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cy nominations out (Community)
cy nominations out // Community
Sep 3, 2002, 11:22am
True, and some very good points, though I was not necessarily directing that
post at any one person - though there have been many, that have flamed this
topic in an inappropriate way... I hardly call what I said, a flame,
considering I wasn't attacking anyone. There are those, however, that have
sent telegrams to some of the nominees, that could definitely be considered
flames...
Poseidon
[View Quote]"wizard myrddin" <admin at activeworlds.org.uk> wrote in message
news:3d747819 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hi Poseidon
>
> To start any "flamming" is not the point that many have raised, the point
> is, has the very rules and regulations that are the fabric of the CY's and
> where acepted and in a Cy forum been altered at the last stage of the
> selection process.
>
> Although Goober King has stated the forum or not in any way the accepted
> views of the CY committee, the interpretation on the accepted rules was
> published for many to see. This is the problem.
>
> All people want to observe is fairness and adherence to these laid down
> proceedures and rules.
>
>
> If any of the nominees has recieved any adverse/abusive telegrams they
> should send the relevent data to abuse at activeworlds.com
>
> I'm sure you can agree that if any rule or regulation is ignored, the
> relevance of the result is tarnised. This is what the point of this entier
> thread is about, removing any tarnising of a great community event.
>
> If any tarnising has acured it lays directly with a posting in the CY
forum
> that all members can visit and see for themselves. Which are very clear
and
> in plain English.
>
> Indeed some prominant members of our community have expressed concern over
> this very point of selection process in private commincations with myself,
> and yes these are people that have been placed on the finial nomination
> list.
>
> This is not any flamming, it is a expression of concern. If members cannot
> display their view and opinions and express concern in a responsible
> environment it is indeed very poor situation that we find ourselves in.
> Indeed initially I did email the cy award committee and recived no
response
> to clarify the situation before approaching the newsgroups.
>
> If members cannot criticise or cast views it is a very sad day indeed.
>
>
>
> "poseidon" <doubleagentjsr at aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3d741eb7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> are
> hard.
feel
make
> it
> that
> are
to
is
looks
May
> in,
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>
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Sep 3, 2002, 11:38am
We don't have to look there's plenty of at least partially valid
reasons out there this year. I turned down being a CY committee member
because I was nominating a friend's world that I helped build for a CY and I
would have been biased. Yet others are committee members and have
nominations. That's not to say they didn't judge properly. but there IS
STILL the appearance.
Also the delays and the rush for members to get the selections in "at the
last minute" IS NOT FAIR.
Sorry, but that's the way it is.
And please don't talk to me about bashing. You can talk to Bit about me
trying to help her smooth one controversy out (even though I thought that
controvery was a valid one).
Paul
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3d739b2f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I swear, you people just look for any excuse to bash the CYs, don't you?
>
> The whole reason I posted that article was to clear up all the crap
> about "changing rules on a whim". If you actually read the *entire*
> article, rather than quoting out of context, you'd see that APB wasn't
> exactly in the right frame of mind when she approved the rules (which
> were made *after* all the nominations had come in, btw) and so she
> rejected them later after she realized the effect they would have on the
> CYs. The net result: No change! The rules are still the same as they've
> always been, and no further changes are forthcoming, at least for this
> round.
>
> If you people still want to believe that the CYs are corrupt or whatever
> after being presented with the facts, then you are truly delusional.
>
> wizard myrddin wrote:
organisational
them,
never
are
nebulous --
posted
if
>
> --
> Goober King
> Or maybe they're just jealous they didn't get in...
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Sep 3, 2002, 11:44am
I think you have to be kidding. It s the CY forum on the CY organization
web site posted to by CY team members (and the community). I think that
makes somewhat official. That's what most people would think.
Paul
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3D749B19.4070907 at utn.cjb.net...
> You have got to be kidding me. When have you *ever* seen a forum where
> posts were considered to be official committee rulings, unless there is
> a specific forum marked for such business? If no such forum exists, then
> nothing should be taken as official unless posted on the website.
> Otherwise, it's all just talk. I would think that to be common sense,
> but I guess that doesn't apply when you have an ax to grind...
>
> wizard myrddin wrote:
of
As
the
warning
Cy
again
you?
the
they've
whatever
ignored,
a
was
favour?
the
forum
and
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> Might as well grind that ax on Cy's head! :P
> robrod at prism.net
>
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Sep 3, 2002, 2:12pm
*sigh* Both you and paul misunderstand me. I meant "forum" as in a
portion of the *main* forum set aside for official committee business.
Take, for lack of a better example, the SW City forums. Their main forum
is divided into smaller forums by topic, and one of those topics happens
to be for official town business only, including town policy changes.
The CY Awards forum, on the other hand, has no such forum. The closest
thing the CY forums have is the News forum, which is where Tauntaun made
the announcement that started all this crap. When APB saw that the new
rules would rule out so many people, she retracted them in a reply to
that very same post. But since the new rules were never posted to the
website, they were never made *official*. There was never any
announcement on the website or in any forum designated for such a
purpose announcing these new rules, so as far as present day is
concerned, those rules never existed.
And as far as investigative reporting goes, that's exactly what I did by
posting that AWNews article here in the NGs. If you can't accept the
words of APB and Daphne, then there's not much else I can tell you.
[View Quote]wizard myrddin wrote:
> You got it in one there Goober.
>
> "unless there is a specific forum marked for such business"
>
> Why then is it named Cy Awards Forum? I quote:
>
> Welcome to the new Cy Awards Forums. Indicating this is part of the main web
> site.
>
> Surely a name like Cy Awards Discussion Forum would be more suitable if not
> endorsed as a part of the main web site?
>
>
> Since when has rule changes been some sort of axe to grind? Thought it was
> as you so rightly beleave in investigative journalism.
> Perhaps constructive is not wanted in aw anymore?
>
> If you leave statements on the Internet for all to see and read you must
> expect critics.
>
>
>
> "goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
> news:3D749B19.4070907 at utn.cjb.net...
>
> of
>
> As
>
> the
>
> warning
>
> Cy
>
> again
>
> you?
>
> the
>
> they've
>
> whatever
>
> ignored,
>
> a
>
> was
>
> favour?
>
> the
>
> forum
>
> and
>
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Goober King
The truth cannot help those who refuse to see it
robrod at prism.net
Sep 3, 2002, 7:05pm
:-\
What's that suppose to mean?
--
- Syntax -
http://www.swcity.net
http://forum.swcity.net
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3D74D9D6.9060807 at utn.cjb.net...
> Take, for lack of a better example, the SW City forums.
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Sep 3, 2002, 7:21pm
better = more well known. :P
[View Quote]syntax wrote:
> :-\
> What's that suppose to mean?
> --
> - Syntax -
> http://www.swcity.net
> http://forum.swcity.net
>
> "goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
> news:3D74D9D6.9060807 at utn.cjb.net...
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Goober King
Does anyone outside of SW City and JFK2 know it even exists? :P
robrod at prism.net
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