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Mar 7, 2003, 12:56pm

> the inspectors to finish their work? What is the bloody hurry?

I'm sorry, I don't consider 2-3 years a hurry. The inspectors can't do anything in a
desert, Saddam can and probably is just moving his weapons around.

Ockham's Razor should be applying to this too. Iraq has and destroyed their weapons,
but does not have any evidence of doing it and maybe just destroyed that too and is
just now allowing inspectors in to prove it? Or, Iraq simply is hiding and moving
them around? Please, you're not that stupid; look past your hatred of Bush for just
one minute. Clinton attacked Iraq for _exactly_ the same reasons during the _end_ of
his presidency. So in those 3 years he just suddenly became the nicest guy on the
planet? Please. Europeans are just so blind to things they can't see.

--Bowen--

Mar 7, 2003, 12:58pm

[View Quote] Let's try this again, more people are killed in Europe by automobile accidents than
in the US with cars and guns combined. Not to mention about 90% of deaths by guns
are caused by over consumption of alcohol; just like you would get with a car
accident in both the US and Europe.

Please don't act so socialist.

--Bowen--

Mar 7, 2003, 1:00pm

[View Quote] I was hoping maybe European people could get past their socialst views and hatred of
Bush, but it was a pipe dream.

--Bowen--

Mar 8, 2003, 12:30am

[View Quote] Republicans are as far away from NAZI's as you can get. Democrats are more socialist
in their actions; Maybe the _original_ republicans (which transformed into the
democrat party).

--Bowen--

Mar 8, 2003, 2:59am

[View Quote] You just said they did. It's ok, it must be the latent Europeanism inside. You
know, cover your eyes and they dissappear.

--Bowen--

Mar 8, 2003, 3:12am

[View Quote] "no one found any NBC weapons till now"

--Bowen--

Mar 8, 2003, 1:50pm

[View Quote] I read it perfectly fine:

"no one found any NBC weapons till now"

That means, "no one has found anything, except for just recently." Which contradicts
what you said about them not having it. So please, make up your mind.

--Bowen--

Mar 8, 2003, 4:54pm

[View Quote] Actually, it's 69. I mean, come on. :)

--Bowen--

Mar 9, 2003, 12:08am

[View Quote] Not likely. Most American families own 4-5 cars. That's including the kids.

--Bowen--

Mar 9, 2003, 12:11am

> besides! Do you think we still have slaves for God's sake?? And by the
> way-we have Native Americans, "indeans" (sic) are from India. I think the

Only the fanatical Indians prefer to be called Native Americans. Most of us really
don't care if you call us Indian, Native American, or American Indians; so long as
you acknolwedge we're of a different culture.

--Bowen--

Mar 9, 2003, 6:26pm

[View Quote] No, this war was approaching for a long time. The democrats attacked Saddam for the
_EXACT_ same reason at the end of Clinton's administration.

--Bowen--

Mar 9, 2003, 6:26pm

[View Quote] I sometimes feel like I'm the only democrat who supports Bush.

--Bowen--

Mar 12, 2003, 4:09pm

[View Quote] Yeah but you're you, and they're them.

--Bowen--

Mar 9, 2003, 10:41pm

[View Quote] US interests. Could possibly be a danger to the US mainland if Saddam were to sell
his weapons.

--Bowen--

Mar 10, 2003, 12:10am

[View Quote] Look what happened to Europe when they didn't consider the alternatives. Look what
happened when they got the US into the war too.

--Bowen--

Mar 10, 2003, 12:48am

[View Quote] 60 years ago is pretty recent. Besides, if you don't learn from the _past_ you're
bound to repeat it. Not to use an overly cliche phrase or anything.

But, believe what you want. We don't care either way.

--Bowen--

Mar 10, 2003, 1:40am

[View Quote] Korea was a UN peacekeeping mission twit.

I suppose it's comparable to anything the Europeans have done in their past. One
screwup is certainly un-excusable compared to the countless European screwups.

--Bowen--

Mar 10, 2003, 2:29pm

> No UN peacekeeping though, just plain mass killing. There is still
> no peace in Korea, they do not have a peace contract so where is
> this peace? If it was thought to be peacekeeping it faied completely.

Here we go. Korea was a UN peacekeeping mission, plain and simple. 4 wars in the
past 60 years, that's not bad. 3 of which were to protect and ensure freedom of
people.

Oh yeah, the UN never was good at peacekeeping.

--Bowen--

Mar 10, 2003, 2:29pm

[View Quote] Korea was a UN peacekeeping mission, blame the security council.

--Bowen--

Mar 10, 2003, 2:53pm

[View Quote] Well, if it is, then the UN can go attack.

--Bowen--

Mar 11, 2003, 4:41pm

[View Quote] Then perhaps, if you're in a rush, we shouldn't be acknolwedging your make-shift
ideas. Since we're in agreement you don't have enough time to at least capitalize
your I's, why would you have enough to think intelligently about a topic?

--Bowen--

Mar 11, 2003, 4:43pm

[View Quote] WW2 has a direct correlation to human rights issues. I rank chemical weapons attacks
on your own people up there with the gas chambers. Let's not even go to rape with a
broken bottle.

--Bowen--

Mar 11, 2003, 6:29pm

[View Quote] But we agree you're in a hurry, same deal. I'm sure your language has it's own
little weirdo rules like that one too; and you forego them on the internet like
everyone else.

--Bowen--

Mar 11, 2003, 6:30pm

[View Quote] Agent Orange has yet to be proven to harm non-plant life. I should know, my dad was
sprayed with it.

--Bowen--

Mar 11, 2003, 8:10pm

> used, but I cannot back it up ( maybe I simply should say: I have proof but
> cannot give them out in the name of national security, because that is whar
> the rest of the word is supposed to be pleased with when asking USA for
> proofs).

The difference is your information doesn't rely on people being in dangerous
situations to gather intel. You may or may not know if they have evidence or not;
but if you say something like that where there's some proof you don't, then it's
horrible. Go ahead and prove Iraq doesn't have weapons, then I'll believe you.

Just because you can't see them doesn't mean they're not there. I suppose if you
face a wall in a dark room with your eyes close the wall doesn't exist either.

--Bowen--

Mar 12, 2003, 12:09am

[View Quote] That statement prooves how flawed your logic is. Powell said there were _NO_ smoking
guns. Only alluding evidence. That is, unless I missed a UN meeting.

--Bowen--

Mar 12, 2003, 12:10am

[View Quote] Uhh, my dad was in direct contact with it for almost his entire time there; no
ill-affects and there's nothing else to be proven. There's that European "we're
always right and Americans are always wrong" attitude again. I'm getting really
peeved off at it too.

--Bowen--

Mar 12, 2003, 12:22am

[View Quote] Smoking gun means direct evidence. Even in his UN speech he emphasized over and over
that there "...are no smoking guns..."

Convicting, alluding evidence is great proof. The same type of proof that could've
kept Hitler from power; hey, we learned from your mistake and are trying to rectify a
situation we left to hell the first 2 times. We're going to do it whether the frog
eaters and clock makers want us too or not. And in the end, when we remove a
Hitler-esque dictator who tortures his own people, it won't matter if there wasn't a
smoking gun to what types of weapons he had. Just the fact that we did what we had
to do to protect lives and fix something we messed up.

I honestly don't care if you don't like the US anymore; no matter what I say or do
cannot change that. I just want you to acknolwedge that Saddam is a madman. When
you do that, realize why we're doing what we're doing without evidence; realize that
we're doing what we must to help.

--Bowen--

Mar 12, 2003, 12:24am

[View Quote] I try not to call names unless the person cannot understand it any other way. But
even if it's not intentional, that's what most conversations with Europeans on this
type of stuff leads too. Sorry if I overgeneralize.

--Bowen--

Mar 12, 2003, 2:25am

[View Quote] This is exactly why I generalize Europeans Joker. I'm too tired to explain exactly
what I mean; but if you interpreted this the same way I did... you'll know. (to
joker ss)

--Bowen--

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