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Aug 29, 2005, 1:01pm

Besides entries of new models I have made, I have made possibly 2 other
posts to the newsgroups in the last 6 months. Neither do I talk to a Tallan
here because he slanders me nor have I in the last 6 months. However, his
partner and cohort OneSummer has been my friend and her and I have gotten
along well. We have always been friendly to one another and I try to help
her whenever she needs something.

When the problem with Tallan arose with me, OneSummer asked that she not get
involved in any way. I respected that out of concern for the fact she says
she isn't feeling all that well. I prayed for her well-being and always
stuck up for her when anyone even looked coss-eyed at her.

I'm asking myself why? I recently received several grams from OnSummer to
other people here in activeworlds about me saying things about Tallan. It
seems that OneSummer and Tallan are in this together.

Telegram from (name not disclosed), sent Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:11 AM:
# 1 ) Telegram from OneSummer, sent Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:20 PM:
well I think its because Pelican hangs there and wrote really bad stuff
about him in the newsgroup but I am not enovoled
# 2 ) Telegram from OneSummer, sent Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:21 PM:
this is one of his postings The top ten reasons Tallan is an attention
whore.
# 3 ) Telegram from OneSummer, sent Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:23 PM:
and he said TaLLan has a small weenie and such, I don't think (name not
disclosed) knows all the bad things he said ...


Turning our attention to OneSummer......

What do you call someone who says they are your friend to your face and then
spreads rumors behind your back? OneSummer, if you have a problem with what
I have said about anyone in here, you bring it up with me instead of
spreading rumors throughout activeworlds which is what started all this in
the first place. Spreading rumors is behin people's backs are just methods
of gathering attention..and we already know what we call those people.

Aug 29, 2005, 3:04pm

Awww,, you should know,, she, can,t say it to your face pelly... =)
She,s innocent remember?...lol

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Aug 29, 2005, 3:32pm

replying on this part
# 3 ) Telegram from OneSummer, sent Sun Aug 28, 2005 11:23 PM:
and he said TaLLan has a small weenie and such, I don't think (name not
disclosed) knows all the bad things he said ...
OS, Sweetie,, if you read it correctly,, you,ll see it was Duskbat that said
he had a small Wee Wee , not Pelican
.....hmm and I don,t think ( name not disclosed) Knows wot she is Talking
about....


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Aug 29, 2005, 4:07pm

TaLLan has a small weenie?

....okay, I take back all the things I said in Mars GZ D:

;¬)

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Aug 29, 2005, 4:32pm

After contemplating why these things are being said about me and done to me,
I realize that it's not anyone's fault that they get caught up in this. I
know that because of physical conditions, emotional anomalies, many people
have to lead less than 'exciting' lives unfortunately. To no fault of their
own. I forgive those of you who have lashed out at me directly or otherwise.
I'm here because I love you guys.

As far as OneSummer, yes, I did say "attention whore" but that's all...(and
honestly, I find nothing wrong with that statement) I see it was merely a
miscommunication by someone along theis electronic game of "telephone" that
we're playing. I'll always love OneSummer. She is a kind and giving citizen
of activeworlds.

Now, If I can be the attention whore for a minute.....

I've made mistakes in the past here, I think Ive paid dearly for them and
I'm sure I'll make more mistakes. All I know is I try my hardest to do
what's kind and right. Sometimes out of anger (I have high blood pressure) I
let everyone know how used I feel. I think Ive contributed alot to
activeworlds and I will continue to do so even if some people don't feel
they need me here.

When someone came to me and said they couldnt afford a cit, I gave them my
world cit and borrowed money from someone for my own. I've taught people how
to build, and built without expecting anything in return. I've helped many
worlds grow while I too learned more about activeworlds technology. Ive
never asked for anything back. I've always done for people to the point of
lacking of my own well-being. Now that Ive patted myself on the back, you
don't have to, nor does God.

I'm renegging on my 'goodbye' to activeworlds. I'm allowed. I am not one of
the modelling wannabes in here. I think I've earned my title as 'modeler'
(although I'm still learning). 18 months ago, one man here said he was going
to take down aw's modellers. He said that they were all thieves. This one
man's interpretation of the copyright laws unfortunately became an
unGodly.... erm... obsession(?)... But let's take a close look at what he
has said.

I have seen many citizens who are budding modellers....yes, haha, some may
be thieves but I dont call them that. Why would I destroy their dream? I
show them what they should do. It's a complex web of laws that dictate what
is actually copyrightable. It's alot of work but how do you tell a newbie
that without scaring them away from modelling? Modelling a sellable object
primarily requires you model from scratch and also make textures from
scratch (although there are some allowances for modifying CERTAIN pieces of
artwork) If you make everything from scratch, you will not have any
problems.

There are but a few citizens who have devoted their time here to creating
art through 3D objects. If you want to be one of those people, plan on
spending many hours modelling, screwing up, remodelling, screwing up again,
retextutring, retexturing, retexturing...and phew....when you're all done,
put a sign on it...and it will sit there. Maybe no one will ever buy it. So
now, if you still have the ambition, start again on a new model and go
through the entire process again and again until you finally find something
that someone likes enough to buy it. And believe me, you're gonna sweat out
of pores you never knew you had. But when you finally do sell your first
object, your first piece of artwork. It's highly rewarding. So, if it's in
you...stick with it.

But if it's not in you, don't pretend to be a modeller...we have many
homebound citizens whose only income is that which they can do at the
computer. For every model you sell, or give away, you're taking food out of
someone's mouth. If you still feel the need to do that, fret you answer to
God.

So, in a lot of ways, that "obsessed" (for lack of a better term) person is
right. And he does all the real modellers a service by weeding out the
wannabes. Now, it's clear who is left. Those who are "true" modellers and
those who will sweat from new pores to get there. I've sweat from wayyy too
many pores to leave. God bless everyone who has helped me thus far.

So, now it's over. The task that was started by one was accomplished and we
can all go about our business again.


















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Aug 29, 2005, 5:18pm

rotflmao!!
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Aug 29, 2005, 5:27pm

rofl at rossyfox


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Aug 29, 2005, 5:31pm

Smiles, Very Well Said Pelican


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Aug 29, 2005, 6:52pm

I consider myself a modeller and live on a fixed income, sometimes barely
making it through. But we never considered selling or being in the class of
those that did sell, 'the gods'

My friend and I owned the world for many years and 'shopped' at AWUniv3 and
various places for AW objects. Fun shopping trips, no money LOL. Nothing
fit right. Walls not exactly like our imagination, things overlapped, couch
just never fit where you thought it should.

So we learned Notepad. I drove to Texas to stay with a good friend who gave
me lessons on how to make a box (that took 2 weeks, ok I am no genius I
admit heh), returned home and taught my partner. Boom, all of a sudden we
found a passion we did not know existed...modelling. We sucked up the info
files reading constantly, we asked so many questions people I think started
avoiding me, we tried and failed, tried and succeeded, we faught and yelled
at each other, we laughed and patted each others backs. It has been
fantastic.

Our world was finally able to be what we dreamed it could be. Things fit
right, if the object was not available, we made it, from scratch, to match
our dream. Oh what a thrill to see our dreams and fantasies take form. It is
still somewhat of a miracle even now, each object that we form.

It was seeing what the professionals could do that made me need to learn. I
looked up in awe to two people, that never even knew they influenced me.
Murasaki and Aylla. Women. Modellers. Exceptional objects created out of
their minds. They gave hope to other women and I still look to their models
and avs with awe. Goddesses of AW in my mind.

For years now we have created objects, our dreams. We dont give or sell for
one reason. Those objects and forms are what make our world special,
different, and not just another AW world.

Some of us are modellers, just for the sake of modelling. A passion that
does not quit.

sweets

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Aug 29, 2005, 8:43pm

Not that there's anything wrong with modeling for a business, but it's nice
to see someone who models from the same 'place' that I do, sweets. So much
less stress, eh?

Aug 29, 2005, 9:54pm

I agree. I would love the perfect world where I can model as I see fit and
just create and design. Unfortunately, I dont have that luxury for several
reasons I wont go into. Thus, I try and make a little money modelling. So do
some others here. and I know you wouldnt want to take that away from them.

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Aug 29, 2005, 9:57pm

nothing wrong with selling objects. i personally don't, but thats only
because i'm living off my parents.
same as selling software, if microsoft were giving away software for free,
they wouldn't be able to make anything new/good.
If you need to charge to be able to keep on creating, then i think it's a
fair deal.

as for linux, no matter what you say, it's not as good as windows, don't
even bother arguing that, and still, lots of companies make money off of
thier versions of it.

-SWE

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Aug 29, 2005, 11:22pm

[View Quote] > I consider myself a modeller and live on a fixed income, sometimes barely
> making it through. But we never considered selling or being in the class of
> those that did sell, 'the gods'
>
> My friend and I owned the world for many years and 'shopped' at AWUniv3 and
> various places for AW objects. Fun shopping trips, no money LOL. Nothing
> fit right. Walls not exactly like our imagination, things overlapped, couch
> just never fit where you thought it should.
>
> So we learned Notepad. I drove to Texas to stay with a good friend who gave
> me lessons on how to make a box (that took 2 weeks, ok I am no genius I
> admit heh), returned home and taught my partner. Boom, all of a sudden we
> found a passion we did not know existed...modelling. We sucked up the info
> files reading constantly, we asked so many questions people I think started
> avoiding me, we tried and failed, tried and succeeded, we faught and yelled
> at each other, we laughed and patted each others backs. It has been
> fantastic.
>
> Our world was finally able to be what we dreamed it could be. Things fit
> right, if the object was not available, we made it, from scratch, to match
> our dream. Oh what a thrill to see our dreams and fantasies take form. It is
> still somewhat of a miracle even now, each object that we form.
>
> It was seeing what the professionals could do that made me need to learn. I
> looked up in awe to two people, that never even knew they influenced me.
> Murasaki and Aylla. Women. Modellers. Exceptional objects created out of
> their minds. They gave hope to other women and I still look to their models
> and avs with awe. Goddesses of AW in my mind.
>
> For years now we have created objects, our dreams. We dont give or sell for
> one reason. Those objects and forms are what make our world special,
> different, and not just another AW world.
>
> Some of us are modellers, just for the sake of modelling. A passion that
> does not quit.
>
> sweets
>

You warmed up my heart! Thank you!!!!!

--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

Aug 29, 2005, 11:27pm

"Andras" <andras at andras.net> wrote
> You warmed up my heart! Thank you!!!!!

Have you not been taking the napalm tablets I gave you?

--
- Mark Randall
http://zetech.swehli.com

Aug 30, 2005, 6:52am

Nope I wouldnt and have always respected an artists rights. Have also
bought avs because they are so damn good. The dream of one day creating an
av is still in me, but on notepad is impossible. Or pretty impossible. So
after years have finally given in and loaded truspace. This should be
hilarious as am lousy at programs.

We are here to do what we do to have a good time. Make money or not we are
all riding a wave.

I just want to have fun and be able to do what the Big Boys do LMAO....

sweets

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Aug 30, 2005, 9:27am

I can't wait to see the first "stick figure" avatar in AW.
; )


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Aug 31, 2005, 5:08am

Load up the Toon 3D Homepage and look through the avatar list =P
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Aug 31, 2005, 1:06pm

Sorry to hear they got to you to Pelican. Unfortunetly the same people just
keep doing the same thing to anyone that don't kiss there "you know what" no
mater what they do to them. I't's like they are saying turn around so i can
stab you in the back then i will turn around so you can kiss my "you know
what". I hope some day they just stop, but unfortunetly i don't see that
happening.
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