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Jan 29, 2003, 8:15pm

Did you think it wasnt releasing the port it was the fact you took 3.4 to
Peace? Which is against the rules you agreed apon...

just my 2 cents...

-Ryan

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What rules?

Lil confused here

~John

Jan 29, 2003, 8:22pm

[View Quote] You need to stop taking deep breaths near glue factories.

--Bowen--

Jan 29, 2003, 8:42pm

There are liscenses and when you put up a version your not lisenced for then
your breaking the rules. Beta Versions are not allowed in other universes.
Only offical Versions.

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Jan 30, 2003, 12:14pm

Well, considoring i've never seen any rules relating to aw, I didnt agree to
any.

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Jan 30, 2003, 12:28pm

John. If you looked hard enough you'd see this rule. AW doesn't support use
of beta in other universes.

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Jan 30, 2003, 12:30pm

Like look on this page.
http://activeworlds.com/help/aw33/universe_citizens.html under Beta User
part it says: This indicates whether or not the citizen is entitled to
receive upgrades to beta versions of the Active Worlds browser. It should
never be enabled in any universe other than the main Active Worlds universe
run by Activeworlds Corp.

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Jan 30, 2003, 12:33pm

I went to peace city and looked at the greyed out universe options which
anyone can see and it says 454 is beta browser. All universes must pay for
lisences for OFFICAL builds not BETA builds since BETA builds are not
allowed in other universes.

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Jan 30, 2003, 6:07pm

PeaceCity has never had the beta browser setting set to 3.4... None of
the cits are even beta enabled so it's rather useless to have a beta build
set.


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Jan 30, 2003, 7:20pm

Lol.... heh.. erm, why dont they have terms & conditions then? I mean when u
signup.

I used a diff univ to upgrade to 3.4.. :-S

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Jan 31, 2003, 7:01am

its just a beta browser , and its useless since its a 43 build worldserver

Jan 31, 2003, 8:04pm

IT doesnt matter if it wont work right the fact is he has broken the terms
and service rules when he had signed up for the AW beta


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Feb 1, 2003, 8:08am

excuse me, but I am not a beta tester nor did I signup for AW Beta
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Feb 1, 2003, 9:06am

Its in the contract for using AW regardles..

- Mark
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Feb 1, 2003, 1:08pm

I havn;t seen a contract nor can I find 1


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Feb 1, 2003, 1:29pm

You signed up to it when you installed..

- Mark

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Feb 1, 2003, 8:04pm

I clicked the bit on the site which auto-installed it and didnt show
ANYTHING

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Feb 1, 2003, 8:40pm

Your bound to it anyway kiddo...

- Mark
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Feb 1, 2003, 8:56pm

Well thats not my fault if AW don't show it.


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Feb 2, 2003, 9:45am

I don't understand what your problem is. You are being told that what you
have done is wrong now - so render the problem or get in trouble.



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Feb 2, 2003, 11:09am

W/E

Render? do you mean like 3d rendering?

At no point have I ever agreed to any terms and conditions for aw, nor have
I seen them

I therefore cannot be blamed for breaking terms & conditions i've never even
seen.

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Feb 2, 2003, 11:52am

Yes you did. It's not a public viewing contract but did AW give you 3.4
beta? Nope.

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Feb 2, 2003, 11:55am

If its not a public viewing contract then people don't have the option to
agree to it or not.

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Feb 2, 2003, 11:55am

BTW, losers, I don't have 3.4 anymore..idiots

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Feb 2, 2003, 12:02pm

Well it might be a public viewing contract. You know that contract when you
sign up and stuff and I bet the uniservers have something about it.

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Feb 2, 2003, 12:03pm

Here is the contract when you install AW.

ACTIVE WORLDS BROWSER END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT

BY CLICKING ON THE "NEXT" BUTTON, YOU ARE CONSENTING TO BE BOUND BY AND ARE
BECOMING A PARTY TO THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO ALL OF THE TERMS
OF THIS AGREEMENT, CLICK THE "CANCEL" BUTTON AND THE INSTALLATION PROCESS
WILL NOT CONTINUE. IF THESE TERMS ARE CONSIDERED AN OFFER, ACCEPTANCE IS
EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO THESE TERMS.

GRANT. Subject to the terms of this Agreement, Activeworlds.com, Inc.
("AWCOM") hereby grants you a limited, personal, nontransferable,
nonsublicensable, royalty-free, nonexclusive license to use one copy of the
client software product you are about to install in object code form
("Software") for the purpose of accessing the Active Worlds server and using
the Active Worlds software resident thereon ("AW Software").

You may: copy the Software for archival purposes, provided any copy must
contain all of the original Software's proprietary notices; you may use the
AW Software subject to the terms and conditions of this license.

You may not, directly or indirectly: modify, translate, reverse engineer,
decompile, disassemble (except to the extent applicable laws specifically
prohibit such restriction), create derivative works based on, or otherwise
attempt to discover the source code or underlying ideas or algorithms of the
Software or AW Software; or copy (except for archival purposes as set forth
above), rent, lease, distribute, transfer or otherwise transfer rights to
the Software or AW Software; use the Software or AW Software for timesharing
or service bureau purposes; or remove any proprietary notices or labels on
the Software or AW Software.

SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or
update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to AW
Software.

SUPPORT. This Agreement does not entitle you to any maintenance, upgrades,
patches, enhancements, fixes, new versions or other support ("Support
Programs") for the Software or AW Software; provided, however, that if you
download or otherwise obtain in any manner any Support Programs they shall
become part of the Software and the terms of this Agreement shall apply.

TITLE. As between the parties, title, ownership rights, and intellectual
property rights in and to the Software and AW Software, and any copies or
portions thereof, shall remain in AWCOM and its suppliers or licensors. The
Software and AW Software are protected by the copyright laws of the United
States and international copyright treaties. Title, ownership rights, and
intellectual property rights in and to any software, data, information,
text, pictures, images, avatars, characters, sounds, personalities, or other
content ("Content") accessed through the Software or otherwise with AW
Software is the property of the applicable owner and may be protected by
applicable copyright or other law. This License gives you no rights, title,
or interest to Content (including without limitation Content that you post
or create on the Active Worlds server) except the limited license to use the
AW Software as described above.

DISCLAIMER OF WARRANTY. THE SOFTWARE, AW SOFTWARE, AND ANY SERVICES THAT
YOU RECEIVE FROM AWCOM, ARE PROVIDED "AS IS." AWCOM HEREBY DISCLAIMS ALL
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, AND NON-INFRINGEMENT.

LIMITATION OF LIABILITY. You assume the entire risk as to the quality and
performance of the Software or AW Software. AWCOM assumes no liability for
the cost of any service or repair if the Software or AW Software is
defective. Further, you assume the responsibility of, and any costs or
liability associated with, making a connection (by any means) to the Active
Worlds server, and you understand that the Software and AW Software will not
operate without such a connection.

AWCOM exercises no screening, editorial, or other control over Content
available to you through your use of the Software and AW Software, and
Content may include material that could be deemed distasteful, misleading,
inaccurate, offensive, pornographic or otherwise objectionable. Furthermore,
use of the Software or AW Software does not guarantee any privacy or
confidentiality of any Content you post or make available through the
Software and AWCOM assumes no responsibility or liability for the
preservation of such Content and may modify or remove it at AWCOM's sole
discretion. You hereby release AWCOM from any and all liability for all
claims related to Content as well as claims related to the security or level
of privacy provided.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES AND UNDER NO LEGAL THEORY, TORT, CONTRACT, STRICT
LIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE, SHALL AWCOM OR ITS LICENSORS, SUPPLIERS OR
RESELLERS BE LIABLE TO YOU OR ANY OTHER PERSON FOR ANY INDIRECT, SPECIAL,
INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES INCLUDING, WITHOUT LIMITATION, DAMAGES
FOR LOST PROFITS, LOSS OF GOODWILL, WORK STOPPAGE, COMPUTER FAILURE OR
MALFUNCTION, OR ANY AND ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL DAMAGES OR LOSSES. IN NO EVENT
WILL AWCOM BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES IN EXCESS OF AWCOM LIST PRICE FOR A
LICENSE TO THE SOFTWARE, EVEN IF AWCOM SHALL HAVE BEEN INFORMED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.

TERMINATION. AWCOM may, at its sole discretion, terminate this Agreement,
the license granted herein, and your right to use or access the Software, AW
Software, or the Active Worlds server at any time. On termination, you must
destroy all copies of the Software.

ARBITRATION. Any claim alleging a violation of any duty incident to this
Agreement, or your use of the Software or the AW Software, or arising out of
any transaction occurring in Active Worlds, irrespective of the legal theory
asserted, is subject to binding arbitration. This means that both sides
give up all rights to a jury or court trial. The arbitration will take
place, at your choice, either on-line before the Active Worlds Tribunal, or
before a panel of arbitrators at the American Arbitration Association
offices in San Diego, California. In the latter instance, both sides shall
pay half of the fees and expenses associated with the arbitration
proceeding itself, but each side shall be responsible for all costs
associated with traveling to the site of the arbitration, preparing for the
arbitration, and hiring counsel, if desired. In both cases, both sides
shall select an arbitrator from a randomly generated list of available
arbitrators, and those two arbitrators shall select a third.
No punitive or consequent damages (including without limitation statutory
"multiplied," e.g. treble, damages) shall be awarded and the arbitrators
shall be made aware of this limitation.

EXPORT CONTROLS. None of the Software, AW Software or underlying
information or technology may be downloaded or otherwise exported or
re-exported (i) into (or to a national or resident of) Cuba, Iraq, Libya,
Yugoslavia, North Korea, Iran, Syria or any other country to which the U.S.
has embargoed goods; or (ii) into any country in which the U.S. has
embargoed goods, or to anyone on the U.S. Treasury Department's list of
Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Commerce Department's Table of
Deny Orders. By downloading or using the Software, you are agreeing to the
foregoing and you are representing and warranting that you are not located
in, under the control of, or a national or resident of any such country or
on any such list.

MISCELLANEOUS. This Agreement represents the complete license agreement and
supersedes all prior agreements and representations and may only be amended
by a writing executed by the parties. If any provision of this Agreement is
held to be unenforceable for any reason, such provision shall be reformed
only to the extent necessary to make it enforceable. This Agreement shall be
governed by and construed under Massachusetts law.

U.S. GOVERNMENT RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication or disclosure by the
Government is subject to restrictions set forth in subparagraphs (a) through
(d) of the Commercial Computer-Restricted Rights clause at FAR 52.227-19
when applicable, or in subparagraph (c)(1)(ii) of the Rights in Technical
Data and Computer Software clause in DFARS 252.227-7013, and in similar
clauses in the NASA FAR Supplement.

Created and produced by Activeworlds.com, Inc.

Feb 2, 2003, 12:12pm

What contract?

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Feb 2, 2003, 12:13pm

I didn't install AW the usual way... i used the "launch aw" button on the
site which auto-installed and didn't show this.


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Feb 2, 2003, 3:45pm

I meant render as in render the problem to correctness.



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Feb 2, 2003, 3:49pm

I think this is the clause you are violating - or one of them.

"SOFTWARE. This license does not grant you any right to any enhancement or
update. Furthermore, this license does not grant you continued access to AW
Software"

Even if you didn't see it, ignorance of the law is probably going to be no
defence.


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Feb 2, 2003, 4:45pm

[View Quote] English must not be your native language.

--Bowen--

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