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Jul 14, 2005, 12:29pm

Is there a cover charge to belong to this newsgroup?


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Jul 14, 2005, 1:36pm

I just don't know how to respond to you Orb...

You are vile. You have tried to take advantage of the death of one of my
most treasured friends, and even though you failed in your attempt - let me
tell you this in front of all of these people.

I will never, ever, ever forgive or forget what you have tried to do here.

PAGE did not deserve to have his life cut short.
PAGE did not deserve to die.
PAGE was one of the most respectable men I have ever met.

But you Orb, for what you have done here, you do not deserve to live.
I wish it was you who had died, Orb, and not him.
He was a far better person than you just proved you could ever be.


I am so sorry that this is how your passing has been treated my friend.

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- Mark Randall
http://zetech.swehli.com

Jul 14, 2005, 1:55pm

You are complaining about someone being in charge letting out a few
harmless words. While your complaining about Strike Rapier, your also
complaining about yourself.
You don't remember telling C P to stop "the fucking bleeding" in camp
awteen? Yes thats a very good example your setting as a cabin leader.

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Jul 14, 2005, 1:58pm

Does this mean that anyone suffering from a tragic situation, get to toss
civilization out the window and go the Gate, or any public place for that
matter, and stampede with every fowl thought, ill-wish and corrupted
behavior known and unknown... since they are behaving out of an expression
of "genuine emotions" ? Or Tart, would you eject them ?

You think it's normal that someone at a funerel or wedding screeches out
obsceneties to others for behaving decently?

You'll notice a lot of the teens (and adults) online have ODD, which is
Opositional Defiant Disorder. They are apparently wanting to recreate their
own new civilization since the rules that are in place 'in the real world'
anger them and rob them of their freedom of expression.

Jul 14, 2005, 2:03pm

This would be the typical reaction of the teen you have described:
"OMG PAGE DIED YAY I FUCKING HATE PK'S PLZ"

The fact that a teenager (Or adult) had sympathy for someone who has
just passed away is completley diffrent from the above.
Indeed PAGE wouldn't like you posting a chat log here and complaining
about a little language and what possibly could be your worrying vision
for the CY's:
"And for Community and Spirit, oh Fucking great, its"

Yes like Strike is going to make the Cy's very colorful. He is doing his
bit for the community, and a little language forces you to bitch and
moan about something so small.

Have some respect and some sympathy, and be thankful that Strike is
doing something for the community rather than using the newsgroups as
the City Chatlog dump.

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Jul 14, 2005, 2:14pm

That whole scenario was set up to begin with Rapier.

"But you Orb, for what you have done here, you do not deserve to live.
I wish it was you who had died, Orb, and not him.
He was a far better person than you just proved you could ever be."

It was you and that tourist coming in at that very moment who are
despicable. Why was that person a tourist? The citizen who was in "tourist
mode" didnt' want to be involved in such a horrific situation? Why did a
tourist know about Page's passing before you ( the dear close friend you say
you are ) ? Get off your insanity trip, you and your "teen" buddies, if
they are even teens at all, go get some therapy.

Jul 14, 2005, 3:06pm

Get over yourself, you stupid cow. Warriorken300012 is an active
tourist, I've seen him around. It's entirely possible that he could find
out before Mark. Mark Randall may have a few undesirable qualities, but
he would never do anything like what you have just accused him of.

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Jul 14, 2005, 3:09pm

Name calling becomes you RoseyBuoy.

Jul 14, 2005, 3:12pm

Plenty more where that came from.

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Jul 14, 2005, 3:14pm

Geeez I might cuss if you keep it up !
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Jul 14, 2005, 3:19pm

This isn't a joking matter, ORB. I stick up for my friends.

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Jul 14, 2005, 3:29pm

I know it's not a joking matter. You accuse me of not caring about someone
passing away. You don't even know me at all. I'm 44 years old and I'm a
high risk heart patient because of a medicine that I HAVE to take which
deals with another medical situation that I have... and I see the value of
life more than most of you teens do at this point. Now you can start
cheering!!!!!!

Some of you can take something and wrench it around until it's nearly
unrecognizable. I found it crude the way the initial conversation ensued.
A person given authority in an important part of Active Worlds such as an
award system ought to be handled by respectable mature person/people. Not
those with a vendetta.

You keep sticking up for them too please ok? See if you jump on that wagon
you'll get a CY for your efforts. I see the future of AW in the hands of
some of you and I think it's pitiful.

Jul 14, 2005, 3:35pm

[View Quote] I didn't.

> Not those with a vendetta.

You're one to talk. You have no evidence against Mark, you're only
accusing him because of your personal feelings towards him.

> I see the future of AW in the hands of some of you and I think it's pitiful.

Please don't turn this into some kind of age war. This is about you
taking advantage of Mark's emotional outburst. That you could even think
of accusing him for setting the situation up is... wow.

Jul 14, 2005, 3:39pm

I didn't accuse HIM of setting up that scenario. Where are you reading that
from?
situation up is... wow.

To clear things up on the age matter, I've said both some teens and some
adults have ODD. So it's not just teens behaving like cave people in AW!

Jul 14, 2005, 3:40pm

This isn't about trying to get a cy award, that is total bullshit
Ross is sticking up for his freinds and your still bitching.

Do you see the future of AW in the hands of noone? Of course you do, it
would be pathetic

[View Quote] > You keep sticking up for them too please ok? See if you jump on that wagon
> you'll get a CY for your efforts. I see the future of AW in the hands of
> some of you and I think it's pitiful.
>
>

Jul 14, 2005, 3:40pm

(retyping that last post it's messed up)

I didn't accuse HIM of setting up that scenario. Where are you reading that
from?


To clear things up on the age matter, I've said both some teens and some
adults have ODD. So it's not just teens behaving like cave people in AW!




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Jul 14, 2005, 3:41pm

People like you Gnu are not everyone !

Jul 14, 2005, 3:44pm

Take off your Crown of Thorns, plz, Sharon.

Wanna compare health charts? I'm 48 years old, confined to a wheel chair 98%
of my waking hours because I was diagnosed with MS 23 years ago. I take some
medicines to couteract the side effects of other medications I take.

I, too, know the value of life and the value of the quality of life. I also
know when something isn't worth the energy to get all riled up over.

Why do you think I would not take your bait today when you tried to drag
this idiotic argument into The Gate?



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Jul 14, 2005, 3:44pm

"Stop with the stupid "community" excuse, goddamn it people can read
theres no need to be an attention whore and repost everything you post." -

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Nice Gnu very nice.

Jul 14, 2005, 3:47pm

Yes you did. If he wasn't in on the scenario being set up, then that
reaction would still be a real one, thus your accusation would be
baseless. Plus, you accused him of conspiring with a "teen" friend
logged in as a tourist.

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Jul 14, 2005, 3:48pm

That wasn't bait. This is a real concern. Otherwise why have PK's and GK's
and why should anyone care about anything for that matter? Let's just let
every situation go when we see something going wrong. Let's let the people
in the streets get robbed and raped or even worse killed. Let everyone wish
everyone else dies. Let's see, maybe I'll go stand in the middle of the
gate while you're on duty and cuss for everything that I hurt about. Would
you eject me? This isn't just about cussing.

Jul 14, 2005, 3:58pm

Real concern?

Real concern over what? Mark cussed because of emotional distraught. Oh
boo hoo. When is that likely to happen again?

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Jul 14, 2005, 6:04pm

All I have to say if you don't like how AW is being handled, GTFO and
STFU. Simple.

Jul 14, 2005, 6:34pm

NO! and the same goes for everyone like you !

Jul 14, 2005, 8:16pm

Yes, i'm not the one using the community as a reason for posting logs
and a very stupid opinion of someone

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Jul 14, 2005, 9:26pm

In what world did this incident happen? Was it a PK patrolled world or The
Gate?

If you truely have concerns and if I could address any of them, I'd be more
than happy to meet you in AW somewhere and discuss them.

If this had happened on my shift in The Gate, I would have said I'm sorry
for what happened to Page but to plz remember to keep your language
appropriate for a G rated world. Just as I would sympathize with your hurts
but keep your language in check should you do as you suggested you might on
my shift. Stuff happens all the time in RL. A lot of it not good. We can not
turn a blind eye to it, nor can we force our personal morals on others.

I follow the guidelines of a GateKeeper while on duty. I signed a pledge to
uphold those guidelines. However, what others do in other worlds of AW is
not my concern as a GK. And most of what ppl do the world over in RL is
beyond my comprehension.

I think to obsess over something that happened in a VR chat is unhealthy.
You are getting ridiculous now, talking about letting robbers, rapists and
murders do as they plz.

If this isn't just about cussing, then what is it about?


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Jul 14, 2005, 9:55pm

What I said about my behaving that way at the gate was hypothetical. I'm
not obsessing.

Jul 14, 2005, 10:03pm

Then I truely do not know what all the hubbub is about.

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Jul 14, 2005, 10:09pm

Another hypothetical situation.

~~~~~~Your friend passes away and you find out while you're standing at the
gate. It's not your shift at that time, yet you put on your privs right
after hearing about it and start swearing. ~~~~~~

Appropriate? Respectful?

Jul 14, 2005, 10:27pm

My bot records clearly show I had logged on to the CT citizenship before I
even knew what was happened as I had been directing people to send any
comments to it, instead of me. Coming off the CT privileges would have put
me on PS.

For the record, I am not, nor have I ever been fully in charge of the CYs. I
am hoping that Teal and I can pull something off together.

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- Mark Randall
http://zetech.swehli.com

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