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Mar 18, 1999, 9:41pm

Probably not... unless a specific world with each object made up of teeny
tiny rotated block.rwx's was made, which the SDK bot could then build and
made a model of your model (confusing I know)... To do the editing you would
still need a seperate application, and would have to ALT-TAB between AW and
the modeler-turned-SDK-app.

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Mar 20, 1999, 6:21pm

gee Abbot, calm down :) if AW crashed, beta is the newsgroup to report it
in... if it was your bot, well, post the code here that crashes it and maybe
someone will help you :)

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Aug 5, 1999, 1:11am

ya know, Faber, he may not understand the concept of a (linked) list :)

RTFM, Andon :)

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Apr 24, 1998, 11:40pm

Eep, he means like a noise... like those you hear sometimes in 3D
shooters. Yes I agree, he could learn to navigate in VR better, but this
may be a nice option... but pretty far down The List (tm) :)

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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert
Einstein

Apr 25, 1998, 1:07pm

Never said *I* wanted sounds like that... I agree, they are lame.
They're also not in that many 3D games anymore. Again, nice option, and
your way of implementing them sounds fine, but pretty far down The
List(tm).

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

Apr 24, 1998, 11:43pm

lessee Eep... 5 minutes to make the 'original' backup, after which AW
can go online again. 5 minutes, ANY time, 3am or 3pm, to make the backup
of the backup. Use one of them for the searching, use the other one as
the backup. Doesn't seem so hard now, does it? :)

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

Apr 25, 1998, 3:33pm

your street4 (and street5 too probably) can be accomplished by using a
usual 4-way (+) intersection and stopping up the open end with four
sunken (- 4 times, shift and + two times) wall22.rwx's with create
animate me . 1 1 0 on them, but yes, it would be nice to be able to save
the area full space and have the colors match perfectly. Rails to go
with street3... not sure what you mean, but what we REALLY need are
hills (sloped pieces, roofs, etc.) that mesh PERFECTLY with street3.

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"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay

Apr 25, 1998, 3:35pm

oh yeah, and curves... well, they can be faked quite well, check Eep's
property for some real nice smooth gentle curves, or <shameless plug>
check my Building Tips page
(http://home.earthlink.net/~dthknight/aw/tips.html) for a way to do ones
that look OK and curve faster than Eep's do.

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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -
Albert Einstein

Apr 26, 1998, 5:11pm

"create animate me texture 32 1 0 32" can be changed to "create animate
me texture32. 1 1 0", which stops the others from downloading.

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"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay

Apr 26, 1998, 6:42pm

yes that's true... credit given :)

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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -
Albert Einstein

Apr 26, 1998, 2:21pm

Instead of objects just stopping dead 30m, 40m, etc. in front of you,
how about fading them out in a fog-like effect between (for 30m) 25 and
35m? This kind of effect is seen in many flight sims and also I think
it's in a few of the 3D shooters. I guess the proper name for it is
"haze" but I'm not sure... Still a neat idea, whatever it is called :)

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

Apr 26, 1998, 3:06pm

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Somewhat... faded out... The best example I could find is attached -
this is from Microsoft (ugh!) Flight Simulator... 5 mile visibility,
about to fly over Biscayne Bay (off Miami), you can see a few of the
islands in the bay, but not quite all the way to Miami Beach. In AW,
from a certain point you might be able to see the nearby cafe (slightly
shrouded in haze), but not the nightclub across the street.

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Apr 29, 1998, 8:46pm

*munches cookie.rwx* hmm I'm getting good at stealing these cookies...
:)

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

Apr 26, 1998, 9:16pm

well I think they'll spot it this time, since it went in awcommunity
(and violated the charter), but... think the CC field above will cover
it if not :)

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

May 5, 1998, 9:23pm

But you can tell it's decompressed... it's what Eep calls "lossy"
compression. How about as a GIF? I know the number of colors will need
reducing, but I'm just curious :) and why doesn't someone make a
GIF-like format that compresses nicely without loss like GIF does, and
allows 16-bit/24-bit/etc. colors like JPG? Or is that what PNG is
supposed to be?

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"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay

May 8, 1998, 5:58pm

You still can't drag them with the mouse though... only with the Object
Properties toolbar or the arrow keys.

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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert
Einstein

May 12, 1998, 8:21pm

program stuff;

var
x: integer;

begin
for x:=1 to 100 do
writeln ('Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it
wrong.');
readln;
end.

Got the message Eep? :))

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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -
Albert Einstein

Dec 24, 1998, 1:13am

*personal opinion of a 17 year old* many 10 year olds are mature enough to
not need monitoring. I think below that yes, monitoring is in order. And
personally I think this Bill guy isn't mature enough... plus tourists are
annoying sometimes :) Then again, some tourists are a delight to be
around... a lot of it is just what kind of person the 10-12 year old is -
some are wonderfully funny and smart kids who don't need one minute's worth
of watching on the Net. :)

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May 23, 1998, 12:49am

Roland, do we really WANT to know your opinion on Saddam Hussein? :)
seriously though, the night effect you introduced us to tonight is neat,
and would be great if it could be done every night... here's a hint: use
VRT! :)

*goes off to bed feeling happy and hoping for a positive response in the
morning*

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

May 23, 1998, 6:06pm

Interesting, however I can see where people would not like it if a world
owner 'forced' them to use a night backdrop when it was still light by
them - i.e. the world owner lives in Florida, you live in Maine, it's
summer, and it's 10pm - in Florida it's well dark (usually) by then, but
in Maine it's still dusky. Also a conflict may come in if those Aussie's
or Europeans say 'it's noon here, yet AW is still using a night
backdrop!'... at least VRT is a bit more of a compromise, and so basing
it on VRT would be nice (like I said in beta), as would basing it on
local time.

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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -
Albert Einstein

May 25, 1998, 8:46pm

While you do have to go to another world and come back again, you don't
have to restart the browser OR clear your cache... just replace the
default backdrop (in AW that's fall_day, and you may wish to change
fall_nit2 as well.) To make sure AW doesn't overwrite the file, you have
to make it read only, and one can easily make a little batch file such
as the one below to protect and unprotect the backdrop(s):

[--protect.bat--]
at echo off
F:
cd "\Active Worlds\cache\art\objects.activeworlds.com-aw\textures"
attrib +r fall_day.bmp
attrib +r fall_nit2.bmp
cd \
echo Backdrops protected.
C:
[--end--]

I have this and a similar unprotect.bat sitting in the root directory of
my C drive, where they are accessible all the time (thanks to PATH=C:\
in my autoexec.bat). If I ever want to change the backdrop(s), just load
Paint Shop Pro, change them, run unprotect.bat, save it/them, and run
protect.bat. So now I have a 'day' sky with clouds in it, and a 'night'
sky adapted from the 'day' one. Only problem: they don't blend nicely
with the 'AW blue' background color at the top :((

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"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay

May 26, 1998, 7:35pm

well I don't own a world, and the majority of citizens don't either...
The method I'm using - and that Tyrell has been using for how long now
Tyrell? :) - works whether you have a world or not, with features we
KNOW to work well - as opposed to the new and possibly buggy local path
option. Personally I don't want an exact duplicate copy of COF's artwork
sitting on my computer, it was bad enough running a trial world...

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

May 24, 1998, 6:03pm

OK person who has The Continuum in his/her organization field: how about
letting us IN those (Continuum) worlds? ;)

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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert
Einstein

May 31, 1998, 2:11pm

I think Roland was originally planning to put the avatars in a tab -
maybe a pop-up menu featuring 'preview' could work as well?

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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -
Albert Einstein

May 31, 1998, 4:52pm

I know that's what you said, but double-clicking? Keep it consistent
with the other tabs... a pop-up menu would allow previewing (and other
options too?), and single-clicking would change your avatar. We don't
double-click in any of the other tabs, so why do it here?

[View Quote] P.S. One would have thought you could at least spell correctly and not
make mistakes in ng posts... you're worse here than in AW :)

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"But the beginning of things, of a world especially, is necessarily
vague, tangled, chaotic, and exceedingly disturbing..." - Kate Chopin,
"The Awakening"

Jun 5, 1998, 6:20pm

I agree that the BACKDROPS to use should be world-server set, however I
think it should be up to the user to decide between:
o 24-hr day
o 24-hr night
o switching based on time zone, suboptions include:
- VRT
- local time
- GMT-x where X is specified via a box-arrow control (like the
visibility/fps settings)

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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert
Einstein

Jun 15, 1998, 3:41pm

The avatars (at least Butch, who I use and have "observed" a fair
amount) don't do the action buttons while they are just sitting there -
or at least they shouldn't. Butch doesn't begin leaping up doing his
happy.seq randomly - you have to make him do it. Birde, however, does
sometimes 'flap' (flap.seq) by himself - although I personally don't
mind that. You're not playing left field... not THAT far out... more
like a center fielder drifting left a bit to catch a fly ball :)

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"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new." -
Albert Einstein

Jun 17, 1998, 3:36pm

stop making an ass out of u and me, TZ :)

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"The best way to predict the future is to invent it." - Alan Kay

Jun 18, 1998, 3:07pm

well there are 4 quotes that rotate through a signature change
program... and yes you did assume... I think you'll like the one that
happened to appear at the bottom of THIS post, though :)

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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert
Einstein

Jun 17, 1998, 3:39pm

m0e, eject bans (temporarily of course) the IP, not the person... and
even if it DID ban (temporarily) the person, they could still come back
as a tourist with a different IP... I think that's right at least :)

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"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." - Albert
Einstein

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