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I Wish I May, I Wish I Might... // Wishlist=?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 6, 1998, 6:24am
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ....wish that AW would return to REAL development and forget this lame SDK crap that 95% of the AW population won't be able to use... --------------0E2BAE29F5F91573653A7146 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> ....wish that AW would return to REAL development and forget this lame SDK crap that 95% of the AW population won't be able to use...</HTML> --------------0E2BAE29F5F91573653A7146-- cdmOct 6, 1998, 7:46am
I have said it before, and I will say it again: money talks. Why do you
think they are investing so much time in it? They are probably hoping to attract world owners. But, they aren't just trying to attract any old world owner. They want the commercial world owners who are willing and able to shell out what COF is asking for the servers. You don't think Roland is doing this for a hobby do you? But, even if I do see the motives behind it, I still agree with you, Eep. If they spent more on advertising, developing attractive new features, etc, etc. they wouldn't have to be busting their butts to come out with the spiffy all purpose SDK which will only really be beneficial to programmers and >commercial< world owners who can afford to hire the programmers (or world owners who have programmer friends). I don't blame Roland, either, he doesn't call the shots (which is another thing that I mourn, COF is no longer a team, but a business) On the other hand, since the source code will not be kept secret, maybe some bright talented programmer (hint, hint Magine) might make a GUI interface that will carefuly conceal all the confusing techno-babble under the disguise of a simple program that anybody can use with a little help Eep² <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article <3619D3B8.13D8179C at tnlc.com>... > ...wish that AW would return to REAL development and forget this lame SDK crap that 95% of the AW population won't be able to use... > thecheeseOct 6, 1998, 8:22am
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------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BDF0F1.B72FF540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable shuddap eep. i have enuf with yer attitude towards cof and everything = else. cheese --=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Check out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome graphics! http://thecheese.home.ml.org Maybe check out my town in AW! AW- 10000N 500W -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BDF0F1.B72FF540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>shuddap eep. i have enuf with yer = attitude=20 towards cof and everything else.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>cheese</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><BR>--=20 <BR></FONT>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-<BR>Check=20 out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome=20 graphics!<BR> <A=20 href=3D"http://thecheese.home.ml.org">http://thecheese.home.ml.org</A><BR= >Maybe=20 check out my town in AW!<BR>AW- 10000N=20 500W<BR>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01BDF0F1.B72FF540-- processOct 6, 1998, 11:12am
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BDF144.29142C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eep has a point there. I=B4m sure 95% of AW users don=B4t even know what = SDK means. Some people might find it useful. But AW needs REAL = enhancements for simple citizens. Maybe more avatars..objects.. = something new to user interface.. things like that.=20 Process [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BDF144.29142C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 = HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3509.100"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Eep has a point there. I´m = sure 95% of AW=20 users don´t even know what SDK means. Some people might find it = useful.=20 But AW needs REAL enhancements for simple citizens. Maybe more=20 avatars..objects.. something new to user interface.. things like that.=20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Process</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01BDF144.29142C60-- thecheeseOct 6, 1998, 5:43pm
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------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BDF140.0806B460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i know, i will never use it, but eep has responded negatively to too = many posts i've read. Is roland just gonna drop the SDK now. bang boom = forgot? no. its his decison. When I posted about the list of place in = aw, he was negative, negative too all the posts. I actually wasn't = dissapointed at some of his points when he was banned from the = newsgroups, and would like to see him banned permanatly. If he is soo = negative about cof, quit aw, if they are that much of a problem. Jeez. = some people cheese --=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Check out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome graphics! http://thecheese.home.ml.org Maybe check out my town in AW! AW- 10000N 500W -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BDF140.0806B460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 = HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"><!DOCTYPE HTML = PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>i know, i will never use it, but eep = has=20 responded negatively to too many posts i've read. Is roland just gonna = drop the=20 SDK now. bang boom forgot? no. its his decison. When I posted about the = list of=20 place in aw, he was negative, negative too all the posts. I actually = wasn't=20 dissapointed at some of his points when he was banned from the = newsgroups, and=20 would like to see him banned permanatly. If he is soo negative about = cof, quit=20 aw, if they are that much of a problem. Jeez. some people</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>cheese</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><BR>--=20 <BR></FONT>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-<BR>Check=20 out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome=20 graphics!<BR> <A=20 href=3D"http://thecheese.home.ml.org">http://thecheese.home.ml.org</A><BR= >Maybe=20 check out my town in AW!<BR>AW- 10000N=20 500W<BR>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BDF140.0806B460-- groverOct 6, 1998, 6:47pm
Eep: one of your major complaints has been that AW only has one
programmer to work on all the stuff. The reason there's only one is not for lack of desire for a larger team, but that they can only afford to hire one programmer. With the SDK ("Software Developers Kit") there is now a vertiable army of programmers all donating their time for free to pump out all these little applications that Roland wouldnt' have had time for. I bet that within a month 95% of the AW population *will* be using SDK developed programs! Hambot+Robobuilder are just two examples of programs that can potentionally be a Lot better after incorporating the SDK functions. grover [View Quote] > ...wish that AW would return to REAL development and forget this lame > SDK crap that 95% of the AW population won't be able to use... =?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 6, 1998, 9:18pm
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Um, as I understand the gist of the SDK, it's for bots and bots only. If this isn't the case, please correct me, but I'm pretty sure all it's for are bots. You can only do SO much with bots... I'd much rather have clipping fixed and better collision detection, among a bajillion other things on The List™. Besides, most of the INHERENT, BASIC problems lie in the rendering engine itself, or at least COF's implementation of it. I feel that needs SERIOUS work before any LUXURY features like bots. <twirl finger> I'd much rather have the ENGINE of a car working better than the sunroof, dig? This ain't brain surgery...priorities, COF, priorities. Icing on the cake or the ingredients that make up the cake itself. Think please. [View Quote] > Eep: one of your major complaints has been that AW only has one > programmer to work on all the stuff. The reason there's only one is not > for lack of desire for a larger team, but that they can only afford to > hire one programmer. With the SDK ("Software Developers Kit") there is > now a vertiable army of programmers all donating their time for free to > pump out all these little applications that Roland wouldnt' have had > time for. I bet that within a month 95% of the AW population *will* be > using SDK developed programs! Hambot+Robobuilder are just two examples > of programs that can potentionally be a Lot better after incorporating > the SDK functions. > [View Quote] --------------F5F3C5F63267D25CBDFA0E43 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> Um, as I understand the gist of the SDK, it's for bots and bots only. If this isn't the case, please correct me, but I'm pretty sure all it's for are bots. You can only do SO much with bots... I'd much rather have clipping fixed and better collision detection, among a bajillion other things on The List™. <P>Besides, most of the INHERENT, BASIC problems lie in the rendering engine itself, or at least COF's implementation of it. I feel that needs SERIOUS work before any LUXURY features like bots. <twirl finger> I'd much rather have the ENGINE of a car working better than the sunroof, dig? This ain't brain surgery...priorities, COF, priorities. Icing on the cake or the ingredients that make up the cake itself. Think please. [View Quote] --------------F5F3C5F63267D25CBDFA0E43-- the bardOct 6, 1998, 10:06pm
OK, here's your correction: The SDK is not only for Bots, they just
happen to be the current craze. Basically, the SDK allows third party apps to manipulate the AW client and/or server without human intervention, other than initial setup, being required. The only reason that Bots are the focus right now is that Bots are the focus right now. The SDK's uses are only limited by the imagination and programming skills of those using it. [View Quote] =?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 6, 1998, 11:40pm
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Welllllll, then you might want to give Roland more ideas cuz all he has up on the "other applications" link on the SDK site are bots. <yawn> Bots are so passe... [View Quote] > OK, here's your correction: The SDK is not only for Bots, they just > happen to be the current craze. Basically, the SDK allows third party > apps to manipulate the AW client and/or server without human > intervention, other than initial setup, being required. The only reason > that Bots are the focus right now is that Bots are the focus right now. > The SDK's uses are only limited by the imagination and programming > skills of those using it. --------------AE5F5488355B3718DC53E03C Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> Welllllll, then you might want to give Roland more ideas cuz all he has up on the "other applications" link on the SDK site are bots. <yawn> Bots are so passe... [View Quote] --------------AE5F5488355B3718DC53E03C-- scott d. millerOct 7, 1998, 12:38am
hmmm, strange, quoting didn't work... Oh well.
Yea, one of the constant negativisms he keeps spouting is, "Forget it, ain't gonna happen. CoF never listens to us. This newsgroup only exists to keep us from buggin them." Sheesh, it is a WISHlist newsgroup, not a REALITYlist newsgroup. Do you think he'd be happy if no one ever posted anything to this newsgroup? Sometimes after reading his posts, my ass hurts. ScottyDM -- Scott D. Miller General Manager & Principal Consultant Arête, Ltd. Please use the return e-mail address of: scottydm at codenet.net thecheeseOct 7, 1998, 8:31am
when I read his posts i usually just go pthhhhhh....
Like I pity his extreme childness. COm on, i'm only 12 cheese -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Check out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome graphics! http://thecheese.home.ml.org Maybe check out my town in AW! AW- 10000N 500W -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [View Quote] thecheeseOct 7, 1998, 8:35am
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------=_NextPart_000_009D_01BDF1BC.B1AA0FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i happen to like the bots, they are quite interesting. Someof them, if = they have the right rights, can delete citizenships/add/delete worlds. = They allow real interaction with the enviroment, like Turnadoes etc. The = programs, wich are more advanced (people don't become a master at C = overnight,) can be real interesting. Like a instant object builder bot, = anywhere in aw cheese --=20 -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Check out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome graphics! http://thecheese.home.ml.org Maybe check out my town in AW! AW- 10000N 500W -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- [View Quote] OK, here's your correction: The SDK is not only for Bots, they = just=20 happen to be the current craze. Basically, the SDK allows third = party=20 apps to manipulate the AW client and/or server without human=20 intervention, other than initial setup, being required. The = only reason=20 that Bots are the focus right now is that Bots are the focus = right now.=20 The SDK's uses are only limited by the imagination and = programming=20 skills of those using it. ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01BDF1BC.B1AA0FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>i happen to like the bots, they are = quite=20 interesting. Someof them, if they have the right rights, can delete=20 citizenships/add/delete worlds. They allow real interaction with the = enviroment,=20 like Turnadoes etc. The programs, wich are more advanced (people don't = become a=20 master at C overnight,) can be real interesting. Like a instant = object=20 builder bot, anywhere in aw</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>cheese</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><BR>--=20 <BR></FONT>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-<BR>Check=20 out my homepage, it is chocked full of awesome=20 graphics!<BR> <A=20 href=3D"http://thecheese.home.ml.org">http://thecheese.home.ml.org</A><BR= >Maybe=20 check out my town in AW!<BR>AW- 10000N=20 500W<BR>-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-= =3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= -=3D-</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_009D_01BDF1BC.B1AA0FE0-- joe rodgersOct 9, 1998, 12:33am
THis is one of the only times I agree with eep I'd like to use the SDK
but I neve rhave enough time to learn programming... [View Quote] runeOct 14, 1998, 4:23pm
I agree to this point. 1 programmer (which indeed is all COF can afford,
the bulk of their revenues go to keeping the servers up and paying Roland, their sole programmer). So Grover made a good point, we can wait and wait and wait and watch our individual wishes SLOWLY be made one by one by Mr. Roland. OR he can hand brooms to all the willing sweepers and let them help clean the pile. Bada boom bada bing, the List™ is a whole lot shorter, and getting shorter faster. -raiven- [View Quote] runeOct 14, 1998, 6:47pm
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------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF779.39C72D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For my sentence to make any sense you have to read the rest of my = message...putting the end of my page as a stand alone statement does not = convey my previous post. Nor does your question have any relevance when = added to the context of my previous post. -raiven- (rune) [View Quote] Bada boom bada bing, the List=99 is a whole lot shorter, and = getting shorter=20 faster. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF779.39C72D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>For my sentence to make any sense = you have to=20 read the rest of my message...putting the end of my page as a stand = alone=20 statement does not convey my previous post. Nor does your question = have=20 any relevance when added to the context of my previous = post.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>-raiven- (rune)</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01BDF779.39C72D60-- =?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 14, 1998, 6:49pm
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wanna bet? If anything it's getting longer. Have you seen it recently? [View Quote] > Bada boom bada bing, the List™ is a whole lot shorter, and getting shorter > faster. --------------9FD13F2CDACD6328ABCAA2C8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> Wanna bet? If anything it's getting longer. Have you seen it recently? [View Quote] --------------9FD13F2CDACD6328ABCAA2C8-- cdmOct 14, 1998, 11:04pm
I sure haven't. I wish Roland would publish it some where.
-- REINSTATE PROTAGONIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eep² <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article <36250E60.83B0F20C at tnlc.com>... > Wanna bet? If anything it's getting longer. Have you seen it recently? > [View Quote] =?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 14, 1998, 11:15pm
Sorry, that copout ain't gonna work. Try again.
[View Quote] > For my sentence to make any sense you have to read the rest of my message...putting the end of my page as a stand alone statement does not convey my previous post. Nor does your question have any relevance when added to the context of my previous post. > [View Quote] =?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 14, 1998, 11:54pm
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Well I have and can tell you that most of the stuff on it STILL hasn't been done. Roland asked me not to show it to anyone though so I won't post it here, but you can ask him yourself about it. [View Quote] > I sure haven't. I wish Roland would publish it some where. > Eep² <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article <36250E60.83B0F20C at tnlc.com>... --------------EE9EDF442BFA926E7803A00D Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> Well I have and can tell you that most of the stuff on it STILL hasn't been done. Roland asked me not to show it to anyone though so I won't post it here, but you can ask him yourself about it. [View Quote] <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Eep² <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article <36250E60.83B0F20C at tnlc.com>... <BR>> Wanna bet? If anything it's getting longer. Have you seen it recently? <BR>> [View Quote] --------------EE9EDF442BFA926E7803A00D-- runeOct 15, 1998, 12:04am
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------=_NextPart_000_0040_01BDF7A5.7B2C3080 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My original message:: >I agree to this point. 1 programmer (which indeed is all COF can = >afford,the bulk of their revenues go to keeping the servers up and = >paying Roland,their sole programmer). So Grover made a good >point, we = can wait and wait and wait and watch our individual wishes >SLOWLY be = made one by one by Mr. Roland. OR he can hand >brooms to all the = willing sweepers and let them help clean the pile. >Bada boom bada bing, the List=99 is a whole lot shorter, and getting = >shorter >faster. -raiven- [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01BDF7A5.7B2C3080 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.2106.6"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>My original message::</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>>I agree to this point. 1 programmer (which indeed is all = COF can=20 >afford,the bulk of their revenues go to keeping the servers up and=20 >paying Roland,their sole programmer). So Grover made a good = >point,=20 we can wait and wait and wait and watch our individual wishes >SLOWLY = be made=20 one by one by Mr. Roland. OR he can hand >brooms to all the = willing=20 sweepers and let them help clean the pile.<BR><BR>>Bada boom bada = bing, the=20 List=99 is a whole lot shorter, and getting=20 >shorter<BR>>faster.<BR><BR>-raiven-<BR><BR><BR><BR>grover wrote = in=20 message <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:361A81EA.628F714A at nospam.synergycorp.com">361A81EA.628F714= A at nospam.synergycorp.com</A>>...<BR>>Eep:=20 one of your major complaints has been that AW only has = one<BR>>programmer to=20 work on all the stuff. The reason there's only one is = not<BR>>for lack=20 of desire for a larger team, but that they can only afford = to<BR>>hire one=20 programmer. With the SDK ("Software Developers = Kit") there=20 is<BR>>now a vertiable army of programmers all donating their time = for free=20 to<BR>>pump out all these little applications that Roland wouldnt' = have=20 had<BR>>time for. I bet that within a month 95% of the AW = population=20 *will* be<BR>>using SDK developed programs! Hambot+Robobuilder = are just=20 two examples<BR>>of programs that can potentionally be a Lot better = after=20 incorporating<BR>>the SDK=20 functions.<BR>><BR>>grover<BR>><BR>>Eep²=20 [View Quote] population won't be able to=20 use...<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0040_01BDF7A5.7B2C3080-- cdmOct 15, 1998, 1:42am
I got his point. It seems that everybody else in this newsgroup caught
his point. Or, at least no one has disagreed with him on the matter, or they just don't care. Why is it that if YOU don't get something, it is, by default, the writer's fault?? -- REINSTATE PROTAGONIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eep² <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article <36254CB7.B4899A34 at tnlc.com>... > Sorry, that copout ain't gonna work. Try again. > [View Quote] roluOct 15, 1998, 9:17am
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------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BDF83E.324845E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why can't we see it? [View Quote] I sure haven't. I wish Roland would publish it some where. Eep=B2 <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article = <36250E60.83B0F20C at tnlc.com>...=20 > Wanna bet? If anything it's getting longer. Have you seen it = recently?=20 >=20 [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BDF83E.324845E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 = Transitional//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Why can't we see it?</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 solid 2px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: = 5px"> [View Quote] ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01BDF83E.324845E0-- =?iso-8859-1?q?eep=b2?=Oct 15, 1998, 7:09pm
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Because you'll see just how LITTLE AW has developed. Roland also said most stuff on the 10/17/97 List is irrelevant too. [View Quote] > Why can't we see it? > [View Quote] --------------E1A4B5134D0704DFC135BA5A Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML> Because you'll see just how LITTLE AW has developed. Roland also said most stuff on the 10/17/97 List is irrelevant too. [View Quote] <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE>Eep² <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in article <36250E60.83B0F20C at tnlc.com>... <BR>> Wanna bet? If anything it's getting longer. Have you seen it recently? <BR>> [View Quote] --------------E1A4B5134D0704DFC135BA5A-- |
