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Dec 4, 2001, 6:26am

Make it so we all se the 100% same VRT time.
I have noticed that the VRT time is not controlled by the browser or AW.
well 1% is the browser but the other 99% it controlled by the users
computer.
what ever your time it set at effects the VRT.
to see this open AW liek you normaly would.
now click on your clock on the right side of the tool bar.
now edit your computers time and at the same time watch the VRT.
would be nice if this was fixed.
maby have the browser actuly look up the VRT from a real 100% relyable
source and use that to set itself.
because the way it is now know one is seeing the same VRT time, if you do a
survey and check you will find that somewhere around 100% of the users will
see there VRT off set a few min. from each other.
I bet i just confused all of you LOL
well anyway this needs fixed

Dec 4, 2001, 4:57pm

VRT clock adjusts at logon, so it's your problem if you're system clock is
going wrong...

KAH

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Dec 4, 2001, 6:13pm

next time learn how it actually _works_ before you complain about it. First
of all. The server sends the current time on login and the browser adjusts
it according to your system clock. The server cannot send the time every
second that is too much badnwidth.

Soo....don't chnage your system clock while it's running. It is irelevent to
chnage your clock while it's running becuase for one....no one would do that
under normal circumstances and the VRT clock keeps running from your system
clock so when you chnages it goes byt he change. If it does get changed then
restart and youll get the right time.

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Dec 5, 2001, 6:11am

didn't I say I would confuse people LOL look i was right :-)
your not seeing my point so let me try again.
I do not mess with my time, I just said that to make it clear to you all
that its controled by your computers time and not AW.
ask anyone what the VRT time is and you will get many many diff responces,
peoples VRT being a few min faster or slower then yours.
heres an Ex.
just say we all live in the USA and are one the east side we all go by est.
now im not saying we all do, this is just an Ex. but if we did.
for all of us to have the same VRT we all would have to some how sync all of
your conputers times together so we all see the same VRT.
Then all the other times zones would have to set there computers clocks
acording to the est.
Ex.
cst looks at the est and sets there time just like it but 2 hours behind.
wst. looks at est and sets there time just like it but 4 hours behind.
and so on all around teh world.
that would make all users have the same VRT.

Now AW could make the browser look for a true sorce for the real VRT that
way no mater what our computers clock is set at fast or slow it would still
show the 100% correct VRT.

This is as simple as I can make it.











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Dec 5, 2001, 5:44pm

it gets the true time from the server on start up....it doesn not chnage due
to tiem zones...you do NOT know how it works...the only way it uses the
system clock is to know exactly when one second has passed and to add a
second the the time.

Every does have the same VRT time as long as they don't mess with their
clock after log-in.

No just drop this issue please becuase there is no way they are goign to
make it conact the sever constantly to update a simple workign clock.

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Dec 5, 2001, 6:28pm

yes i do know how it works!
umm and we all dont see the (((100%))) same VRT
Even when it checks the server, it still is set be offsetting itself with
the users computer to give you VRT.
Ask around you will get some diff responces some being a few min or sec
faster or slower then yours.
I was at AWgate a few days ago and a tourest asked what time it was and a
few started talling that persion what the VRT time was, not all of them gave
the same time. some did some did not.
its just a miner bug i know, but still they should fix it.
the point is when it checkes your PC's time it dose not auto fix the VRT to
show the right time.
And VRT is a needed thing and has to be 100% set right
Not sure about you, but others do use the VRT as the main time wile in AW to
meat up with friends.

something to think about, what if your real life clock was a bit slow and
your bosses clock was correct, you would be late that day!
Same thing in AW, if we all don't see the (((100%))) same VRT many will be
late or early for some event that you had to yse the VRT and not real life
time...




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Dec 5, 2001, 7:59pm

here do this go to that web page Tyrell posted then compair that with
your VRT, you will see that the min are off a bit. that is the same thing in
AW that is what i am talking about.
its the min. that are messed up. we all see the same hour yes, buit we do
not all see the same min.
thats due to the reasion of where its getting the sec's from.
it should get the full time from 1 source and this problem would be fixed.


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Dec 5, 2001, 10:30pm

i think that the VRT should go off of one specific computer at aw
serverland...


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Dec 6, 2001, 6:10am

I agree :-)


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Dec 6, 2001, 6:05pm

aaaaaaaaaaah, haven't you got it yet? with 500 users connected, sending the
VRT time every second would exhaust bandwidth and server capacities! if
setting it at logon isn't enough for you, why don't you just use a plain,
analog clock and go after GMT time instead???? or just continue to be silly
and not listen to ppl that are telling you how it works and why it wouldn't
work to receive it every second!! just get a quality CMOS/BIOS clock anyway
and you'll be fine...

KAH

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Dec 7, 2001, 6:44am

Well if it can't be fixed then I gess evryone will have a diff VRT time to
look at :-(
the hour is right for all, its the minets that are always fast or slow for
alot of users.

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Dec 7, 2001, 1:41pm

KAH is quite correct, it's not upto AW to send out timesignals at crippling
intervals, far easier to send it once and have the client pc work from that.

Now if people do not have their pc's clock set to a suitably accurate
standard,
there are plenty of free progs that will do so, see tucows for instance,
then that
is not AW's responsibility. Also i'm sure that most people dont mind waiting
say 5 mins if you've agreed a VRT time to meet up at.

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Dec 7, 2001, 6:21pm

AW forget about this fix lol
cool little program :-)
Have all use that program once a month, that will make the VRT in perfict
sync with all users.



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Dec 7, 2001, 10:31pm

methinks he's seen the light at last
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Dec 9, 2001, 3:58pm

Actually no, my VRT clock normally differs from my computer's clock, because
normally when my comp is 4 minutes behind the VRT clock is where it should
be. The only reason we don't see the 100% same VRT is that lag and your ISP
speed can affect how long it takes for the server to send you the time. That
and like most computers...some people have computers that are just plain
screwed up.
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Dec 9, 2001, 4:00pm

Minutes are faster and slowed from your BIOS clock, some are crappy and a
second is a little faster than a second should be so that throws off the VRT
time. I'm gonna write to MSI and ask them to include a quartz timing
mechanism on their KT266 Pro2 mobo...that way I can get athlon power and a
reliable clock at the same time ^_^


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Captain MAD Mike
-Governor, PC Addict, Odd Man
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Dec 9, 2001, 4:31pm

Uh??? a BIOS clock is extremely precise, do you think your multi-hunderd-Mhz computer runs between 100Hz and 2GHz depending on its
mood? every mobo already has its precise clock crystal !

Fox Mc Cloud

"captain mad mike" <cmm at swcity.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3c13a6cd$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Minutes are faster and slowed from your BIOS clock, some are crappy and a
> second is a little faster than a second should be so that throws off the VRT
> time. I'm gonna write to MSI and ask them to include a quartz timing
> mechanism on their KT266 Pro2 mobo...that way I can get athlon power and a
> reliable clock at the same time ^_^

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