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New ejection... (Wishlist)

New ejection... // Wishlist

wing

Feb 17, 2001, 10:39pm

Take ICQ for example. I send a message to you and then run netstat from DOS
prompt (included with Windows 95 and higher), and your DNS is in there.
Resolve that to an IP and b00m, you have an IP address.

--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
She paints her nails, and she dont know, he's got her best friend on the
phone,
She'll wash her hair, his dirty clothes, for all he gives to her. And he's
got posters on the wall
Of all the girls he wish she was, and he means everything to her. Her
boyfriend, he dont know,
Anything, about her... She's just the flavor of the week.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
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j b e l l <jbell1983 at home.com> wrote in message
news:3a86224a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> IP addresses pretty much are like membership cards... when you first go to
a
> site or a program or whatnot, they get your ip for the first time, like
when
> you first register a membership card, they can track and personalize
> settings based on your ip or membership card.. it's your identification to
> other computers and systems, if your IP was well protected, a lot of very
> popular website features would not be around.. it's amazingly simple to
get
> an IP address.. AW doesn't make it easier.. in fact, not every aw user can
> get your ip addy from aw.. which is more then you can say about a lot of
> other programs..
>
> --
> J B E L L
> http://platinum.awjbell.com
> G O I N G P L A T I N U M
> "lanezeri" <Lanezeri at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3a860901 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> : > IP adresses will never be secret. It's too easy to get >them.
> :
> : true.. but AW makes it even easier!
> :
> : > anyone capable of hacking a computer can obtain IP >adresses. With or
> : without
> : > AW browser.
> :
> : yes.. your point is? That is a whole new topic
> :
> : > Physically disconnecting the computer is the only >100% safe way.
> :
> : Physically unplugging the phone line to the computer is the only 100%
safe
> : way.. its a thing called phreaking..
> :
> : > I found nothing about second degree attacks in the docs
> : > (http://www.networkice.com/docs/BlackICE_Def_UG_21.pdf), but there was
> : > something about severity. The severity merely indicates ?
> : > how severe the
> : > program thinks the "attack" is. It is not saying it is > almost beat.
> :
> : And if you pay attention I said "something in that vacinity" meaning
> : something around what I said.. that is close enough.. it is pretty much
> : saying it almost got beat by how big the attack was.. I pinged myself
> using
> : BlackICE and if gave me a minor error.. I did a whois on me and it gave
a
> : medium.. isn't that something? whois and ping is almost the same
thing..
> :
> : > Hacking a computer is not a matter of going in with > some force
and
> : kicking
> : > things until they break and you can get through.
> :
> : Did I say it was?
> :
> : > Don't draw conclusions on things you don't know about.
> :
> : Uhh.. I knew what I was talking about..
> :
> : > -there is a difference between incoming and outgoing traffic
> : > -FTP uses more than only port 21
> :
> : yes.. but that is the port most every program goes to FIRST
> :
> : > -any decent firewall can block any existing port
> : > -you can only be hacked on a port if something on > your computer
is
> : listening
> : > there.
> :
> : yea... your getting to what?
> :
> : > "the port"? You mean "the ports"? Anyway, there are > many firewalls
> that
> : can
> : > block every port you want.
> :
> : Minor mistake sue me.. and who has the time to waste setting up a
> firewall..
> : unless you have important things to hide why you need a firewall anyway?
> :
> : > Usually it means they didn't look. If it's an issue with > their
> : firewall
> : > software, they don't know how to configure it.
> :
> : Listen to yourself.. you state two different things in one sentence..
and
> : they have nothing in common
> :
> : > What if you have an annoying tourist around? Ban all tourists?
> :
> : Read the posts before and u'd know we came up with that Idea..
> :
> : > Sure you can. Become a tourist.
> :
> : again.. drop the old issues..
> :
> :
> : > Again, what about tourists?
> :
> : do I need say anymore..
> :
> : > Hiding IP's and using cit#'s? Nooo... that would be > worse than
what
> : we have
> : > now.
> :
> : Worse? How is that? why not block half of the IP out when trying to
eject
> : someone? Also.. has no one tried to think of the BOTS.. a preston can
tell
> : you someone's IP then tell you who runs that IP.. ejecting people isn't
> the
> : only problem..
> :
> : > Prolly. Not everybody is well informed.
> :
> : Exactly.. you state things over and over that were already covered.. and
> : things that make no sence..
> :
> :
>
>

wing

Feb 18, 2001, 6:45pm

*gasp* someone's hacking me through my power supply!

--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
She paints her nails, and she dont know, he's got her best friend on the
phone,
She'll wash her hair, his dirty clothes, for all he gives to her. And he's
got posters on the wall
Of all the girls he wish she was, and he means everything to her. Her
boyfriend, he dont know,
Anything, about her... She's just the flavor of the week.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
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ananas

Feb 18, 2001, 7:35pm

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You can try to use a gyrator circuit with a 100 microfarad capacity (no
electrolyt) parallel to it and a zero ohm resistor parallel too. Put
that between the two pins of your DC plug. Make sure you use a fat
resistor (at least 100W).

If you have any trouble getting the gyrator circuit and/or the capacity
you can try to use only the 0 Ohm resistor.

I'm quite sure that will help.

wing schrieb:
>
> *gasp* someone's hacking me through my power supply!
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ananas

Feb 18, 2001, 7:54pm

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sorry - there was a typo in it - it's the AC plug I mean off course

ananas schrieb:
>
> You can try to use a gyrator circuit with a 100 microfarad capacity (no
> electrolyt) parallel to it and a zero ohm resistor parallel too. Put
> that between the two pins of your DC plug. Make sure you use a fat
> resistor (at least 100W).
>
> If you have any trouble getting the gyrator circuit and/or the capacity
> you can try to use only the 0 Ohm resistor.
>
> I'm quite sure that will help.
>
> wing schrieb:
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lanezeri

Feb 18, 2001, 8:11pm

See.. you guys are idiots.. I couldn't give a rats ass if someone tried to
hack me cause you all dont know how to.. just shut up already.. if ur saying
I'm afraid.. then hack me.. I want you to try.. just don't bitch when you
get the consequences..

j b e l l

Feb 18, 2001, 8:39pm

...that was random...

--

J B E L L
http://platinum.awjbell.com
G O I N G P L A T I N U M

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wing

Feb 18, 2001, 8:40pm

--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
Take a look to the sky just before you die --Mettalica
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
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wing

Feb 18, 2001, 8:41pm

OOPS. That was stupid. Anyway, as I was TRYING to say...

What the hell?

--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
Take a look to the sky just before you die --Mettalica
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
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andras

Feb 18, 2001, 8:59pm

hmmm - nice sparks :)
Andras

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agent1

Feb 18, 2001, 9:55pm

LOL :)

-Agent1
(PS - Sorry for the lack of content in my post)

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ananas

Feb 18, 2001, 10:58pm

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HA - caught you !

You did NOT try else it would have been : hmmm - nice sparks :(

andras schrieb:
>
> hmmm - nice sparks :)
> Andras
>
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wing

Feb 19, 2001, 2:55am

Heh, I'm a nut. I just lit up a 150 watt AT PS all over my work counter.
First time I've ever used the fire extinguisher in tool kit though. Blew the
breaker for that particular outlet too. Impressive fireworks show :)

--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
She paints her nails, and she dont know, he's got her best friend on the
phone,
She'll wash her hair, his dirty clothes, for all he gives to her. And he's
got posters on the wall
Of all the girls he wish she was, and he means everything to her. Her
boyfriend, he dont know,
Anything, about her... She's just the flavor of the week.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
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andras

Feb 19, 2001, 4:55pm

I was just wondering why do you need the capacitor parallel with 0 Ohm :)
Andras

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andras

Feb 19, 2001, 4:56pm

Similar excercise did cost me 58 Gig data completely lost - the PS killed 3 harddrives too :(
Andras

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ananas

Feb 19, 2001, 6:32pm

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If the 0 Ohm burns through without a nice spark there is still a chance
that the capapacitor gives you at least a nice BANG. Off course a really
big electrolyt capacitor can do that better but it can set free gas that
isn't too good to have in your rooms.

andras schrieb:
>
> I was just wondering why do you need the capacitor parallel with 0 Ohm :)
> Andras
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ananas

Feb 19, 2001, 6:44pm

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hm - that can only happen if you apply the little circuit to the wrong
side of the power supply, you should have applied it just to your AC
plug outside of your computer. I forgot to write that - stupid me :(

If you are in US there should be a solution - get a lawyer to write to
the manufacturer of the power supply. You sure can get lots of money as
they didn't have a sign on that power supply :

never add a gyrator, a capacitor and a 0 ohm inside of the PC case,
always apply it to the other end of the power chord

Don't forget to mention the shock that you had when it happened and you
will be rich in short.

andras schrieb:
>
> Similar excercise did cost me 58 Gig data completely lost - the PS killed 3 harddrives too :(
> Andras
>
[View Quote] p.s.: for all who don't know - Andras really lost the data so his part
isn't a joke
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wing

Feb 19, 2001, 11:14pm

ahh, damn. If only this company were still in buisinessssssssssssss

--
Wing
This little spot is dedicated to my girl, Jessie.
AW Citizen 305004 "Wing"
bathgate at prodigy.net
eyemwing at teleport.com
ICQ #101207433
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nova n@n.com

Feb 27, 2001, 1:57pm

you can easly get a ip addy through aw icq aol im etc useing netstat from a
dos prompt doesnt matter what progy your useing if it conects to the
internet and alows you to send a message to some one else they can get your
ip addy
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xero

Feb 27, 2001, 7:05pm

Uh, only if you direct connect with someone can you get an IP, like a file
transfer in AW, or direct connect in aim, now in ICQ anyone on your contacts
list all their ips can be shown with many little ICQ hacks..Thats another
reason why I no longer use ICQ. Otherwise, AIM and AW are pretty IP safe
aslong as you dont allow file transfer and direct connects and only go in
worlds with owners you trust.

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wing

Feb 27, 2001, 8:07pm

I wouldn't be so sure about AIM. I frequently use it for maintnence purposes
on my friend's computers (Dumbass AOLians can't fix their own problems or
their comp is an eMachine running 10 year old hardware with a Geforce II MX
PCI stuck in a PCI slot and trying to run Windows 2000 on 16 megs of RAM and
whatnot)
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ananas

Feb 27, 2001, 8:40pm

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you're very wrong :

Everyone who has a web site and can use server-sided scripting (pearl,
php3/4, cgi) can get your IP. It is not required that you host the
domain on your own server. And it doesn't require active contents
enabled in your browser.

It's would be easy to make php3 send me an email, containing the IP that
a visitor of a specific web page uses - or updating a status page with
all visitors. You would not see that in the page source.

Java, VBScript and even JavaScript has much more potential to do damage
to your PC than the pure knowledge of your IP has.
Hacker-kids (those who use ready-to-use tools to do damage) scan
well-known ISP IP ranges to find people. They often can be backtraced
easily. Their providers have log files (they keep them for few weeks) so
that you can find out who this "hacker" was, go to the police and stop
their doing. Defending those ready-to-use damaging tools doesn't require
much, most even just try to find computers that respond on NetBus or
BO/BO2k ports. All good virus scanner find those trojans.

Hackers will sure not try to do damage to your personal computer -
except you have a personal enemy amongst them.

xero schrieb:
>
> Uh, only if you direct connect with someone can you get an IP, like a file
> transfer in AW, or direct connect in aim, now in ICQ anyone on your contacts
> list all their ips can be shown with many little ICQ hacks..Thats another
> reason why I no longer use ICQ. Otherwise, AIM and AW are pretty IP safe
> aslong as you dont allow file transfer and direct connects and only go in
> worlds with owners you trust.
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xero

Feb 27, 2001, 10:10pm

I didn't mention websites, I know you can get an IP from a website, lol, php
and all thats simple, I didn't mention that so how is it wrong? lol AIM
maybe you can get an IP from atleast wing says..but I have never been able
to get an IP unless it was direct connected..then its very simple to use
netstat, other wise all messages are through the server..and I am pretty
sure about that.
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ananas

Feb 27, 2001, 10:49pm

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A web site owner with scripting can get your IP without beeing connected
to you.
Many AW world owners are web site owners, either for their web window or
for the object path.
Even a tourist can get your IP ("bump url" or "create picture" while
you're there), he just needs a web site with scripting enabled. No
direct connect needed.
Trying to hide your IP can work, but not with a direct internet connect.

xero schrieb:
>
> I didn't mention websites, I know you can get an IP from a website, lol, php
> and all thats simple, I didn't mention that so how is it wrong? lol AIM
> maybe you can get an IP from atleast wing says..but I have never been able
> to get an IP unless it was direct connected..then its very simple to use
> netstat, other wise all messages are through the server..and I am pretty
> sure about that.
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