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Aug 10, 2001, 6:24pm

I've not said a word about Custom Avatars because i personally ( prepares
for the flames) think they are a waste of bandwidth.

One things that would errode some of the problems that have been talked
about here would be to have "SEMI" custom avatars. Instead of ppl uploading
their own seqs , textures etc .... why cant there be a section of the
browser for you to build one from pre loaded ones?

For instance.... brown female long hair? short male blonde hair? male
bearded face? female face with glasses? red long dress? green short dress?

The choices could be limited or extensive

check the choices and build a avatar :o)

just a thought

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Aug 10, 2001, 6:51pm

That would be an interesting way to do it... then only a number or sequence of numbers would have to be stored. Nice :)

-Agent1

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Aug 10, 2001, 8:12pm

I totally agree with you, I think custom AVs is a waste of time and space. People will abuse it, not use it, or take it for
granted. I think it is completeley unnecessary and that there are many other things which should me much higher on the list, more as
a neccessity then just things desired, such as Custom AVs. However, like kellee, I also agree that If they were to implement custom
AVs having a "av maker" thing installed in the browser (like hoyle's) would be great, where you can mix and match shapes and
designes and textures to create your very own custom avatar, however make it so people can't have 50 meter AVs or .2 meter AVs. As
a person in charge of a Paintball world, custom AVs are a nightmare in the making. If any user can come in using any avatar they
want they can make it litterally impossible to be hit, the entire point of the game would be lost.

Thanks, J B E L L


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Aug 10, 2001, 11:32pm

I can't disagree with the potential for bandwidth wasting and/or abuse of
custom avatars. That's one reason why it needs to be a world option so the
world owner can decide if they want to allow them or not. It's also a reason
to have file size limits for the avatars and textures.

As far as semi- custom avatars go there used to be a program called Avatar
Maker that allowed you to do what you're asking to do. You could create your
avatar, tall, fat, thin, short, various hair styles etc. It did have various
accessories you could have including glasses, hats, and other things. You
could even use your own picture on the face and control the level of detail
( verts) . The down side was getting it into rwx or cob format although it
could be done. It would be great if AW or someone re-developed this for our
use since they are no longer in buisiness. Whether custom or semi-custom
avatars the whole idea is individuality.

Although some downloading would be saved if all the avatars used the same
seqs the overall savings wouldn't be much more significant than custom
avatars. Each type of avatar would still have to be individually downloaded.
Again, no overall size savings if custom avatars sizes were limited. I do
agree 100% with what Rick said about getting the browers into 1 version
before adding any significant new changes to it.

Casay

There
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Aug 11, 2001, 10:35am

Talk World, another 3-D chat program allows its users to assemble a custom
avatar from a selection of heads, torsos (different shirts), upper leg/thigh
(pants, skirts) area and feet (shoes, boots, etc.).

The program also features voice chat as well as text and the ability to
leave voice mail messages.

http://www.talkworld-online.com/

Nobody is ever there though....
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Aug 11, 2001, 10:42am

I do believe "semi custom avs" already can be done. Each av would only have
one texture in the rwx. This texture would be only one jpeg having all the
texture parts you need with each part of the texture fitting the part of the
av body it is suppose to be on. So if you have a dozen bodies and 100
textures, you have 100 semi custom avs. Have no idea how this would work on
a world like Alpha though.
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Aug 11, 2001, 11:56am

Are you suggesting the 'random avatar Bot maker'?
icey

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Aug 11, 2001, 1:41pm

On the screenshots the AVs there look like facers.
I think that would be a big step back for AW.



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Aug 11, 2001, 2:56pm

Hello Enzo,
Thank you for responding to my letter here in the NG. This is the best
public information I've ever seen concerning AW, it's direction, software
development & the future in years. I agree 100% that getting AW back into
one version has to be the top priority before other features are added. Yes,
many of us have experienced the problems that have developed over time due
to backwards compatibility.

Again, I'm very pleased that you wrote such a sincere an open letter
explaining why things are being done the way they are. I hope it helps all
of us to clear up a lot of the mis-conceptions that we had ( including me )
about the direction of AW. Looking forward to 3.2 and beyond!
Casay
PS - Please don't be a stranger in here. You've accomplished a lot to help
bring the community back around with just a couple of postings. Thanks
again!



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Aug 11, 2001, 3:48pm

Worlds Chat has the same kind of thing, except their avs are actually
3D. :) You can choose heads and arms and all sorts of other thing, even
pick the colors. It's definitely a good system, and I think AWC could
make a similar system for AW. But I agree that it would require a major
change to the current avatar system, so there's no point in working on
it now while they're still trying to get everyone up to the same level.
(i.e. nixing 2.2)

[View Quote] > Talk World, another 3-D chat program allows its users to assemble a custom
> avatar from a selection of heads, torsos (different shirts), upper leg/thigh
> (pants, skirts) area and feet (shoes, boots, etc.).
>
> The program also features voice chat as well as text and the ability to
> leave voice mail messages.
>
> http://www.talkworld-online.com/
>
> Nobody is ever there though....
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Aug 11, 2001, 3:55pm

It WAS interesting until they started to force people to
allow active contents in the web browser.
That was the point when I uninstalled it.

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