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Virus (General Discussion)
Virus // General Discussion
Jun 29, 2003, 3:16am
I "NEVER" open email attachments either - yet I did and I got infected...
I got curious as to what was in the zip... unzipped it. Saw it was a pif
and thought I'd read the contents. I had planned on opening this in Notepad
(safe enough), but I slipped up and clicked "Open" instead of "Open in
Notepad". One moments laps in concentration and I got infected. It
happens!
~ Justin
[View Quote]"brock" <Brock at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
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> Neither do i, i NEVER get viruses, i NEVER get trojans, because i'm not a
> moron who opens every e-mail attachment he gets, infact i rarely open any
> e-mails or e-mail attachments at all.
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> Brock - 308723 - DE Leader
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Jun 30, 2003, 10:54am
wow dude...you got a lot to learn about PC's ....:(
[View Quote]"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message news:3efde2ec$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> dlp anne wrote:
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> Stop thinking every computer is connected to the internet. This one is
> not, therefore it is virus proof.
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> Besides, you can only get a virus if you're running servers or opening
> files you shouldn't. As far as I'm aware, there's no way to implant a
> virus on a computer that has neither servers running and is not
> accepting attachments from anything. I really see no reason why people
> invest so much money in firewalls, your connection is going to get
> scanned and probed all the time -- so... the only thing it's really
> going to do is stop viruses and trojans from contacting out (if it were
> designed too). The best thing to do to save money and trouble is
> control your clicking.
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> --Bowen--
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Jun 30, 2003, 8:05pm
[View Quote]binarybud wrote:
> wow dude...you got a lot to learn about PC's ....:(
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Wow dude, are you talking about exploits in backdoors that are caused by
a listening server?
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--Bowen--
Jun 30, 2003, 8:28pm
ZoneAlarm is free..hallelujah!
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-Miek Zimmer
*Mike
[View Quote]"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message
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I really see no reason why people
> invest so much money in firewalls, your connection is going to get
> scanned and probed all the time -- so... the only thing it's really
> going to do is stop viruses and trojans from contacting out (if it were
> designed too). The best thing to do to save money and trouble is
> control your clicking.
>
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> --Bowen--
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Jun 30, 2003, 8:51pm
[View Quote]bowen wrote:
> binarybud wrote:
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> Wow dude, are you talking about exploits in backdoors that are caused by a listening server?
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A virus can enter a computer that's not connected to the Internet. Just use an infected disk in a certain way and you can be infected as well.
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-Agent1
Jun 30, 2003, 9:26pm
[View Quote]agent1 wrote:
> bowen wrote:
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> A virus can enter a computer that's not connected to the Internet. Just
> use an infected disk in a certain way and you can be infected as well.
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No CD-drive or diskette drive, no NIC card, no external connection, no
compilers.
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--Bowen--
Jul 1, 2003, 11:09am
God Bowen I love how you always change the rules/specs to better your argument....LOL your a hoot.
But you gotta understand that MOST people can see right through you..:)
[View Quote]"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message news:3f00c743$2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> agent1 wrote:
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> No CD-drive or diskette drive, no NIC card, no external connection, no
> compilers.
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> --Bowen--
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Jul 1, 2003, 4:49pm
Hmm I thought Bowen was just giving an example of how a computer can be
virus proof - not saying he actually owned one - perhaps I missed something.
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
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> God Bowen I love how you always change the rules/specs to better your
argument....LOL your a hoot.
> But you gotta understand that MOST people can see right through you..:)
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> "bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message
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Just
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Jul 1, 2003, 5:03pm
naaa it was all started with this statement from Bowen "As far as I'm aware, there's no way to implant a virus on a computer that has neither servers running and is not accepting attachments from anything. "
I've seen viruii on shrink wrapped factory install CD's. shit happens.
Leo :)
[View Quote]"stecloud" <stecloud at fsmail.net> wrote in message news:3f01d7bf at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hmm I thought Bowen was just giving an example of how a computer can be
> virus proof - not saying he actually owned one - perhaps I missed something.
>
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> "binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
> news:3f018827$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> argument....LOL your a hoot.
> news:3f00c743$2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Just
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Jul 1, 2003, 5:08pm
[View Quote]binarybud wrote:
> naaa it was all started with this statement from Bowen "As far as I'm aware, there's no way to implant a virus on a computer that has neither servers running and is not accepting attachments from anything. "
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> I've seen viruii on shrink wrapped factory install CD's. shit happens.
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You mean you've seen data that's being interpreted as virii? The
restore utility in WindowsME often FUBARed with anti-viral software.
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--Bowen--
Jul 1, 2003, 5:09pm
[View Quote]binarybud wrote:
> God Bowen I love how you always change the rules/specs to better your argument....LOL your a hoot.
> But you gotta understand that MOST people can see right through you..:)
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God BinaryBud, I don't recall ever stating it was a system default
computer with the standard bells and whistles. I don't even remember
mentioning it has Windows either, but I bet you assumed it did.
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--Bowen--
Jul 1, 2003, 6:01pm
No i meant exactly what i said. STOP putting words in everyones mouth that fit your thoughts.
[View Quote]"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message news:3f01dc14$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> binarybud wrote:
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> You mean you've seen data that's being interpreted as virii? The
> restore utility in WindowsME often FUBARed with anti-viral software.
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> --Bowen--
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Jul 1, 2003, 6:02pm
yea with you Bowen you have to ASSume a lot.
[View Quote]"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message news:3f01dc6e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> binarybud wrote:
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> God BinaryBud, I don't recall ever stating it was a system default
> computer with the standard bells and whistles. I don't even remember
> mentioning it has Windows either, but I bet you assumed it did.
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> --Bowen--
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Jul 1, 2003, 6:24pm
[View Quote]binarybud wrote:
> yea with you Bowen you have to ASSume a lot.
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Clever. No one ever asked what the system entailed, they "ASSume" it
was everything a normal PC usually is. I didn't have to say anything,
no one asked for more information.
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--Bowen--
Jul 1, 2003, 6:26pm
[View Quote]binarybud wrote:
> No i meant exactly what i said. STOP putting words in everyones mouth that fit your thoughts.
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Well, in case you didn't notice, you do exactly as I do. You don't
provide the needed, complete information. You don't specify if it was
viral code itself or if it was interpreted as viral code by you (or your
virus scanner).
The _only_ way you know if it was so, is if you wrote it or the
manufacturer admitted it was designed to be viral. Which is it?
There's that "ASSume" problem again.
--Bowen--
[View Quote]> "bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message news:3f01dc14$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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--Bowen--
Jul 1, 2003, 6:33pm
BOWEN get a freaking brain.....The Manufacturer had no idea it was there until they were notified....BY ME and it was a CadKey install CD.....in this one instance....AND I've seen and heard of many other instances....
I'm done dealing with you now....go away.
[View Quote]"bowen" <Bowen at andras.net> wrote in message news:3f01ee72$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> binarybud wrote:
>
> Well, in case you didn't notice, you do exactly as I do. You don't
> provide the needed, complete information. You don't specify if it was
> viral code itself or if it was interpreted as viral code by you (or your
> virus scanner).
>
> The _only_ way you know if it was so, is if you wrote it or the
> manufacturer admitted it was designed to be viral. Which is it?
> There's that "ASSume" problem again.
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> --Bowen--
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Jul 1, 2003, 6:35pm
[View Quote]binarybud wrote:
> BOWEN get a freaking brain.....The Manufacturer had no idea it was
> there until they were notified....BY ME and it was a CadKey install
> CD.....in this one instance....AND I've seen and heard of many other
> instances.... I'm done dealing with you now....go away.
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How do you know it was viral then? Did it propigate itself? Did it
infect others?
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--Bowen--
Jul 1, 2003, 7:33pm
Thats always a pig... but opening in Notepad is always a good idea... of
course even better would be like recover text in MS Word... or personally I
prefer like HEX editors, keyphrase searchers etc.
- Mark
[View Quote]"just in" <anon at no.spam..com> wrote in message
news:3efe7624 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I "NEVER" open email attachments either - yet I did and I got infected...
>
> I got curious as to what was in the zip... unzipped it. Saw it was a pif
> and thought I'd read the contents. I had planned on opening this in
Notepad
> (safe enough), but I slipped up and clicked "Open" instead of "Open in
> Notepad". One moments laps in concentration and I got infected. It
> happens!
>
> ~ Justin
>
>
> "brock" <Brock at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
> news:3efdabee$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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any
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Jul 1, 2003, 7:34pm
Hack into their computer address book?... erm....
- Mark
[View Quote]"dlp anne" <anne at dreamlandpark.com> wrote in message
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> This virus didn't happen to be the W32/Sobig-E was it?
> This is a new version of that virus discovered on Jun 25, 2003
> It has the ability to read your address book, find the computer that the
> address belongs to, hack into there address book to get more emails and
then
> sends itself out to those emails from your email without your knowledge.
> Your computer can be fully turned off and still some how it dose this.
> Cause I have got a warning message from my ISP saying that I sent a copy
of
> that one out to 4 people and I was not even home and my computer was fully
> turned off at the time and date they told me it was sent out.
> address1
> address2
> address3
> address4
> only address1 was in my address book as it's a friend of mine.
> address2, address3, and address4 after calling the owner of address1 found
> out they where in the address book on their computer.
> I never received or sent anything to address2, address3, or address4
> So this virus some how got info from my friends PC and game it to my PC to
> send itself out.
> Right after I got the warning from my ISP I looked into that virus and it
> was never on my computer at all in any way shape or form as there are not
> traces of it ever being on my computer.
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> "john" <john at 3d-reality.com> wrote in message
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