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Feb 2, 2003, 4:45pm

[View Quote] English must not be your native language.

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 4:46pm

[View Quote] By running and installing the software, you agree to the terms set forth by
ActiveWorlds Incorperated.

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 7:49pm

Duh, he's breaking the law.

--Bowen--

[View Quote] Why does SWE use AW?

Feb 2, 2003, 4:43pm

[View Quote] We have the ability to, and it's not very destructive. Sure, we use a lot of gas,
but It's probably negligble compared to the amount cars and busses use per year.

We have the ability to fly, why should we be there? We have the ability to swim and
dive, why should we be there? We have the ability to see into spectrums are eyes
weren't designed for, should we be looking there? We have the ability to listen to
sounds no creature in the world we know of can hear... should we be listening?

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 5:01pm

[View Quote] We created that ourselves. It's ours to do with what we wish.

There are always bad and good sides to everything. Light bulbs, cars, guns,
computers, electricity, space travel, nuclear reactors, et al.

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 5:06pm

> So we need to do whatever we can, just because we can ?

Why shouldn't we? Would you rather still be living in the trees because an ancestor
of yours never took advantage of bipedal walking? Or if you're a creationist; would
you rather not believe in a god because your ancestor never used their imagination to
think up such a thought?

> Sure go ahead and fly to the moon, I am just wondering is it worth all the
> trouble? Have we learned something by flying in space that has been
> essential to our existance? Is it worth to spend 300 miljon dollars? to find
> out how a cactus react in space?

Yeah, and it could lead to medicines which cure cancer and other diseases. Like I
said earlier, everything has a good and bad side.

> to swim and
> are eyes
> listen to
> listening?
>
> Swimming for example do not require so much, one just need to know how to
> swim and some water.
> Yes we can do things because we can, but at some point we might need to stop
> and thing, is it worth it?

If we didn't look in spectrums we don't normally see in, you might not be able to
detect cavities or bone fractures that are not noticable. If we didn't listen into
sound ranges we don't normally hear in, we might miss out contact with other
civilizations, or not even have technology such as the TV or radio.

Think of all the things you take for granted that came from space travel. Velcro and
microwave are some of the more wide spread ones.

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 5:09pm

> Is is worth risking lives of people , just because we can do it, just
> because we want to do something we maybe are not created to do?

It was their risk to take. No one said they HAD to do what they do. They did it
because they enjoyed it. Our bodies are very well adapted to most any environment we
have access to. Space seems to be one of the environments are bodies fit well into.

Hey, gravity isn't needed for swallowing right?

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 6:21pm

> If god had meant us to fly we would have wings:)

According to Judiasm, Christianity, and Islam, we were givin free will. Which means
we have the power to fabricate our own wings and devices.

--Bowen--

Feb 2, 2003, 6:26pm

[View Quote] Europeans tend to be more apathetic towards others. I don't know if we should blame
them, but, at least the US _tries_ to help others and do what is right.

Spare me the, "it involves oil", which almost all Europeans argue this is about. I
didn't see the British complain when Spain pillaged the gold of the Americas.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 1:16am

[View Quote] Just because some of the radicals choose to discriminate doesn't mean all of us do.
They're probably actually in the minority. As for Europeans and the Jews... it tends
to be the opposite. No matter if you're talking about the Jews as a people or just
the Isreali Government.

It certainly didn't sound like a joke.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 1:23am

[View Quote] OK, so you don't have concern for others then?

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 12:37pm

[View Quote] Actually, only about 3-6% of our oil comes from the Middle east.

> Well I would have critiziced that when spanish and portugise killed the
> americans, I would have protested when the indians were killed and their
> land stoled, I would have protested when there was slaves on the cotton
> fields, BUT it was slightly before my time, so I guess I need to be critical
> toward things I feel is wrong in my time or will be in the future. It will
> not help if I go out in the streets and start yelling Bloody spanish, stop
> stealing the gold of the mayas!

Land was only stolen from the Indians in the west. The gov't was actually pretty
nice to the Indians in the East. :P

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 12:39pm

[View Quote] It's generally applied to being anti-Jewish. In the context he was using it, that's
what it applied to. Try to tell the Arabs the Jews are their own kin, see their
reaction.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 12:40pm

[View Quote] But in space, you don't need strength. ;)

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 12:45pm

> I am now aware that moss might be an important oxygen producer if space will
> be inhabited, but yet, I think it is silly. Heck can one not simulate
> "space" on earth? To me it would be more importnat to see that nobody goes
> hungry and homeless in the world of today than to figure out if moss like to
> be in space. Just my opinion, feel free to have other opinions, I have never
> claimed to be right about anything.

Space could be used to provide more room for the homeless. It could be used to grow
less expensive food as no land is needed. It could unite everyone in the world as
one nation.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 2:41pm

[View Quote] Good, cheaper oil. Maybe it'll go up to 10%... it costs a lot of money to transfer
oil.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 2:49pm

[View Quote] LOL!

I think that if Einstein were still alive today and he died, they would publicize
that too. Like they did with Earhart, or something...

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 3:07pm

[View Quote] You've been watching too much television. $4 USD to get it, but it'll probably end
up costing $100 per ton to ship it over sea.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 3:17pm

[View Quote] Can you prove otherwise without using nationalist European sources?

As I said, 3-6% of our oil is imported from that area. Most of it is from the States
and possibly China.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 3:34pm

[View Quote] 3-6% of our total oil is Arab oil, that's a lot though. We do have other sources, as
I said, China and the Orient. Alaska has quite a bit as well. I'm sure there are
quite a bit more, I don't see why everyone focuses on us just exploiting the Arabs
for oil.

Bowen thinks that if Arab nations cut off oil access to the US, European nations
would benefit immensly by selling oil they acquire to the US. Who'd want to lose out
on 3-6% of a couple trillion USD though?

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 3:36pm

[View Quote] What good's a military if it doesn't keep peace? Even the Roman soldiers had to
attack. :\

> Btw.: I think it is quite normal that they publish an accident like
> this more than a shool bus accident. Those people stood more in the
> center of publicity when they lived, so it is only normal that their
> accident has more publicity too.

:\ I don't know, I think a school bus getting blown up would cause a lot of
publicity. Maybe not after the Columbine, etc incidents though.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 4:54pm

[View Quote] Or they'll get comfortable living quarters. I believe a trolly system is under
design for taking people out of the atmosphere? So it wouldn't be high priced and it
could probably cost less then the homeless shelter/cafeteria projects.

--Bowen--

Feb 3, 2003, 11:08pm

Those aren't very reliable sources. Newspapers should rarely be used for
documentation and/or proof.

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 12:30am

[View Quote] Bone's will retain enough density for your muscles to function in Zero-G. As long as
you move things around you can probably increase it. You won't be a blob, but you
certainly won't be able to stand up for a long time on Earth.

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 2:16pm

[View Quote] Or "Me!, an extremist Anti-do-anything-not-natural" resource.

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 9:37pm

[View Quote] Oh, but they're planning on making an organized military. What's the point?

I could do without the "To stop US from attacking us" arguement. Europeans, of all
people, should know how much we try to help and not just take by conquest.

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 9:54pm

[View Quote] Since when does the US have to answer to anyone for going to war? Last I checked
it's our nation and we are the strongest one.

You should have a little respect and shut the hell up about it though or you actually
may be next. If Europe was really so superior why have you needed US help again and
again? Why did the League of Nations fail without US support? Why does the freaking
world revolve around the _US_. I mean you critisize every little thing we do, but
never the bad things that say... Spain does. I'm sure there are some nasty things
hidden in a couple of those nations. Like Nestle. Go pick on Switzerland's company
for trying to charge Ethopia or wherever the hell it was for their losses.

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 9:55pm

[View Quote] I'll be sure to go back in time and tell England war has nothing positive. They
always did enjoy speaking a German base... why not speak the full language.

We're starting a pre-emptive war to stop what could possibly be the worst catastrophe
in the history of the world. Rush? This war has been going on for a while. Last I
checked Clinton attacked Iraq, no one cared about that.

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 10:05pm

[View Quote] LMAO, the US is the only super power left my, "dude". Russia couldn't even fight
Germany, let alone the US. Ever hear of the platoon of Russian troops that
surrendered to 2 unarmed german recon soldiers?

--Bowen--

Feb 4, 2003, 10:09pm

[View Quote] The only way to stop things like what happened with Germany from happening again is
to do pre-emptive strikes. That means taking what we know from the past (someone who
attacks their own people), and seeing what they would do when confronted with enemy
civilians. Gee, is it hard to comprehend that he wouldn't hesitate to kill people
that aren't his, even after he proved he'd do it to his own civilians?

If we don't attack Iraq, we risk them running the gambit. If we do, we risk Europe
getting angry. I'd rather the latter, then risking losing innocent civilian lives
over something we knew we should've done. And yes, Iraqi civilians will die, but
we're trying to preserve our own butts, we have every right to do so. It's either
lose a huge amount of civilian life, or stop it by risking the deaths of a few enemy
civilians. Yeah, that's a hard choice.

--Bowen--

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