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Sep 23, 2004, 10:57pm

1.) Alphaworld object path closed to public.

2.) Alphaworld's new objects removed.

3.) Alphaworld Games Bots removed.

4.) Alphaworld went down for brief time.

5.) Customs Aide vanished for a few hours.

6.) Price hikes back in 2002 (Worlds and Citizens)

7.) AWSales world vandalized.

8.) Various worlds either abandoned or dead.

9.) Lack of business contracts lately.

10.) Ejection by Customs Aide of the folks mentioning certain urls of the
AW's competitors.

11.) Allegations of Gatekeeper abuse scandal (Actually I wasn't able to
strongly confirm it but it appeared more and more abuses were alleged.
Again, I wasn't able to confirm it).

12.) M A T T situation

13.) Decline of various community organizations such as Alphaworld
Historical Society (An impression made on myself after my request for
OneSummer to keep me informed of AWHS goings-on have resulted in no updates,
from her anyway) and others. Universal Town Network closed up. Active Worlds
Community Register (AWComReg) and Active Worlds Info Square (AWInfo) closed
up.

14.) Certain major towns and villages such as Pink Village no longer
operates after their long-time existance.

15.) Beta newsgroup closed to public reading, thereby cutting off access to
beta information. http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw40/ cutting off access
to beta information. All attempts to stonewall attempts to gain information
about next version was made.

16.) Numbers of worlds/users is indeterminate in terms of its decline or
growth (recovery). Various conflicting accounts suggests growth (recovery)
or decline.

17.) Numbers of well-known worlds such as Discover by Hal 9000 and Varnia by
Lord Chadd and others are no longer existed.

18.) Partnership between Activeworlds Inc. (then as part of Activeworlds
Corporation) and Juno failed to generate significant revenues (among the
strong factors in failing to generate interests among Juno users are lack of
powerful features that came too late and et cetera). Caligari Corporation no
longer has a valid partnership with Activeworlds Inc., as the Activeworlds
Inc. is still offering Truespace 4 on its website, whereas Caligari
Corporation is currently offering Truespace 6. Criterion Software Limited
(CSL) did not mention any partnership with Activeworlds Inc. on its partners
page.

That's all I can think of. Mr. President, you may take opportunities to
provide any rebuttal for it, or even better, to offer an explanation for
latest events. Besides, press releases on the website of Activeworlds Inc.
has been outdated and no September newsletter has been released. We would
like an explanation. I do not want to get in trouble with Activeworlds Inc.
as Eep did but rather to ask for explanation and to show a growing concerns
for our beloved Active Worlds universe. Let's have all reasons.

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Chairman of Rockford Township, Phin County, Alphaworld

Sep 23, 2004, 11:27pm

Im sad to remember about AWInfo:(((( I have created like 6 or 8 beautiful
buildings:(((( and no one can see it.......very sad....cause was like labor of
love from me to the program:((((( And no one even cares to let me know about
it!!!!!!!

[View Quote] > 1.) Alphaworld object path closed to public.
>
> 2.) Alphaworld's new objects removed.
>
> 3.) Alphaworld Games Bots removed.
>
> 4.) Alphaworld went down for brief time.
>
> 5.) Customs Aide vanished for a few hours.
>
> 6.) Price hikes back in 2002 (Worlds and Citizens)
>
> 7.) AWSales world vandalized.
>
> 8.) Various worlds either abandoned or dead.
>
> 9.) Lack of business contracts lately.
>
> 10.) Ejection by Customs Aide of the folks mentioning certain urls of the
> AW's competitors.
>
> 11.) Allegations of Gatekeeper abuse scandal (Actually I wasn't able to
> strongly confirm it but it appeared more and more abuses were alleged.
> Again, I wasn't able to confirm it).
>
> 12.) M A T T situation
>
> 13.) Decline of various community organizations such as Alphaworld
> Historical Society (An impression made on myself after my request for
> OneSummer to keep me informed of AWHS goings-on have resulted in no updates,
> from her anyway) and others. Universal Town Network closed up. Active Worlds
> Community Register (AWComReg) and Active Worlds Info Square (AWInfo) closed
> up.
>
> 14.) Certain major towns and villages such as Pink Village no longer
> operates after their long-time existance.
>
> 15.) Beta newsgroup closed to public reading, thereby cutting off access to
> beta information. http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw40/ cutting off access
> to beta information. All attempts to stonewall attempts to gain information
> about next version was made.
>
> 16.) Numbers of worlds/users is indeterminate in terms of its decline or
> growth (recovery). Various conflicting accounts suggests growth (recovery)
> or decline.
>
> 17.) Numbers of well-known worlds such as Discover by Hal 9000 and Varnia by
> Lord Chadd and others are no longer existed.
>
> 18.) Partnership between Activeworlds Inc. (then as part of Activeworlds
> Corporation) and Juno failed to generate significant revenues (among the
> strong factors in failing to generate interests among Juno users are lack of
> powerful features that came too late and et cetera). Caligari Corporation no
> longer has a valid partnership with Activeworlds Inc., as the Activeworlds
> Inc. is still offering Truespace 4 on its website, whereas Caligari
> Corporation is currently offering Truespace 6. Criterion Software Limited
> (CSL) did not mention any partnership with Activeworlds Inc. on its partners
> page.
>
> That's all I can think of. Mr. President, you may take opportunities to
> provide any rebuttal for it, or even better, to offer an explanation for
> latest events. Besides, press releases on the website of Activeworlds Inc.
> has been outdated and no September newsletter has been released. We would
> like an explanation. I do not want to get in trouble with Activeworlds Inc.
> as Eep did but rather to ask for explanation and to show a growing concerns
> for our beloved Active Worlds universe. Let's have all reasons.
>
> --
> Legion
> Chairman of Rockford Township, Phin County, Alphaworld

Sep 24, 2004, 12:08am

Lol, Rick doesn't owe us any explanations... we are paying him money, if
we don't like what he does, or what happens, we stop paying him money,
simple as that :-) What I've said, is that if you don't like what's
happening, do something about it. Casting blame on the CEO of the company
is a very easy thing to do, but let's face it, few people actually work to
make AW a better place (awesome job to those who are!), what I suggest, is
that you go out and start a citizen project or two :-) not something that
is newgroup oriented, or where you have to address Rick, because when you
do that, I'm noticing a certain lack of... shall we say... tact.. but why
not get involved in one of the community organizations? they need all the
help they can get :-) do something to make this place better, hehe. And
once you start doing that, you'll see that you can count the good things
that have happened in here much more than you can count the bad things :-)

J

[View Quote] > 1.) Alphaworld object path closed to public.
>
> 2.) Alphaworld's new objects removed.
>
> 3.) Alphaworld Games Bots removed.
>
> 4.) Alphaworld went down for brief time.
>
> 5.) Customs Aide vanished for a few hours.
>
> 6.) Price hikes back in 2002 (Worlds and Citizens)
>
> 7.) AWSales world vandalized.
>
> 8.) Various worlds either abandoned or dead.
>
> 9.) Lack of business contracts lately.
>
> 10.) Ejection by Customs Aide of the folks mentioning certain urls of the
> AW's competitors.
>
> 11.) Allegations of Gatekeeper abuse scandal (Actually I wasn't able to
> strongly confirm it but it appeared more and more abuses were alleged.
> Again, I wasn't able to confirm it).
>
> 12.) M A T T situation
>
> 13.) Decline of various community organizations such as Alphaworld
> Historical Society (An impression made on myself after my request for
> OneSummer to keep me informed of AWHS goings-on have resulted in no
> updates,
> from her anyway) and others. Universal Town Network closed up. Active
> Worlds
> Community Register (AWComReg) and Active Worlds Info Square (AWInfo)
> closed
> up.
>
> 14.) Certain major towns and villages such as Pink Village no longer
> operates after their long-time existance.
>
> 15.) Beta newsgroup closed to public reading, thereby cutting off access
> to
> beta information. http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw40/ cutting off
> access
> to beta information. All attempts to stonewall attempts to gain
> information
> about next version was made.
>
> 16.) Numbers of worlds/users is indeterminate in terms of its decline or
> growth (recovery). Various conflicting accounts suggests growth
> (recovery)
> or decline.
>
> 17.) Numbers of well-known worlds such as Discover by Hal 9000 and
> Varnia by
> Lord Chadd and others are no longer existed.
>
> 18.) Partnership between Activeworlds Inc. (then as part of Activeworlds
> Corporation) and Juno failed to generate significant revenues (among the
> strong factors in failing to generate interests among Juno users are
> lack of
> powerful features that came too late and et cetera). Caligari
> Corporation no
> longer has a valid partnership with Activeworlds Inc., as the
> Activeworlds
> Inc. is still offering Truespace 4 on its website, whereas Caligari
> Corporation is currently offering Truespace 6. Criterion Software Limited
> (CSL) did not mention any partnership with Activeworlds Inc. on its
> partners
> page.
>
> That's all I can think of. Mr. President, you may take opportunities to
> provide any rebuttal for it, or even better, to offer an explanation for
> latest events. Besides, press releases on the website of Activeworlds
> Inc.
> has been outdated and no September newsletter has been released. We would
> like an explanation. I do not want to get in trouble with Activeworlds
> Inc.
> as Eep did but rather to ask for explanation and to show a growing
> concerns
> for our beloved Active Worlds universe. Let's have all reasons.
>



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Sep 24, 2004, 12:45am

Late at night for me here, I'm not thinking right. Prices hiked back to
2002? They reset the prices or something? I didn't understand that :P

Jaguar

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Sep 24, 2004, 12:48am

Psst Legion: add number 19 as AWCamp prizes never arrived and people still
don't have a cit *COUGHCOUGH*

Jaguar Hahn

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Sep 24, 2004, 1:26am

Agreed for the most part, jstone. Though it is quite tactless, as you put
it, to add new objects to the alpha world OP, then remove them a few days
later, along with access to the OP. I am not automatically accusing them of
anything right now, as right now I am hoping that it was some freak accident
that they will fix in a few days.

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Sep 24, 2004, 1:37am

So far there has been no free advertising since the AWInfo, AWCOMReg, and
UTN vanished, although SW City did get free advertising on GZ and
Immigration Officer during a birthday bash without even paying for it,
whereas Phin County and Horizon City still have to pay for it if they want
to advertise themselves. Hmm....

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Legion
Chairman of Rockford Township, Phin County, Alphaworld

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Sep 24, 2004, 2:47pm

So then open a world and give everyone free advertising there :-)

J

[View Quote] > So far there has been no free advertising since the AWInfo, AWCOMReg, and
> UTN vanished, although SW City did get free advertising on GZ and
> Immigration Officer during a birthday bash without even paying for it,
> whereas Phin County and Horizon City still have to pay for it if they
> want
> to advertise themselves. Hmm....
>



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Sep 24, 2004, 2:56pm

I don't know if you wrote this to me.....If so this is a prove that you don't
know what i do for the AW Community. Im an old citizen in AW and i loveeeee to
build and help ppl when i can. But when they close a world without even tell
you why.....and you have a lot to do with it.....its like this nose up
attitude......and this will not help the program grow. I hope you can
understand what i am trying to say.(sorry about the broken english).

[View Quote] > Lol, Rick doesn't owe us any explanations... we are paying him money, if
> we don't like what he does, or what happens, we stop paying him money,
> simple as that :-) What I've said, is that if you don't like what's
> happening, do something about it. Casting blame on the CEO of the company
> is a very easy thing to do, but let's face it, few people actually work to
> make AW a better place (awesome job to those who are!), what I suggest, is
> that you go out and start a citizen project or two :-) not something that
> is newgroup oriented, or where you have to address Rick, because when you
> do that, I'm noticing a certain lack of... shall we say... tact.. but why
> not get involved in one of the community organizations? they need all the
> help they can get :-) do something to make this place better, hehe. And
> once you start doing that, you'll see that you can count the good things
> that have happened in here much more than you can count the bad things :-)
>
> J
>
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Sep 24, 2004, 3:05pm

[View Quote] And how would they do that, exactly short of changing the entire thing.

> 2.) Alphaworld's new objects removed.

Shame...

> 3.) Alphaworld Games Bots removed.

Noone ever really used them...

> 4.) Alphaworld went down for brief time.

Goes down for maintainance at random.

> 5.) Customs Aide vanished for a few hours.

Dissapears most sundays.

> 6.) Price hikes back in 2002 (Worlds and Citizens)

Oh well, they needed the cash injection.,

> 7.) AWSales world vandalized.

Was a heap of lard anyhow..

> 8.) Various worlds either abandoned or dead.

Uh... well go visit them and make them un-dead!

> 9.) Lack of business contracts lately.

Bullshit.

> 10.) Ejection by Customs Aide of the folks mentioning certain urls of the
> AW's competitors.

Uh... wouldent you want to stop idiots coming and spamming links to it?

> 11.) Allegations of Gatekeeper abuse scandal (Actually I wasn't able to
> strongly confirm it but it appeared more and more abuses were alleged.
> Again, I wasn't able to confirm it).

Oh I can...

> 12.) M A T T situation

Doubt you know very much behind that.

> 13.) Decline of various community organizations such as Alphaworld
> Historical Society (An impression made on myself after my request for
> OneSummer to keep me informed of AWHS goings-on have resulted in no
> updates,
> from her anyway) and others. Universal Town Network closed up. Active
> Worlds

UTN has been dead for ages... AWHS is just... well ask Rossy.

> Community Register (AWComReg) and Active Worlds Info Square (AWInfo)
> closed
> up.

Well start them up again then.

> 14.) Certain major towns and villages such as Pink Village no longer
> operates after their long-time existance.
>
> 15.) Beta newsgroup closed to public reading, thereby cutting off access
> to
> beta information. http://www.activeworlds.com/help/aw40/ cutting off
> access
> to beta information. All attempts to stonewall attempts to gain
> information
> about next version was made.

Uh yes... we need our privacy in there for discussing features.

> 16.) Numbers of worlds/users is indeterminate in terms of its decline or
> growth (recovery). Various conflicting accounts suggests growth (recovery)
> or decline.

Well perhaps you should go on your own evidence... you DO have your own
evidence, right?

> 17.) Numbers of well-known worlds such as Discover by Hal 9000 and Varnia
> by
> Lord Chadd and others are no longer existed.

Poofness!

> 18.) Partnership between Activeworlds Inc. (then as part of Activeworlds
> Corporation) and Juno failed to generate significant revenues (among the
> strong factors in failing to generate interests among Juno users are lack
> of
> powerful features that came too late and et cetera). Caligari Corporation
> no
> longer has a valid partnership with Activeworlds Inc., as the Activeworlds
> Inc. is still offering Truespace 4 on its website, whereas Caligari
> Corporation is currently offering Truespace 6. Criterion Software Limited
> (CSL) did not mention any partnership with Activeworlds Inc. on its
> partners
> page.

Then they sued em! Good isnt it... PS: Not all go on there

> That's all I can think of. Mr. President, you may take opportunities to
> provide any rebuttal for it, or even better, to offer an explanation for
> latest events. Besides, press releases on the website of Activeworlds Inc.
> has been outdated and no September newsletter has been released. We would
> like an explanation. I do not want to get in trouble with Activeworlds
> Inc.
> as Eep did but rather to ask for explanation and to show a growing
> concerns
> for our beloved Active Worlds universe. Let's have all reasons.

No... you would like an explenation... the rest of us have paid enough
attention to know the answers already. PS: You may find eep to be one of the
most respectable people in AW... your just a pain ^_^

- Mark R
at Uni :D

Sep 24, 2004, 3:11pm

lol, no, definately didn't write it to you :-)

J

[View Quote] > I don't know if you wrote this to me.....If so this is a prove that you
> don't
> know what i do for the AW Community. Im an old citizen in AW and i
> loveeeee to
> build and help ppl when i can. But when they close a world without even
> tell
> you why.....and you have a lot to do with it.....its like this nose up
> attitude......and this will not help the program grow. I hope you can
> understand what i am trying to say.(sorry about the broken english).
>
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Sep 24, 2004, 9:23pm

awteen has two Customs Aides O_O

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Sep 24, 2004, 9:24pm

[View Quote] > 1.) Alphaworld object path closed to public.

For now, you can use this listing from February:
http://rb.vwtv.org/awdir/index.html

The new objects, textures and masks are contained in a separate list.
The link to that is in the "Note" part at the bottom.

Sep 24, 2004, 9:27pm

no, legion is correct about UTN being closed.. it is not dead, it was
officially closed by goober after nobody wanted to take over running it.

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Sep 24, 2004, 9:39pm

where was i during this...i find it hard that NOONE wanetd to run it 0_0 i
woulda done it for the community...
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Sep 24, 2004, 9:55pm

actually.. in an article about its closure that was written said something
like it is closed, and if someone wants to take over it they can.. but i
guess they wouyld be on their own, and anyone could just simply start a new
teleport network in is place any time they wanted, nobody said that you are
not allowed to start a teleport network, or restart a teleport network, in
this case that would be UTN. so please dont get the wrong idea from my
previous post, i did not mean everybody refused or declined to take over
UTN, i ment nobody step forward and said they will take over UTN.

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Sep 24, 2004, 10:09pm

*steps forward*
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Sep 24, 2004, 11:26pm

In other words, jstone2004 meant to aim at you but missed by hitting me. ;)
He's actually writing to you, Vera. =P

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Chairman of Rockford Township, Phin County, Alphaworld

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Sep 24, 2004, 11:42pm

You know, just looking at Rossy's link (http://rb.vwtv.org/awdir/index.html)
I went threw it, tryed looking at webcam32.jpg (I know it's down but when
your curious, your curious.) and before the error message was a *nix apache
error, BUT it's giving a Windows Server error; So, I guess they just
switched servers or something. Explains it? Could be.


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:: Owner of Delusional-Minds Hosting ::
Free world hosting.. Just a T-Gram will do it.

<snip>
>
> For now, you can use this listing from February:
> http://rb.vwtv.org/awdir/index.html
<snip>

Sep 25, 2004, 12:43am

You might want to talk to Goober King.
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Sep 25, 2004, 1:01am

he still around?
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Sep 25, 2004, 1:34am

Uh, no I'm not... Vera is an awesome member of this community, and I've
seen that, so why on earth would I have the audacity to write that to her?

J

[View Quote] > In other words, jstone2004 meant to aim at you but missed by hitting me.
> ;)
> He's actually writing to you, Vera. =P
>



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Sep 25, 2004, 1:41am

yeah, I think he runs AWRaido

J

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Sep 25, 2004, 9:18am

What on earth?

I just read that as "Vera is an awesome number"

John

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Sep 25, 2004, 10:46am

*does a double take* nope, I spelled member right, hehe, wrote that at
about 2:30 in the morning this morning, was up 'til 4 studying for my
economics test today :-) So if I had mistyped, lol, it wouldn't suprise me

J

[View Quote] > What on earth?
>
> I just read that as "Vera is an awesome number"
>
> John
>
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Sep 25, 2004, 2:26pm

Let me see...... 200678 taking a note to play the lotto:))))

[View Quote] > What on earth?
>
> I just read that as "Vera is an awesome number"
>
> John
>
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Sep 25, 2004, 3:07pm

No, that's because they actually did delete webcam32 and webcam321.

If you go to http://objects.activeworlds.com/aw/ it says Directory
Listing Denied.

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Sep 25, 2004, 3:31pm

[View Quote] I know that though; but look at the error it gives you when you goto
http://objects.activeworlds.com/aw/webcam32.jpg

They switched to a Windows Server. Thats why they havent enabled the
directory listing mod thing.

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Free world hosting.. Just a T-Gram will do it.

Sep 27, 2004, 1:08pm

We "seamlessly" upgraded the objects machine last week to a much
bigger-better-faster server. We are fixing the problems as they come up.

Thanks for your patience


E



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Sep 28, 2004, 4:16am

dare I say post on forum.swcity.net under "community." You should get a
reply from Goober King shortly after you post.

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