MULTIPLE SELECTING (Wishlist)

MULTIPLE SELECTING // Wishlist

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princess tia

May 8, 1998, 12:33pm
Would be great if we could hold the mouse button down and drag around a
group of
objects to select those objects for movement or deletion.

Princess Tia

eep²

May 8, 1998, 12:45pm
Wait until 2.0.

[View Quote] > Would be great if we could hold the mouse button down and drag around a
> group of
> objects to select those objects for movement or deletion.

dthknight

May 8, 1998, 5:58pm
You still can't drag them with the mouse though... only with the Object
Properties toolbar or the arrow keys.

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eep²

May 8, 1998, 7:11pm
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You're right. But I think Tia is talking about selecting multiple objects with the mouse, not moving multiple objects with the mouse. Although 2.0 won't allow selecting multiple objects by dragging the mouse, it does allow selecting multiple objects by clicking and holding down a key.

It would be nice to be able to move objects with the mouse, as well, though, but AW would need to have what most RWX viewers (RWXMod, RWXLook, RWView, etc) have: 3D mouse movement.

[View Quote] > You still can't drag them with the mouse though... only with the Object
> Properties toolbar or the arrow keys.

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You're right. But I think Tia is talking about <I>selecting</I> multiple
objects with the mouse, not <I>moving</I> multiple objects with the mouse.
Although 2.0 won't allow <I>selecting</I> multiple objects by <I>dragging</I>
the mouse, it does allow selecting multiple objects by <I>clicking</I>
and holding down a key.

<P>It <I>would</I> be nice to be able to <I>move</I> objects with the mouse,
as well, though, but AW would need to have what most RWX viewers (RWXMod,
RWXLook, RWView, etc) have: 3D mouse movement.

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dean

May 8, 1998, 8:05pm
I may be strange, but I prefer the way it is. I tried the viscape 3d
world development kit demo. It has the ability to drag and drop and
resize objects by point and drag right in the world, but it does not
support online building (and the software does not support chat.
Also, the problem with dragging objects would be that of precision.
Keypad movement provides more precision for me and that is what I
prefer.
This could be feasible if there were a way to implement an auto
allignment which could be toggled on or off. This way, it could be
readjusted according to the surrounding objects.

Dean


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facter

May 10, 1998, 1:04pm
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I think it would be damn hard to implement a three dimensional mouse
select, unless you were going to do it with a point to point selection .
.. that way you could select a 3d area. . still damn sifficult to even
think about doing tho =)


[View Quote] > You're right. But I think Tia is talking about selecting multiple
> objects with the mouse, not moving multiple objects with the mouse.
> Although 2.0 won't allow selecting multiple objects by dragging the
> mouse, it does allow selecting multiple objects by clicking and
> holding down a key.
>
> It would be nice to be able to move objects with the mouse, as well,
> though, but AW would need to have what most RWX viewers (RWXMod,
> RWXLook, RWView, etc) have: 3D mouse movement.
>
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I think it would be damn hard to implement a three dimensional mouse select,
unless you were going to do it with a point to point selection . . that
way you could select a 3d area.&nbsp; . still damn sifficult to even think
about doing tho =)
<BR>&nbsp;

[View Quote] <P>It <I>would</I> be nice to be able to <I>move</I> objects with the mouse,
as well, though, but AW would need to have what most RWX viewers (RWXMod,
RWXLook, RWView, etc) have: 3D mouse movement.

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eep²

May 10, 1998, 1:09pm
One way is use left-right mouse movement for x-axis selection, up-down mouse movement for y-axis selection, and a key (shift, alt, or ctrl) + up/down mouse movement for z-axis selection.

[View Quote] > I think it would be damn hard to implement a three dimensional mouse select, unless you were going to do it with a point to point selection . . that way you could select a 3d area. . still damn sifficult to even think about doing tho =)

princess tia

May 10, 1998, 2:06pm
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yes, i was referring to "selecting" objects ..for instance, if a cell
contained numerous objects, and one could drag the mouse around those
objects in a circular fashion, then all those objects
within that "circle" would then be selected and highlighted, ready for
the next operation, whether it be movement, to delete, or whatever :)

PT

[View Quote] > You're right. But I think Tia is talking about selecting multiple
> objects with the mouse, not moving multiple objects with the mouse.
> Although 2.0 won't allow selecting multiple objects by dragging the
> mouse, it does allow selecting multiple objects by clicking and
> holding down a key.
>
> It would be nice to be able to move objects with the mouse, as well,
> though, but AW would need to have what most RWX viewers (RWXMod,
> RWXLook, RWView, etc) have: 3D mouse movement.
>
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yes, i was referring to "selecting" objects ..for instance, if a cell contained
numerous objects, and one could drag the mouse around those objects in
a circular fashion, then all those objects
<BR>within that "circle" would then be selected and&nbsp; highlighted,
ready for the next operation, whether it be movement, to delete, or whatever
:)

<P>PT

[View Quote] <P>It <I>would</I> be nice to be able to <I>move</I> objects with the mouse,
as well, though, but AW would need to have what most RWX viewers (RWXMod,
RWXLook, RWView, etc) have: 3D mouse movement.

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eep²

May 10, 1998, 4:18pm
Again, wait for 2.0, which allows selection of ALL objects in a cell (holding Ctrl while selecting), and selecting/deselecting objects in succession by holding Shift while selecting. You can't copy multiple objects but you can delete/move them.

[View Quote] > yes, i was referring to "selecting" objects ..for instance, if a cell contained numerous objects, and one could drag the mouse around those objects in a circular fashion, then all those objects
> within that "circle" would then be selected and highlighted, ready for the next operation, whether it be movement, to delete, or whatever :)

raven shadow

May 10, 1998, 4:59pm
BUT , Rolland has stated that copying multiple objects will be enabled as
soon as current problems are worked out and as soon as means for worlds to
protect thier world from the potential abuse of that function :-)

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eep²

May 10, 1998, 7:10pm
Right, but until it's actually implemented, it ain't there yet.

[View Quote] > BUT , Rolland has stated that copying multiple objects will be enabled as
> soon as current problems are worked out and as soon as means for worlds to
> protect thier world from the potential abuse of that function :-)

raven shadow

May 10, 1998, 9:38pm
Ummm ... isn't that just a little obvious ?? :-P

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eep²

May 10, 1998, 9:38pm
You tell me, zippy...

[View Quote] > Ummm ... isn't that just a little obvious ?? :-P

raven shadow

May 10, 1998, 10:06pm
Don't gotta zippo , you said it , you tell us :-()==~~~~










well....
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I'm waiting ....
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eep²

May 11, 1998, 4:33am
Shut up, please. You're being lame.

[View Quote] > Don't gotta zippo , you said it , you tell us :-()==~~~~
>
> well....
> ....
>
> ....
> I'm waiting ....
> .....
> ....

princess tia

May 11, 1998, 11:53am
hmm kewl, ok :) thanks :)

PT

[View Quote] > Again, wait for 2.0, which allows selection of ALL objects in a cell (holding Ctrl while selecting), and selecting/deselecting objects in succession by holding Shift while selecting. You can't copy multiple objects but you can delete/move them.
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raven shadow

May 11, 1998, 12:43pm
Yes , isn't mirroring fun ??

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eep²

May 11, 1998, 8:32pm
Only when you do it correctly, lamer.

[View Quote] > Yes , isn't mirroring fun ??

technozeus

May 11, 1998, 8:56pm
Actually, it should be possible to make a polyhedron based select where each
object you select in this way would add to the points on the outer edge of a
polyhedra or a poligonal vertical prism in which all objects enclosed by the
defined area would be added to the selected group. Not that difficult to
use, and probably not difficult to add to the program either... although I'm
sure it won't be in 2.0 since it might be a bit difficult to thoroughly
test, and it would definately take up too much time to get put into the
works right now. (IMO)

TechnoZeus

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technozeus

May 11, 1998, 9:34pm
Please stop. You are both capable of much more productive input.

TechnoZeus

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eep²

May 11, 1998, 10:10pm
Um...yea. "Not difficult to add to the program"...this is COF, remember? They haven't even figured out how to have lists refresh without resetting. Care to clarify what you're babbling about?

[View Quote] > Actually, it should be possible to make a polyhedron based select where each
> object you select in this way would add to the points on the outer edge of a
> polyhedra or a poligonal vertical prism in which all objects enclosed by the
> defined area would be added to the selected group. Not that difficult to
> use, and probably not difficult to add to the program either... although I'm
> sure it won't be in 2.0 since it might be a bit difficult to thoroughly
> test, and it would definately take up too much time to get put into the
> works right now. (IMO)

eep²

May 11, 1998, 10:11pm
Productivity is relative.

[View Quote] > Please stop. You are both capable of much more productive input.

raven shadow

May 12, 1998, 2:19am
Too true :-)
but , i do so enjoy entertaining children ..*snicker*
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technozeus

May 12, 1998, 3:36am
Exactly my point. Relatively more would be nice. :·)

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technozeus

May 12, 1998, 3:37am
Thought it "was" clear. What part are you having trouble understanding?

TechnoZeus

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eep²

May 12, 1998, 3:58am
Ah but WHAT would you like more relatively? Even "more" is relative. It's all a matter of perspective, see.

[View Quote] > Exactly my point. Relatively more would be nice. :·)

eep²

May 12, 1998, 3:59am
Oh, from about the first word to the, oh, let's see...last. Yea, that should cover it. Wow...dig it.

[View Quote] > Thought it "was" clear. What part are you having trouble understanding?
>
> TechnoZeus
>
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technozeus

May 12, 1998, 5:10am
More productive than the childish bickering that led me to post a message
asking you to stop doing it... or pick a higher goal if you feel up to it.
:·)

TechnoZeus

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technozeus

May 12, 1998, 5:35am
Okay, I'll give it a shot...

"Actually, it should be possible" is a statement declairing the likelyness
of a possibility.

"to make a polyhedron based select" is a prepositional phrase which taken in
the context of my earlier post states that what is likely to be possible is
the addition of a feature to ActiveWorlds that would allow a polyhedral
space to be selected.

"where" is an indicator of position, used in this case to connect the idea
with it's descriptor.

"each object you select in this way" indicates the sum of objects which are
individually chosen to be included in the definition of the polyhedral
space.

"would add to the points" indicates the modification of the polyhedral space
to include the selected points in 3D space as a consequence of polyhedral
selection of objects.

"on the outer edge of a polyhedra" indicates a location potentially on the
outer boundries of the polyhedral space.

"or a poligonal vertical prism" mentioned to highlight the fact that the
polyhedral space could alternatively be defined by the definition of a
polygon parallel to the ground plane by including all objects within that
polygon at any altitude.

"in which all objects enclosed by the defined area would be added to the
selected group." indicates that once such a polyhedron is defined, all
objects whose point of origin are within the defined polyhedron would be
selected as a group.

"Not that difficult to use," basically means that just about anyone could
successfully select a group of objects in this mannor without having to be
able to see all of the objects they wish to select.

"and probably not difficult to add to the program either..." Means that
the math and logic involved are not very complex and much of the needed
coding is already in the program.

"although I'm sure it won't be in 2.0" means that I do not expect to see
such a feature in the next comming release version of ActiveWorlds.

"since it might be a bit difficult to thoroughly test," specifies the wide
range of possible test situations as a reason why I do not expect this
feature to be introduced in the version 2.0 beta for ActiveWorlds.

"and it would definately take up too much time to get put into the works
right now." means that I think the programmers are keeping busy already.

"(IMO)" means In My Opinion.

Hope that clears it up a bit.

TechnoZeus.

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eep²

May 12, 1998, 6:52am
You're just not getting the idea of "relativity", Tech. Allow me to further explain: what's "bickering" to you, may be "discussion" to me. What's a "higher goal" to you, may seem like "wanting to slap you around with a bit of trout" to me. What's "productive" to you, may seem like "don't make me smack you, fanboy" to me. Get it yet or shall I beat it into your brain some more?

[View Quote] > More productive than the childish bickering that led me to post a message
> asking you to stop doing it... or pick a higher goal if you feel up to it.
> :·)
>
> TechnoZeus
>
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