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dabean o

Jun 23, 2005, 5:40pm
Observe th efollowing picture for a small glitch I noticed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v676/dabean/glitch.jpg

Bean

elyk

Jun 23, 2005, 6:00pm
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Masks over another masked object have been doing that for a while now.
I'm not sure if it's something that has been able to be fixed yet.
Apparently if you place a mask over another mask it generates a negative
effect and makes what appears to be an x-ray through your first object.
I've enclosed a picture to show what I'm explaining. I'm not sure if
the chatboxes that they added to the browser a while back use the same
concept or not.

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object 1: tree9m.rwx
object 2: pictwll3.rwx (create texture chest2 mask=awd7m)


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sw comit

Jun 23, 2005, 6:02pm
That bug is bittersweet...it has a lot of useful applications like windows,
but its also a pest for things like murky water effects.

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m0e

Jun 24, 2005, 11:59am
this 'feature' is OLD .... dating back to the days or Roland


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vera

Jun 24, 2005, 2:45pm
Yes it's an old thing... i dont know if it's a glitch.... i guess it's
what happens when we use mask on top of a masked object... some objects
(like in this case a wk01h.rwx) tends to disapear..... Look at inside
the top window in this house I did around 2002or 03......

http://vera.aw.50megs.com/folder1/opensky1.jpg
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[View Quote] > this 'feature' is OLD .... dating back to the days or Roland
>
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vera

Jun 24, 2005, 2:52pm
errrr:((( I guess this page can't be open here... sorry:( In case anyone
wants to take a look at the house here are the coords. AW at
6555.37N 6645.31W 0.51a 180
[View Quote] > Yes it's an old thing... i dont know if it's a glitch.... i guess it's
> what happens when we use mask on top of a masked object... some objects
> (like in this case a wk01h.rwx) tends to disapear..... Look at inside
> the top window in this house I did around 2002or 03......
>
> http://vera.aw.50megs.com/folder1/opensky1.jpg
> --------------------------------------------------
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sw comit

Jun 24, 2005, 3:19pm
It's a common graphical glitch. It's not just AW. Tons of engines have
this same problem. You just don't see it much because the devs try to avoid
it when building the game world. Read about it on THG awhile back.

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dabean o

Jun 24, 2005, 3:20pm
I guess youall can see I dont build much, and have no idea how to use
masks lol.. But anyways, I started up a thread :)
-Bean

gnu32

Jun 25, 2005, 11:08am
Happens on today's graphics cards (Well, i saw the glitch on a nvidia
and Intel card) and i've seen major mask glitching on GTA:VC (Looking at
edges of tree's leaves,2d Railing)

Curious question though, does OpenGL mode improve the masking glitch a
bit? Could be a DirectX Thing

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andras

Jun 25, 2005, 11:16am
[View Quote] To properly render mask over mask the renderer should render each polygon one by one and has to know the distance of the objects for each element.
Almost ALL 3D apps tries to minimize it's use because it is not only CPU intensive but requires a manual z-buffering calculation instead of the graphic card.
We went into a deep details with Roland when it first surfaced and he decided that for the sake of the rendering speed, he will not implement it. Our approximation was that it would slow down the frame rate to about 1/3rd!!

I hope it explains,
--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

vera

Jun 25, 2005, 12:59pm
yesssss Andrasssss... thanks sooo much..... But about the DirectX and Open GL.... What I have noticed is that in DirectX the buffering is terrible.....

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andras

Jun 25, 2005, 5:40pm
[View Quote] > yesssss Andrasssss... thanks sooo much..... But about the DirectX and Open GL.... What I have noticed is that in DirectX the buffering is terrible.....
>
>

Well,,,, complain to the author :)

--
Andras
"It's MY computer" (tm Steve Gibson)

legion

Jun 27, 2005, 12:17am
And that would be Microsoft, yes? ;P

Sincerely,
Willy Gates
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gnu32

Jun 27, 2005, 12:53pm
Bill gates is showing off his Mask-Glitching xbox 360 atm, plz hold kthx
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