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Nov 29, 1998, 10:23pm

I'm glad you're not going to study economy :))

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Nov 30, 1998, 11:37pm

No one said you were god.... however, one could get the impression you
*think you* are god...

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Dec 2, 1998, 7:36pm

Translation of Rolu's text:

"Cubic, shut up will you. Your use of language is simply insulting. You're
flaming all the time and you're behaving like one of those todlers at
school, or, for I care, Sjoerd, who thinks it looks tough to insult. That's
exactly what you're doing. You're behaving far too agressive. Calm down. And
READ what people write, before typing an angry reply. You're behaving
exactly like Eep on one of his bad days, with the difference you spend your
time on some useful things too. So behave normal now, before the whole
newsgroup considers you a big jerk. You say you're just flaming when you
think necessary, but I've seen little, if not nothing, different. I know you
behave really different in real life, so why don't you here?"

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Dec 3, 1998, 5:48pm

Oops... yer right.

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Nov 23, 1998, 11:10pm

Experience? A 14-year old? :)

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Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has
limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so
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Nov 24, 1998, 3:04am

Just for the record... i wasn't talking about cubic... he's 17. I was
talking about josh.

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Nov 26, 1998, 1:35am

Yep. Me. Heheh... Still interested? :)

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Nov 26, 1998, 1:37am

Nah... e-mail isn't that nice... ngs are fun to have flame threads in
because there's always a lot of protest... :)

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Nov 26, 1998, 3:44pm

Your freedom seems to be some christian freedom. If you feel you need to be
free of obscenity, you just shouldn't enter this universe. Maybe it's an
idea to add an option to the browsers that will give the viewers control
over whether or not custom avatars are displayed as such.

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>Is this true? What about those users who want to have a place where
>they will
>not have to be subject to obscenity, pornography and desecration of
>their sacred
>icons. Freedom of speech is one thing, but what about freedom of
>decency???
>Is it not a right, too???
>
>
>What about those worlds that have a theme? Allowing ANY avatar in
>that world
>would totally destroy the effect. One such world, for example, is
>Outland. I
>think it is cool how each avatar has a role to play in the story. I
>am
>working on a world where the avatars complement the theme of the world.
>
>Having custom avatars in ALL worlds will ruin months of hard work and
>for
>what? So some jerk can come in and assault the senses of the innocent
>chatters
>who just want to have a good time?
>
>I believe in freedom, but even freedom has its limits. Your freedom
>ends when
>it crosses over my freedom. I paid for my world and I will not have
>anybody
>dictate what avatars will and will not be allowed in my world. I will
>cancel
>my account first. I might as well if I cannot have the freedom to do
>with my
>own property what I wish, within reason.

Nov 26, 1998, 9:44pm

[View Quote] >The real world works exactly the way Dean suggested. Show up under dressed
>or over dressed just about anywhere in RL and you get censored. Show up in
>Saudi Arabia wearing the wrong thing and you get arrested. Show up at the
>beach in Rio (Brazil) wearing the wrong thing and you are viewed as a
>tourist, idiot, or prude.

Yeah. But does that mean that these 'real' things, that I don't like, should
also exist in VL? Do we have to incorporate them? Do we have to restrict
people? Should there be 'discrimination' against people? Why limit people in
their freedom? I think that the cons of RL should not be implemented in VL.

>What is wrong with the idea of wanting to
>control the use (allow or disallow) of custom avatars in one's own world.


No. There's nothing wrong with it. It would be best. However, it's not the
way the custom avatars will be implemented...

>Because different worlds have different "ratings", it may be possible to
>to tag an avatar with a rating as well. As long as the avatar's rating is
>lower or equal to the world's rating, it is allowed to be used there (if
>custom avatars are allowed in that world). The problem is that the rating
>of the avatars must be voluntary.

Eh... ratings for *custom* avatars?? Doesn't look very useful. If one uses
an avatar s/he knows to be possibly offending... would s/he then accept to
be rated? Not many, at least...

>Perhaps there needs to be a way to visually "mute" an offending avatar --
>turn it into a "tourist" avatar.

Sounds good. The viewer able to mute specific avs according to their own
ideas.

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Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has
limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so
poor at I/O.

Nov 27, 1998, 1:36am

[View Quote] Wait a sec cubic. There isn't a conflict about that. I *do* think the choice
of allowing custom avatars should be for the world-owner, not decided for
the entire universe. However, Roland said it will be universe-based, not
world-based. Hence it is trivial to consider this thought.
Question then is: should the viewer be given the possibility of disabling
the viewing of custom avatars, be it for all custavs, or for each custav
individually? Personally I think the viewer should have such an option, as I
said in another post (on wl and/or awc).

>I think the world-owner should be able to turn it on and off. If you make a
>world that looks like space (like Rolu is planning) and you want avatars
>like astronauts and aliens. Wouldn't it be horrible if somebody showed up
in
>a bikini ?!?!

Rolu and I will probably buy a world next year and we haven't made any
definite decisions yet. He may well try it in a trial world, but that
doesn't mean anything.
Back to topic: yes, it wouldn't seem that appropriate. However, here again:
it seems to be definite: allowance of custavs is universe-based, not
world-based. Nothing you or I can do about that.

>If you start a world I think it's because you wanna make something that
>looks cool. So you want the avatars to fit in. SO I think the world owner
>should determine what avatars are available in his world.

I don't get the impression you ever read LittleCupid's postings lately, have
you, cubic?

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limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so
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Nov 27, 1998, 1:48am

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<sigh> What I mean, you fool, is that if you don't like the place, then piss
off. If you don't like gay bars (just an example), then don't go there. If
you don't like the situation in any place, you'd better not enter.

[Reply continues after this:]

>Why is it always the ones who desire a place to be decent who are always
looked
>upon unfavorably. Why does the pervert always get looked upon as the
>victim? Why do people jump all over someone in a newsgroup for calling a
>friend a "snatch," while at the same time defending the right to call
someone a
>"snatch" in chat? I think it is just as hypocritical as they accuse us
>Christians of being.

>Although I am appalled at it when it happens, and have compassion for the
victim
>of the attack, I see it as another hypocrisy. It seems that such
attacks
>are protected by the free speech advocates as long as it happens to an
unknown,
>not themselves or someone they care about.
>
>Besides, why is it always freedom to commit indecency that is the great
"freedom
>of speech" campaign? What about my freedom? What about the freedom of
>those who frequent my world? Who stands up for their freedom?
>
>If you think I am a prude, I am not easily offended, but I do have others
to
>think about and I do wish to protect the theme of my world. And I am
sick of
>seeing "freedom of speech" being used to protect juveniles with loose
tongues,
>perverts and malicious hacks.


*!?!* You need a psych man! You are making false generalizations and you are
overreacting. You're pathetic. I do *not* consider you to be in any way
pitiable. Gimme a break.

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Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has
limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so
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Nov 30, 1998, 7:02am

It can hardly be called ascii-art.... more like ascii-shit.... ;-)

Anyway, I am getting the impression you're flaming for the flaming.... I
recommend you to stop or you may get flamed yourself...

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Dec 2, 1998, 7:24pm

I'm not a registered AW user. Does that exclude me from 26707?

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Dec 5, 1998, 10:31pm

A simple calculation shows that

104/4 = 26;
sqrt(39-37) = sqrt(2)

However, 26-sqrt(2) != 24

I know your spelling sucks, but I hoped your math would be better ;-)

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Dec 14, 1998, 5:25pm

Day/month/year and GMT.

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Jan 1, 1999, 7:18pm

1) I don't really get what message you're replying to :)
2) The message you replied to is only half a month old :)

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Jan 2, 1999, 7:23am

Quite simple: because it was a reply to a message half a month old, perhaps?
:)

With 1) I mean I don't get WHY the message was a reply to that particular
message.... couldn't quite make a link...

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Dec 14, 1998, 5:25pm

Cause AW to crash. Shouldn't be too hard.

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Dec 15, 1998, 6:35am

Is there something wrong with your reply or is it my reader (OLX)? I see
your reply as a reply to a post by Just In, not to my post.

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Dec 15, 1998, 6:36am

Too bad.... :( .... It's the most real answer there is.... :( :)

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Dec 15, 1998, 9:36pm

Are you new here? :)

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Dec 16, 1998, 8:01am

Which name JP used then? :)

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Dec 15, 1998, 9:36pm

Are you new here? :)

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Dec 16, 1998, 4:13pm

Now cubic's question *was* a rhetorical question.... :)

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Dec 18, 1998, 6:14am

I wasn't 'fucking' patronising you. But now you just gave me the feeling I
should have done so!

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:15pm

[View Quote] Vote????? For a faq contents!?

>-The ideas on the list with the most votes will be on top of the list, the
>ideas with the least votes at the end. So, the most wanted ideas will be on
>top.

Usually a faq is ordered alphabetically or by some *logical* way...

>I will list the idea, and the number of people that voted on the idea
>since the idea was added to the list.

Completely superfluous and unimportant.

>-The list will be posted to this newsgroup occasionally, and I will put it
>on my webpage.
>-The list will contain ideas about possible improvements to AW, thus
>everything that can be posted to the wishlist ng, but in a sorted way.

Sorted by voting numbers? Ridiculous.


I'm not at all against a faq, but keep it to what it's supposed to be.

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>So, send in your ideas to: rolu99 at mediaport.org !!! I hope to hear from all
>of you soon, and as soon as I have a few wishes, I'll post this list so you
>can vote.
>
>
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Dec 19, 1998, 3:19pm

OOOPSS.... SORRY

I mistook your 'list' for a faq. Again, sorry.

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Dec 19, 1998, 3:22pm

Or at least I hope you didn't really mean 'a faq'. :)

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Dec 23, 1998, 9:19pm

Sorry?

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