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What's your preference - traditional or mocap?
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What's your preference - traditional or mocap? // Roundtable
Post by mrbones // Mar 24, 2006, 5:35am
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Nothing..
Just wanted to be different for a change..
Cheers
Hi MrBones, What happened with you avatar ? |
Post by Johny // Mar 24, 2006, 6:24am
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Nothing..
Just wanted to be different for a change..
Cheers
Wow... see my avatar :D |
Post by mrbones // Mar 31, 2006, 10:56am
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Anyone who votes for Mocap gets 50% off any TrueBones product or service.
Including the new FBX motion librarys...
Thanks again and Cheers.
Mr. Bones |
Post by Alien // Mar 31, 2006, 11:23am
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Anyone who votes for Mocap gets 50% off any TrueBones product or service.
Including the new FBX motion librarys...
Thanks again and Cheers.
Mr. Bones
Trying to buy votes, eh? Ever thought of a career in politics? :p |
Post by mrbones // Mar 31, 2006, 11:25am
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At least im putting money where my mouth is. :D
Thinking of changing your vote?
Cheers
Trying to buy votes, eh? Ever thought of a career in politics? :p |
Post by Alien // Mar 31, 2006, 12:59pm
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Thinking of changing your vote?
No, I still prefer the idea of traditional/keyframing. |
Post by mrbones // Apr 1, 2006, 7:39am
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No Problem,
Thanks again and Cheers |
Post by mrbones // Apr 5, 2006, 6:01pm
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This animation is a hybrid of mocap/traditional and simulation keyframe techniques combined.
Who would like to see such a system in TrueSpace?
Cheers |
Post by mrbones // Apr 6, 2006, 8:53am
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Me and Johny Collaborated on this one. Enjoy,
Rigged attached and rendered with motion blur in about 10 minutes...
Cheers |
Post by Johny // Apr 6, 2006, 1:39pm
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This one look great :banana:
What about another action with color ? |
Post by Steinie // Apr 6, 2006, 1:52pm
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Mesmerizing!!
It's hard to stop watching the little guy. Very nice and likeable. |
Post by mrbones // Apr 6, 2006, 2:23pm
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No Problem,
What kind of motion? and can you send me the texture?
Thanks
This one look great :banana:
What about another action with color ? |
Post by Johny // Apr 6, 2006, 2:46pm
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it's up to you. make it your best :)
Edit You can download it here (http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showpost.php?p=6644&postcount=24) |
Post by mrbones // Apr 6, 2006, 6:03pm
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OK Will Try... Cheers
it's up to you. make it your best :)
Edit You can download it here (http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showpost.php?p=6644&postcount=24) |
Post by Johny // Apr 6, 2006, 9:51pm
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read your PM MrBones ;) |
Post by mrbones // Apr 7, 2006, 6:28am
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Ok, I did,
Thanks Johny. |
Post by mrbones // Apr 8, 2006, 6:36am
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I decided that it was unfair to offer a 50% discount on Motion Librarys to just Mocap voters.
Now 50% discount to all who vote here.
Thanks again and Cheers |
Post by mrbones // Apr 18, 2006, 7:25pm
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I think the answer to your question is clear by now.
Most people in this community prefer traditional/handKeyed animation.
That to me is suprising given the native animation tools that are provided in TrueSpace.
There must be a lot of MOSTU users voting.
As far as Mocap, I continue to use it in favor of Trad/Hand simply because it is easier for me to create better animations more quickly than I could using the current native bone tools.
I deduce that Mocap is geared more for Game Developers and Non-Hobbiests. (ie: industry professionals)
I'm prepared to wade through any harsh comments to see what the outcome is.
What sparked it is lately I'm getting the feeling that there are only a few of us trueSpace users that prefer traditional/hand-keyed character animation while the majority likes mocap. Is this so? I know what the consensus is in the industry, but what about within the trueSpace community at the hobbyist level?
Thanks, guys! I'm interested in seeing the outcome. |
Post by mrbones // Apr 18, 2006, 7:45pm
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Frank,
Some questions I should not dignify with an answer, But in simple defense of your slander of the below mentioned animation (created by Mantis Motion in Seattle), thats how they used to dance, They would slide their feet around a little bit.
As far as full control? Thats also debatable, and A silly notion seeing how the tradtional keyframing tools are somewhat limited in TrueSpace.
Even though you may have that control, can you acheive the realism and fluidity that mocap provides with 2 clicks of the mouse?
Or would you spend 20 years becoming a master character animator to spite my point?
My Point being that mocap is a good product for those people who are un-familar with trad/hand animating and is the chosen alternative to overly arduous or laborious animating techniques. Mocap is esspecially good for begginer animators as they can use it as a living real time reference in 3 dimensions.
Not everyone wants to be an animator, Some just want to try it out...
:)
Really the jitter isn't nearly as bad as the 'moonwalk' phenomenon.
For an example, go here and check out the "Al Jolsen" dance. While a cool-looking mocap piece, it clearly shows foot slide:
http://forums1.caligari.com/truespace/showthread.php?p=4496
Hopefully I've illustrated the fact that mocap is limited whereas with keyframed animation, you can animate whatever you want and have full control over it. |
Post by mrbones // Apr 21, 2006, 11:47am
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Heres some motions I created in trueSpace utilizing Mocap, Just recently..
Click Here for Movie. (http://www.exileniteclub.com/m2.WMV) |
Post by mrbones // Apr 21, 2006, 12:00pm
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Win a Complete Mocap Studio Worth Over $20,000!!!! (http://animazoo.vnewscenter.com/contentAccess/4-20revisedTDW77.comp_final.pdf;jsessionid=3D253C0B1 90F66EBBA182082AB7D8103?contentId=1144696242951)
If anyone needs help converting their model to FBX for submission, Let me know.
I am willing to help anyone who wishes to enter this contest.
Cheers. |
Post by mrbones // Aug 18, 2006, 3:40pm
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http://www.phasespace.com/
Interesting link, Check it out. |
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