, as
I have 3 worlds to worry about, and need to expect problems once I am able
to use them in 4.1

Thanks in advance
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Jun 2, 2006, 1:12am

Instead of increasing the cell limit, and because the objects database is
bigger (which is making less objects fit in a cell), couldn't they just
recode the browser -- if the browser says fit in XX number of data in a cell
for Mega cell, couldn't they just up it?

That way, it'll still be the same as 3.6 really.

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Jun 2, 2006, 6:50am

I heard that the way cell max space is handled is quite complex and
really hard to change. Then again that might just have been an excuse
to previous community demands for higher cell amounts.

I just wish they'd give us world owners an option for 'unlimited' or
some near unlimted amount.

Jun 2, 2006, 8:53am

[View Quote] Near-unlimited? Infinity - 1?

Jun 2, 2006, 1:52pm

I was waiting for that one, RoadKill.

And I think there would be quite some danger in adding this feature. Worlds
and browsers would be crashing left right and centre.
If there was a need for the feature, it would've been out long ago.

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Jun 2, 2006, 3:26pm

Cell data is sent in one big data packet. And the larger the packet, the
more likely it'll fail it's lil' internet trip and have to retry. Since
there are transfer standards it has to abide by I think there's a limit on
just how big a single packet can be, though correct me if I'm wrong...



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Jun 2, 2006, 7:19pm

Ok So is AWI going to fix the cell issue or are they just gonna keep
it as it is now with lower cell. i already messed up some of my builds
because i did not know the cell limit is lower and i cant move objects
back to where they belong. I understand Aw world is a hassel for awi
and they would love to just do away with it. but they have about done
away with me if i cant build like i used to.
:(

Jun 2, 2006, 8:05pm

Considering its a universe-wide problem, and affecting even other upgraded
universes, there's nooo way they're lettering this slip by. Would be
unimaginable :o
I'm pretty sure they'll fix it soon enough. In the meantime I'm taking a
much needed break from AW...

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Jun 3, 2006, 1:56am

Cryonics was at GZ :) and he said that the cell problem would be fixed.
Isnt that nice! yay!! welp cant wait to finish my ship in aw now .
maybe in a day or two the cell thing will be ready. very nice

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Jun 3, 2006, 2:36am

Yes, I do believe there is a limit on packet size set somewhere along
the line. A larger amount of data should be split up and sent in two
packets.

However, sending everything in one big packet defeats the purpose of
packets in the first place....

The idea behind packets is that the data is broken up into smaller
chunks (i.e. "packets") and each of these chunks is sent individually.
Once all the chunks (packets) arrive on the other end, they're put back
together in the correct order, and then you have the data. (Weren't the
designers of TCP/IP clever, or what?)

So why try to force everything into one packet when there's seemingly so
much data to send?

-J

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Jun 3, 2006, 2:49am

you? finish?....never LOL

I hope you continue on that for a long long time....its a masterpiece....one
of those builds that can build forever : )

good work

sweets

Jun 3, 2006, 4:52am

Simply put, because that's just the way it was made back in the begining.
From what I heard over the years, changing the system would be a huge
undertaking in the script. I'm sure AWI is going to need a more convincing
reason for needing more objects per cell before starting such a project.

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Jun 4, 2006, 12:48am

Ok so now aw is set to Huge. what do yall make of that. maybe its
tempoary. maybe they will fix the cell and just use huge in meantime.
anyone know?

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Jun 4, 2006, 1:24am

Pretty awesome :D Been having some fun in AW with it.
I'm sure everyone is hoping its not temporary though lol. But if it is, at
least we can get back to building again.

- Com


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