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Mar 16, 2003, 6:14am

AW 3.4 should have mirrors, so we should make it posible by using textures,
sort of like this:

a pp30.rwx is in a room with "create texture reflect, mirror" the texture
would be animated but wait for it to be triggered so at close range a
LOW-POLY, like fogged figure appears on the texture close up and moves with
you the create mirror command would make its texture search for diffrent
animations of it as you move forwards, backwards.. or left to right and up
and down (for jumping) this could reduce lag by making whatever textures you
want.

Mar 16, 2003, 2:34pm

Why not just place another camera behind the mirror and place the image on
the object? Whatever, stop giving them ideas for 3.4, its already getting
too complicated.

-Joe

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Mar 16, 2003, 4:30pm

Include: Sign! the Letter Backward and Fordward
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Mar 16, 2003, 5:04pm

Know what'd be easy?

Just have a hole in the wall where the mirror is, with a room exactly the
same but opposite on the other side. Simple!

Lol

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Mar 16, 2003, 5:33pm

very good idea, are you going to tell me how to make the User Reflect? we
tried that before..
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Mar 16, 2003, 9:58pm

Actually, making a sign object with backward text is easy... and doesn't require any modifications to AW at all.

As for adding mirrors, that's a different story. I would be "extremely" surprised if that were to end up in 3.4 and probably somewhat surprised if it even ends up in any pre-4.0 version.

TechnoZeus

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Mar 16, 2003, 10:11pm

[View Quote] 00 01 11 10 becomes 10 11 01 00, I think. Only RWX modelers will know what I mean.

--Bowen--

Mar 17, 2003, 4:24am

Yep.. you left out the spaces (ie.e 0 0, 0 1, 1 1, 1 0) but yes I know what you mean... and that's exactly how you would do it for a mirror image sign or picture object, or to reverse a texture's left-right orientation.

There is now one other way in a simple case like that of only showing a single copy of the image, but it will not work in AW 3.3, because of an old bug. In AW 3.4 beta build 467 that bug apears to no longer exists, so you could instead seth the TextureAddressMode to mirror, and change UV values of 0 0, 0 1, 1 1, 1 0 to values of 1 0, 1 1, 2 1, 2 0, which would flip it left to right, or 0 1, 0 2, 1 2, 1 1 which would flip it top to bottom, or even 1 1, 1 2, 2 2, 2 1 which would flip it both ways, essentially rotating the image 180 degrees.

For those who have no idea what all this means, here is an example segment of RWX script:

ModelBegin
ClumpBegin
#! TextureAddressMode Mirror
Vertex .05 .1 0 UV 1 0
Vertex -.05 .1 0 UV 0 0
Vertex -.05 0 0 UV 0 1
Vertex .05 0 0 UV 1 1
Vertex .05 .1 0 UV 1 2
Vertex -.05 .1 0 UV 0 2
Texture flame1 mask flame1m
Quad 1 2 3 4
Quad 6 5 4 3
#! TextureAddressMode Wrap
ClumpEnd
ModelEnd

Note that an identical looking object could have been made with only 4 vertices, but I made this one with 6 to demonstrate the effects of the "TextureAddressMode Mirror" command. With that line in it, this object will have a left-right mirror image on it's front side of what's on it's back. Remove that one line, and both sides will apear identical to each other. Unfortunately, if you want to test this in build 467, first off you need to be on the beta test team, and second off, you will have to clear your cache before the removal of that command will have any effect at all, or replace the command with "TextureAddressMode Wrap" and save it with a different name (which has not been cached) which will effect not only the new object, but all objects with th same texture.


TechnoZeus

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Mar 17, 2003, 4:37am

Mirror bot ;)

- Mark

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Mar 17, 2003, 4:40am

A futher note to anyone wishing to test this: I just noticed that the "TextureAddressMode Mirror" command is ignored completely on my system in OpenGL mode and in Software Render mode, in build 467, as well as in Direct3D mode with hardware T&L support switched off (even though my graphics card doesn't have any hardware T&L support) so perhaps it will work on some systems in AW 3.3 depending on what graphics mode they're in at the time. I doubt it, but it might. :)

TechnoZeus

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Mar 17, 2003, 4:50am

I'll accept that answer, as soon as the AW browser comes with a built in programming language and compiler for writing bots. :)

TZ

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Mar 30, 2003, 8:03pm

nah a Mirror bot normally would be much better, you could make it jump out
the mirror and bite the persons head off!!

- Mark

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Mar 31, 2003, 3:39am

yeah.. except bots cant go upside down without making custom seqs or avatars

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Mar 31, 2003, 8:12pm

What about 3.4?

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