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Mar 27, 2002, 8:33am

Stupid AW!

Ok, the tables part on the left has grown to be really big, filling up about
half my screen. My chat box also got bigger, filling more than half the
screen. This makes for about a 1x3" piece for the AW Video!

How annoying!! I cant get rid of it. Whenever i make the tab box smaller,
the chat gets bigger, and when i change the text box, the tab box gets
bigger. It's so fucked up and it doesn't fix when i reinstall AW!! HELLLPP!
:-(

Mar 27, 2002, 8:44am

nm, it fixed itself, bah!

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:45am

It's definately a really annoying bug, I have that same problem. :))

Nornny

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Mar 27, 2002, 10:37am

Me too. It seems when you try to resize that list tab at the side, on some
rare occasion, it'll do that. It's happened to me about 4 times this week
:).

--Bowen--

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Mar 27, 2002, 12:33pm

I had that when aw client gobbled all memory. Just had to close it and
restart client....




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Mar 27, 2002, 2:32pm

AW is a memory leak, plain and simple. When aw gets a little out of hand
and doesn't have enough video ram to work with, it makes the video window
smaller and the other windows bigger. Its just something your going to have
to live with. Maybe the DX8 improvements in 3.3 will fix it :).

-Joe

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Mar 27, 2002, 7:05pm

if 3.3 ever comes out *GRR*

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Mar 27, 2002, 7:07pm

The beta is coming in April :).

-Joe

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Mar 27, 2002, 7:29pm

I hope it's an open beta. I'm sick of waiting while all you poor saps with
2.5 GHz machines and all the same uber video cards beta test. Jeez, get
some people with crap machines to actually test for the problems/bigs...
less "minor" fixes could be averted like those in 3.2.

Not much of a beta test when all you're doing is giving the beta to the
close buddies of the staff.

--Bowen--

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Mar 27, 2002, 7:29pm

> some people with crap machines to actually test for the problems/bigs...
bugs that is

Mar 27, 2002, 7:54pm

Well, you have it all wrong :). I'm a beta tester and I have a 450MHz with
a 16MB video card. Nothing 'ubahl33t' about my setup, its falling apart.
There are others with crappy computers on the team too, I suppose. Oh, and
I'm not a close 'buddy' of anyone at AWC that could give me beta access.

-Joe

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:21pm

As I look at the list of the posters on the beta team they all seem to be
people closely tied into AW. Agent1, Mauz, you, etc. You may not be close
but you know people.. it still should be an open beta, or they should at
least take in a lot more people. The only reason for this is because of the
price increase. When most people find something major, it's either a minor
bug to them, or they just won't fix it as fast as they would from the betas.
Paying more money for a new version that works like crap isn't a good way to
keep people, you need to get them into the development of the software,
makes for a much better product in the long run.

16 MB is still a fairly decent video card ;). MHz has nothing to do with
AW.. besides the minimum requirement. I could see a 500 MHz machine with
512 MB's of ram (or more) and a 128 mb video card blowing a 2.5 GHz machine
with a 5 mb video card and 128 mb ram out of the hole ;)

--Bowen--

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:33pm

By making it public Roland just couldn't keep up with the bug reports. By
having a small group of testers, there's a smaller amount of reports coming
in at a time. Also the same bug isn't reported a thousand times. It gives
Roland a wide range of systems without having lots of people. I think the
current system works, but that may just be me. But making it public, I think
would be pushing it. They did make it private for a reason, correct?

-Joe

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:36pm

They still need to throw some of the old beta testers out.. it suprises me
that insanity is a beta tester.. Rotate for god sakes. Some of us other
folks would like to try it too. Since I probably won't be here by the time
it's released I'd like to do it even.

Gee if I throw a link on my site can I be one too?!

--Bowen--

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:44pm

Well, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon, sorry. It seems
that most of the people that tested 3.1 tested 3.2. I guess that's going to
drag over to 3.3 too. I don't know, because I'm not Roland :). You never
know what's going to happen ;).

-Joe

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Mar 27, 2002, 8:45pm

Or maybe.. How about an open beta.. disable bug submissions, then only allow
a few people to post to the beta newsgroup. That way roland gets what he
needs, and everyone gets to try out the new browser.

Simply tell everyone not to submit bugs, they'll be ignored.

It's a fairly decent compromise, it's not like anything bad's going to
happen if you let people take part in a beta.

--Bowen--

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Mar 27, 2002, 9:15pm

[View Quote] Imagine Roland's mailbox then :) I don't wish you to be in the same seat!

Andras

Mar 27, 2002, 9:23pm

That's why you give roland a new e-mail address and don't post it, then they
just ignore the new one :)

Either way he's going to get bugged. Firstly by people who want to be in
the betas.. and they'll contiounsly send e-mails. Or a couple of bug
reports from those same people.

It's all part of being in a company and business, you have to deal with lots
of people. :P

--Bowen--
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Mar 27, 2002, 9:23pm

Ugh
> just ignore the new one :)

Old one..

Mar 27, 2002, 10:18pm

You seem to be forgetting that a beta is *not* a finished piece of
programming. There are a lot of risks involved with trying a beta
program, and you should not sign up for one just because you want to get
a sneak peek at the new stuff. The only people who should be using it
are those who are actively searching for bugs and trying their damndest
to break the thing, thereby by making it better when it gets officially
released.

That's why it's a closed beta, because Roland knows the people who are a
part of it are the ones who actually take the time to beta test it
properly, and aren't just in for a free show.

[View Quote] > Or maybe.. How about an open beta.. disable bug submissions, then only allow
> a few people to post to the beta newsgroup. That way roland gets what he
> needs, and everyone gets to try out the new browser.
>
> Simply tell everyone not to submit bugs, they'll be ignored.
>
> It's a fairly decent compromise, it's not like anything bad's going to
> happen if you let people take part in a beta.
>
> --Bowen--
>
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Goober King
And for god sakes, SNIP!!
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Mar 27, 2002, 11:07pm

Umm I know full well that a beta is not a finished piece of programming.
You think I haven't beta tested programs before? Why do people think that
everyone is less knowledgefully about things then they are? I know all the
risks associated with beta testing as well, anyone who has does. You may
not want to do it, but I and quite a few others do.

Open Betas are all full and well, no one has to partake if they don't want
to, thus it's an open beta. It seems more logical to give it to people such
as myself other than the "PR" people of AW because I do things like RWX
development, building, texture mapping, etc etc..

I'm not trying to start an arguement here but it was just a suggestion. I
seem to find a lot of bugs without even looking for them. Now imagine if
people like me actually were part of the beta team. Dur, could it be that
you'd have more of a variety of systems if you allowed everyone? More of a
chance of finding that bug?

Either way, Roland is going to be bombarded with E-mails. Firstly, to join
the beta team. Secondly, bug reports if open beta was allowed. Maybe a few
more in the later, but I'm sure he doesn't really read most of the stuff he
gets.

--Bowen--

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Mar 28, 2002, 1:06am

Well, in case you forgot or weren't around, beta tests used to be open,
but Roland got tired of having to deal with a) people sending in reports
on bugs that had already been reported (and in some cases, fixed), b)
bickering in the beta NGs (mostly Eep) and c) a lot of people just
freeloading, downloading the beta and never contributing. After he
changed it to a closed beta, Roland related to me that he felt he was
getting a *lot* more accomplished because he didn't have to wade through
all the BS.

I'm sure if you were put on the beta team, you would do an excellent
job. But the same simply cannot be said about the rest of AW, as past
experience has proven. It's been shown that the closed beta system works
best, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it! I don't know how Roland plans
to pick the beta testers this time around, since he used to do it based
on who showed up to Tech Talk. But since he's not doing TT anymore, it's
anyone's guess how he hopes to pick the right people. We'll just have to
see, I guess (supposedly, if you actually ask Roland to be on the beta
team, that immediately excludes you from being on said team).

Keep your eyes and ears open!

[View Quote] > Umm I know full well that a beta is not a finished piece of programming.
> You think I haven't beta tested programs before? Why do people think that
> everyone is less knowledgefully about things then they are? I know all the
> risks associated with beta testing as well, anyone who has does. You may
> not want to do it, but I and quite a few others do.
>
> Open Betas are all full and well, no one has to partake if they don't want
> to, thus it's an open beta. It seems more logical to give it to people such
> as myself other than the "PR" people of AW because I do things like RWX
> development, building, texture mapping, etc etc..
>
> I'm not trying to start an arguement here but it was just a suggestion. I
> seem to find a lot of bugs without even looking for them. Now imagine if
> people like me actually were part of the beta team. Dur, could it be that
> you'd have more of a variety of systems if you allowed everyone? More of a
> chance of finding that bug?
>
> Either way, Roland is going to be bombarded with E-mails. Firstly, to join
> the beta team. Secondly, bug reports if open beta was allowed. Maybe a few
> more in the later, but I'm sure he doesn't really read most of the stuff he
> gets.
>
> --Bowen--
>
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Goober King
Does anyone actually read these things?
rar1 at acsu.buffalo.edu

Mar 28, 2002, 1:28am

LoL I was thinking about asking him too.. just worth a shot. Maybe a well
written letter with nothing offensive? :)

Still wouldn't an open beta be good while only allowing a few people to post
to the beta newsgroup? It'd be the best of both worlds.

But oh well, guess it sucks.

--Bowen--

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Mar 28, 2002, 6:19am

[View Quote] Derrrr I resent that remark! ;) Tied into AW yes, but if you mean AWC,
I don't see how I am close to them, except for being a Gatekeeper,
in which capacity I had Mountain Myst as my team leader eons ago.

I think I got the beta because I always showed up at TechTalk
- which was because I wanted to log them - and wasn't usually bothering Roland
- which was because it was after midnight for me so I was half asleep.
I never asked to be a closed beta tester so it was a nice surprise.

Well, nice to hear that they are planning go beta soon.

--
Mauz
http://mauz.info

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