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Apr 3, 2005, 8:03pm

I wish for a Linux Version of AW that uses KDE or Gnome as the graphics
engine, I wish to even get the source code to create a AW for Linux.

I have not been able to get on AW for this reason. Windows XP Pro
crashed so many times I got fed up with it, Got Slackware 10.1 and to
date, If I leave it alone, It never crashes. Has had 5 or 6 things opne
and it just trots along, open 2 things or even 3 in XP and the whole
system reboots.

I want my CiT Back and I want AW for Linux.

Apr 3, 2005, 8:13pm

The AW browser is bolted on to Windows by too many critical things:

* Renderware (is there an RW for Linux now?)
* Windows Media Player (for the 'media' command)
* Internet Explorer (for the in-browser web panel)
* Faircom CTree database (what about this one?)

It seems to me that a complete rewrite of AW's browser is necessary to make a Linux version possible. IMO, this is not something AWI has the manpower to do.

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Apr 3, 2005, 8:32pm

Ok... better idea, learn to use Windows XP, fix your hardware because thats
practically the only thing that can cause windows XP to die : Hardware and
kernel mode drivers.

You... just... aint gonna get the source code for AW... ever... short of a
mircle (for you, id be freaked if the source was handed out).

- MR

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Apr 3, 2005, 11:05pm

[View Quote] Or if you just want the chat, try WINE

Apr 3, 2005, 11:27pm

I have not had thgat problem with WinXP. Possibly ther is hardware
incompatibilities with your computer, of your copy of Windows may have
problems itself. I suggest contacting Microsoft or you computer dealer
to find any information on that.
Bean!

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Apr 4, 2005, 2:39am

[View Quote] I have tried Wine, I do need to get the source so it will work with KDE.
They usually use GNU from GNome for some reason. I had XP up and running
fine, even withall the programs I had, but AW and Eyeball chat kept
crashing it at everyturn. Rebooting at odd times, and the like.
Slackware I can have this open, Gxene and several other things and not
lose a heartbeat. Linux runs fine here. Maybe if I could reverse enginer
it. Lol not. as for the otehr ppst of what it uses.


The AW browser is bolted on to Windows by too many critical things:

* Renderware (is there an RW for Linux now?)
* Windows Media Player (for the 'media' command)
* Internet Explorer (for the in-browser web panel)
* Faircom CTree database (what about this one?)

It seems to me that a complete rewrite of AW's browser is necessary to
make a Linux version possible. IMO, this is not something AWI has the
manpower to do.


As for these, Renderware Xaw3d is the equivlent 3d graphics from X11
Media Player can be superceeded with Gxene
IE is just a crutch for the aw browser, they could hook into KDE and
Knoqueror.
CTree I don't know exactly what it is. If it is a C++ code then GCC++
for Linux can superced that. It would be source only and they can just
write in the redo for the no more dll's and vxd's. More Modules for
sound using alsa = Advanced Linux sound Archetecture
aRts in KDE is the sserver side of the audio too.

If they do this then the OSF will applaud them for being open. If they
stickwith a closed system, and all, then who knows.

Windows is not a program, it's a virus
Once you get it, you can get rid of it.

Solution = Linux Anti Virius.

Apr 4, 2005, 4:15am

[View Quote] Installed Wine and AW refuses to run at all.

Apr 4, 2005, 1:56pm

And then of course.. It wouldent work on anything else. Bye Bye 99% customer
base.

- MR

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- Mark Randall
http://zetech.swehli.com
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Apr 4, 2005, 4:09pm

It bloody well does run though! you have to force it to use software
rendering mode in the INI first though!
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Apr 4, 2005, 4:46pm

You have to set video=2 or what ever in the ini you have to disable media
url's and also you need to grab a few dll's from ur system32 directory and
stick them in wines virutal system32 directory.

Apr 4, 2005, 6:09pm

I have to agree with some here. You can't expect them to re-write and intire
programa that has grown up with windows for just a few people. Espcially
when most of the base here are windows users as someone reported above. Here
is what I would do>>>>GO TO STORE AND BUY A CHEAP PC TO USE WITH AW. Don't
say you can't afored it either becuase you already bought another OP and you
would not even be online if you could not afored it. Go buy another PC and
end your suffering over it. LOL. I would....However I do have to agree with
her/him that XP is noting but hassles hassles hassles. It is definetly shaky
and it does love to shut down without notice and it does get weak in the
knees if you don't restart it constantly...without question they do have a
point on that one those Linux users. Mine does it and so do many of my
friends. People know that XP has some weaknesses to it. It's widly known
FACT.

Apr 4, 2005, 6:35pm

Or you could just spend 5 minutes by turning off automatic restart find the
error which is probably an offending driver update it there you works fine
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Apr 4, 2005, 9:21pm

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Apr 4, 2005, 9:49pm

Sounds like a lot of bull. AW has been developing since 1995 in its
native home operating system,Windows. To all of a sudden try and create
a linux version of it will take very long and a hell lot of resources.
Its too late now, so stop asking.
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Apr 4, 2005, 10:21pm

Personally Id not let you within 100 miles of the AW source code, and AW is
NEVER going to be OSS, personally the only external person id trust to do
something like this is Andras.

By the way, have you actually done a cost / benefit analasys, the
development time vs the payoff... I am pretty certain it would be in the
negative figures. Linux users form a tiny majority of internet users, what
next, demand a command line interface for building?

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- Mark Randall
http://zetech.swehli.com

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Apr 5, 2005, 2:16am

See Strike a command line building interface is easily done with the SDK so
he could have it if he sat on his ass and coded it. An AW Client on the
other hand well all the best luck to him I doubt it will be completed before
AW bankrupt them selfs trying that project.

And even people with linux do actually have a windows machine as well so its
not exactly like thew demand a linux version to something.

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Apr 5, 2005, 3:27am

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Apr 5, 2005, 3:46am

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8we.html

That do ya?


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Apr 5, 2005, 3:48am

But now i think of it you might need this:

http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk8qspro.html

Or alternatively you could just trim down windows, I dont see what your
major problems is I ran the current build on my previous machine which was
Athlon XP 2400+ 768MB RAM Windows XP Pro XP2

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Apr 5, 2005, 5:36am

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Apr 5, 2005, 5:40am

[View Quote] I had XP Pro SP2 and some things marked SP3, yet it crashed about every
two weeks, and reintalling it because the sp's messed it up was not
worth it. So my quest to find an os thta does not crash unless I make it
crash, thus Linux Slackware to be excact. If I leave the kernel alone it
runs and runs and runs and runs. I opne 4 even 5 things and it just
purrs on. Open 2 things in WXP Pro and it rebooted. So my decision was
based on crash vs useability.

Apr 5, 2005, 7:39am

Why would you want onboard video that things got bloody 16x PCI Express dual
opterons would be accelent to drive it with Hyper Transport!

Hell my athlon 64 fx socket 939 which is basicly a single opteron drives an
AGP 8x graphics card to its limit! If i had money i would probably buy that
exact board and a pair of Geforce 6800's and use SLI!

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Apr 5, 2005, 10:48am

[View Quote] > [...] OSF will be asked to look into this now. [...]

The OSF has absolutely no authority over a private company's actions. It is completely absurd for you to even think that they do, and only continues to prove the notion that you're just a Linux zealot trying to push your own agenda.

'R i c h a r d' has already told you it is possible to use AW under WINE. If you won't do this, then there's no alternative for you. If you REALLY want to run AW, get your hardware in check and figure out what went wrong under Windows XP -- that really is the *only* problem you've had with Windows XP.

I'm personally getting sick of your Linux-pushing agenda, and I'm sure many others are too. You need to lighten up on it, or else you're only going to increase the resistance to your idea.

Apr 5, 2005, 4:27pm

[View Quote] If I had even something close to that, my nVidia GeForce 2 MX 400 would
be so happy to run at it's full 4X ability, not limited by the boards 2X
Slot.

Apr 5, 2005, 4:29pm

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Apr 9, 2005, 9:43pm

Hi ppl ;D

That is so funny, here to ride that ppl want AW run under Linux. Linux
is a another BS as Windows XP. The Browser must new write, but that is
not the problem. The problem is the ppl, the will not known linux.

I think it give more alternative to AW, but not for me ;D I like AW
better I like DLP. AW run under Wine or CrossOffice ;D

That was my 2 Cent ;D

Greetings

Bogus

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Apr 10, 2005, 3:17am

[View Quote] Linux is not BS. It's the leading (sorry, *nix!) base that runs the
world's computer servers.. It runs routers, and etc. It's not BS. And I
don't mind the idea of AW on Linux, but it already had too many
resources that aren't converted to Linux.

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