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To AW Nes Group Posters (Community)
To AW Nes Group Posters // Community
Apr 7, 2003, 10:50pm
Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those new
to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken serious,
and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
belong there.
Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
this would be the perfect setting for our games.
Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many months
ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many AW
citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like. It
must stop!
The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from which
to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone who
has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does not
have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do so.
It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
those which you would like to become involved.
Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to die,
just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which crosses
you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party, ignore,
block, or don't read their posts.
We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW. We
will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more fun
interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new citizen'
s group
It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
better place if more citizens would work together for the common good. It's
up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue to
respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but hopefully
this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just ask
yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
Thank You, The Game Staff.
PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
get involved.
Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW citizens
in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
Apr 7, 2003, 11:49pm
wow, Mark, you have some competition in how professional you both sound!
*grin*
J
[View Quote]"the game master" <the_game at sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:3e920eda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
> encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
> remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
>
>
> Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those
new
> to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
> legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
> readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken
serious,
> and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
> who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
> on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
> members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
> belong there.
>
>
> Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
> Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
> single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
> the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
> experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
> its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
> net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
> this would be the perfect setting for our games.
>
> Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
> citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
> unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many
months
> ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many
AW
> citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
> private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
> This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
> NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like.
It
> must stop!
>
> The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
> believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
> prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from
which
> to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone
who
> has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
>
>
>
> But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
> as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does
not
> have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do
so.
> It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
> detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
> Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
> those which you would like to become involved.
>
> Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to
die,
> just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which
crosses
> you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
>
> If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party,
ignore,
> block, or don't read their posts.
>
>
> We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
> intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
> better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW.
We
> will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
> businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more
fun
> interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new
citizen'
> s group
>
> It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
> constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
> better place if more citizens would work together for the common good.
It's
> up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue
to
> respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but
hopefully
> this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
> yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
> this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just
ask
> yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
>
>
> Thank You, The Game Staff.
>
>
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW
citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
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Apr 8, 2003, 1:10am
I don't mean for this to sound inappropriate or rude but..... your point
is...??
Sooner or later everyone will have to come to the conclusion that some
people are just going to do whatever it takes to be obstinate and make a
nascence of themselves. It is this group of people who will always be the
"vultures" waiting to make a stupid post.
What you're tying to do is great and noble ( I would even be willing to help
out on this new citizen's group)... But to think you'll ever get rid of all
the flames.. I feel is a false hope.
Regards,
Jeremy
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jeremy Booker - Owner / Webmaster
JTech Web Systems
www.JTechWebSystems.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about
itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own." -Mathew 5:34
[View Quote]"the game master" <the_game at sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:3e920eda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
> encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
> remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
>
>
> Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those
new
> to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
> legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
> readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken
serious,
> and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
> who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
> on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
> members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
> belong there.
>
>
> Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
> Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
> single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
> the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
> experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
> its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
> net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
> this would be the perfect setting for our games.
>
> Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
> citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
> unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many
months
> ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many
AW
> citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
> private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
> This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
> NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like.
It
> must stop!
>
> The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
> believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
> prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from
which
> to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone
who
> has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
>
>
>
> But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
> as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does
not
> have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do
so.
> It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
> detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
> Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
> those which you would like to become involved.
>
> Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to
die,
> just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which
crosses
> you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
>
> If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party,
ignore,
> block, or don't read their posts.
>
>
> We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
> intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
> better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW.
We
> will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
> businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more
fun
> interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new
citizen'
> s group
>
> It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
> constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
> better place if more citizens would work together for the common good.
It's
> up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue
to
> respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but
hopefully
> this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
> yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
> this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just
ask
> yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
>
>
> Thank You, The Game Staff.
>
>
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW
citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
|
Apr 8, 2003, 2:45am
I am not meaning to flame, or be rude. But it did seem odd, how you asked
for so much information of people, just to play your game, and win big
prizes. How do you make money? It seems as if you are selling our info, to
make money, to buy prizes, to give to us. I am not sure many people want
their info given out, or sold to anyone. I was all for your world, and very
interested in it, until I read all the info in your world. It scared me, as
well as others. Would you go into a world, or website, and give all of your
information to them, just to play a game?
I am being very serious, and very interested....as well as curious. I am
NOT, let me repeat that, NOT being rude. Maybe if you could just explain
it, it might help your case here. I have tried to ask you, in your world,
online, and on here why you want so much information, and you never
answered. You can send me an email if you prefer by replying to me, instead
of reply group.
I just dont want my real name, home address, phone number, and email address
sold, or given out to ANYONE....unless I give it to them directly. Not
indirectly through someone else. If you dont make money by our information,
how do you make money to give out all those great prizes?
[View Quote]"the game master" <the_game at sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:3e920eda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
> encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
> remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
>
>
> Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those
new
> to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
> legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
> readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken
serious,
> and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
> who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
> on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
> members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
> belong there.
>
>
> Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
> Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
> single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
> the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
> experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
> its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
> net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
> this would be the perfect setting for our games.
>
> Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
> citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
> unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many
months
> ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many
AW
> citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
> private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
> This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
> NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like.
It
> must stop!
>
> The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
> believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
> prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from
which
> to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone
who
> has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
>
>
>
> But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
> as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does
not
> have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do
so.
> It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
> detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
> Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
> those which you would like to become involved.
>
> Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to
die,
> just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which
crosses
> you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
>
> If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party,
ignore,
> block, or don't read their posts.
>
>
> We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
> intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
> better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW.
We
> will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
> businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more
fun
> interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new
citizen'
> s group
>
> It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
> constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
> better place if more citizens would work together for the common good.
It's
> up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue
to
> respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but
hopefully
> this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
> yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
> this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just
ask
> yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
>
>
> Thank You, The Game Staff.
>
>
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW
citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
|
Apr 8, 2003, 6:28am
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW
citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
Great idea, well, it would be if it was original. Unfortunatly,
organisations like this already exist. I would suggest that you go and join
one of the existing ones and infuse your enthusiasm into one of them,
otherwise it will jsut look like you are attempting to create an
organisation of citizens over which you have some kind of power and
influence. www.awcommunity.org is a place you should go to, I suggest you go
there and look at AWEC. AWEC is established, and has a good amountof
prestige attached to it as well as history. It needs a good influx of
enthusiastic citizens such as yourself. The other good thing about AWEC is
that it has a long history of association with AW management.
Trust me, you would be much better off in joining a group that already
exists and working with them on your plans, otherwise it stinks of nefarism,
and I am sure that you dont want any more antagonism and suspicion cast your
way. I see very little point in attempting to replicate AWEC - it wont go
very far.
Just a word of advice from someone who has a good idea as to what he is
talking about.
F.
Apr 8, 2003, 9:14am
I like the idea about the action council, sounds like a nice idea. However,
I think the rest of this port may be more detrimental to you than otherwise.
You (perhaps unknowingly) criticised A LOT of people. People generally
don't like that :)
Apr 8, 2003, 11:03am
As many other people have discovered before you, Lesson One for success
in AW is to ignore the detractors, because most of them don't know what
their talking about. Do what you think is right, and those who
appreciate your efforts will eventually outnumber those who don't.
That being said, I think I can explain *why* some people choose to blast
The Game. For starters, as you mentioned, most don't have any experience
with The Game, having never played or, in some cases, even visited the
world. I guess they just fear the unknown and decide to flame instead of
investigate. After all, it's much easier to fire off a vicious NG post,
than actually check out that which you're replying to (that takes WORK! :P).
Secondly, there is a general distaste for advertisements in the NG,
something I can somewhat sympathize with. It becomes more apparent when
you post them more often. I guess the flamers feel like you're invading
"their" space with what they consider as "spam". Unfortunately, until
AWI institutes an "announcement" NG, people are going to have to get
used to people using the NG to advertise, since so many people read it.
The third reason is something that Goddess Innie demonstrated so well,
and that is that some people are also suspicious of The Game because it
involves real life elements, like real prizes and the requirement of
real contact information. Since the only prizes they've come in contact
with in AW are citizenship extensions, worlds, and the like, the idea of
real prizes seems a bit too good to be true. And, of course, there is
the ever-present suspicion of having to hand out your personal
information to a relative stranger. Perhaps if you took the time to
explain how The Game works, you might be able to ease some of their fears.
But, in the end, the main thing is to simply ignore the flamers in here,
since those aren't the people you are trying to reach anyway. Your real
audience will be the ones who read the message and visit the world, not
the ones who bother to reply with derision and contempt.
[View Quote]the game master wrote:
> Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
> encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
> remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
>
>
> Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those new
> to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
> legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
> readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken serious,
> and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
> who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
> on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
> members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
> belong there.
>
>
> Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
> Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
> single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
> the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
> experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
> its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
> net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
> this would be the perfect setting for our games.
>
> Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
> citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
> unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many months
> ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many AW
> citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
> private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
> This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
> NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like. It
> must stop!
>
> The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
> believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
> prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from which
> to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone who
> has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
>
>
>
> But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
> as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does not
> have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do so.
> It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
> detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
> Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
> those which you would like to become involved.
>
> Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to die,
> just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which crosses
> you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
>
> If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party, ignore,
> block, or don't read their posts.
>
>
> We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
> intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
> better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW. We
> will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
> businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more fun
> interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new citizen'
> s group
>
> It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
> constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
> better place if more citizens would work together for the common good. It's
> up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue to
> respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but hopefully
> this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
> yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
> this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just ask
> yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
>
>
> Thank You, The Game Staff.
>
>
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
|
--
Goober King
Detracting the detractors
gooberking at utn.cjb.net
Apr 8, 2003, 4:07pm
hey, would just like to apologise about me reaction before. shouldnt have
judged something i wasnt sure about. and as a token of my appology, i'd like
to offer you help if you ever need any objects or textures made.
-SWE
[View Quote]"the game master" <the_game at sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:3e920eda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
> encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
> remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
>
>
> Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those
new
> to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
> legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
> readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken
serious,
> and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
> who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
> on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
> members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
> belong there.
>
>
> Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
> Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
> single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
> the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
> experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
> its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
> net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
> this would be the perfect setting for our games.
>
> Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
> citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
> unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many
months
> ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many
AW
> citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
> private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
> This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
> NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like.
It
> must stop!
>
> The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
> believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
> prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from
which
> to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone
who
> has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
>
>
>
> But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
> as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does
not
> have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do
so.
> It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
> detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
> Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
> those which you would like to become involved.
>
> Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to
die,
> just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which
crosses
> you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
>
> If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party,
ignore,
> block, or don't read their posts.
>
>
> We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
> intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
> better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW.
We
> will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
> businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more
fun
> interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new
citizen'
> s group
>
> It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
> constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
> better place if more citizens would work together for the common good.
It's
> up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue
to
> respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but
hopefully
> this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
> yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
> this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just
ask
> yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
>
>
> Thank You, The Game Staff.
>
>
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW
citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
|
Apr 8, 2003, 5:24pm
nice SWE ya know your not such a bad guy after all....:) don't worry i won't tell anyone...:)
[View Quote]"swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in message news:3e9301be at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> hey, would just like to apologise about me reaction before. shouldnt have
> judged something i wasnt sure about. and as a token of my appology, i'd like
> to offer you help if you ever need any objects or textures made.
> -SWE
>
> "the game master" <the_game at sprynet.com> wrote in message
> news:3e920eda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> new
> serious,
> months
> AW
> It
> which
> who
> not
> so.
> die,
> crosses
> ignore,
> We
> fun
> citizen'
> It's
> to
> hopefully
> ask
> citizens
>
>
|
Apr 9, 2003, 7:07pm
Yeah, SWE's pretty cool most of the time. :)
Chris
[View Quote]"binarybud" <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> wrote in message
news:3e9313c2 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> nice SWE ya know your not such a bad guy after all....:) don't
worry i won't tell anyone...:)
>
>
> "swe" <swe at swe-e.com> wrote in message
news:3e9301be at server1.Activeworlds.com...
have
like
distasteful
Those
citizens
standing
gang
not
The
just a
behind
because of
the
thought
many
many
little
way.
AW
like.
to
won a
anyone
sponsors.
endeavors
does
do
also
101:
to
to
more
offering
AW.
more
more
a
continue
remember
just
members to
create
tourists.
and
in.
and
citizen
>
>
|
Apr 9, 2003, 7:12pm
Yes, to Goober King you listen, hmm!
He hit it on the head. The people who flame you and your staff,
thegamemaster, are more than not, people (mostly kids) who don't know what
they're talking about. I would say they're all self-important, but that
would be generalizing.
That said, I got a DVD from you guys and haven't had any mysterious charges
on my credit card or extra spam sent to my address from you. The company
that owns TheGame world is real, even if it is categorized as a small
business and not a corporation. Really guys, you should know to trust small
businesses more than corporations. I can think of plenty of evil
corporations... like... Microsoft. ;) TheGame is real. You have nothing
to fear from them.
Chris
Conspiracy is a delicate fruit. 'Tis sweet, yet spoils quickly. Ohh! I
like that. *writes it down* :P
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3E92B9CE.8070103 at utn.cjb.net...
> As many other people have discovered before you, Lesson One for success
> in AW is to ignore the detractors, because most of them don't know what
> their talking about. Do what you think is right, and those who
> appreciate your efforts will eventually outnumber those who don't.
>
> That being said, I think I can explain *why* some people choose to blast
> The Game. For starters, as you mentioned, most don't have any experience
> with The Game, having never played or, in some cases, even visited the
> world. I guess they just fear the unknown and decide to flame instead of
> investigate. After all, it's much easier to fire off a vicious NG post,
> than actually check out that which you're replying to (that takes WORK!
:P).
>
> Secondly, there is a general distaste for advertisements in the NG,
> something I can somewhat sympathize with. It becomes more apparent when
> you post them more often. I guess the flamers feel like you're invading
> "their" space with what they consider as "spam". Unfortunately, until
> AWI institutes an "announcement" NG, people are going to have to get
> used to people using the NG to advertise, since so many people read it.
>
> The third reason is something that Goddess Innie demonstrated so well,
> and that is that some people are also suspicious of The Game because it
> involves real life elements, like real prizes and the requirement of
> real contact information. Since the only prizes they've come in contact
> with in AW are citizenship extensions, worlds, and the like, the idea of
> real prizes seems a bit too good to be true. And, of course, there is
> the ever-present suspicion of having to hand out your personal
> information to a relative stranger. Perhaps if you took the time to
> explain how The Game works, you might be able to ease some of their fears.
>
> But, in the end, the main thing is to simply ignore the flamers in here,
> since those aren't the people you are trying to reach anyway. Your real
> audience will be the ones who read the message and visit the world, not
> the ones who bother to reply with derision and contempt.
>
> the game master wrote:
distasteful
new
serious,
citizens
standing
The
a
behind
of
the
thought
months
many AW
little
way.
AW
like. It
to
a
which
who
sponsors.
endeavors
not
so.
die,
crosses
ignore,
offering
AW. We
fun
citizen'
more
It's
to
hopefully
remember
ask
to
citizens
tourists.
citizen
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> Detracting the detractors
> gooberking at utn.cjb.net
>
|
Apr 10, 2003, 3:41am
See, once again.....not getting an answer from them.
Oh well.
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3E92B9CE.8070103 at utn.cjb.net...
> As many other people have discovered before you, Lesson One for success
> in AW is to ignore the detractors, because most of them don't know what
> their talking about. Do what you think is right, and those who
> appreciate your efforts will eventually outnumber those who don't.
>
> That being said, I think I can explain *why* some people choose to blast
> The Game. For starters, as you mentioned, most don't have any experience
> with The Game, having never played or, in some cases, even visited the
> world. I guess they just fear the unknown and decide to flame instead of
> investigate. After all, it's much easier to fire off a vicious NG post,
> than actually check out that which you're replying to (that takes WORK!
:P).
>
> Secondly, there is a general distaste for advertisements in the NG,
> something I can somewhat sympathize with. It becomes more apparent when
> you post them more often. I guess the flamers feel like you're invading
> "their" space with what they consider as "spam". Unfortunately, until
> AWI institutes an "announcement" NG, people are going to have to get
> used to people using the NG to advertise, since so many people read it.
>
> The third reason is something that Goddess Innie demonstrated so well,
> and that is that some people are also suspicious of The Game because it
> involves real life elements, like real prizes and the requirement of
> real contact information. Since the only prizes they've come in contact
> with in AW are citizenship extensions, worlds, and the like, the idea of
> real prizes seems a bit too good to be true. And, of course, there is
> the ever-present suspicion of having to hand out your personal
> information to a relative stranger. Perhaps if you took the time to
> explain how The Game works, you might be able to ease some of their fears.
>
> But, in the end, the main thing is to simply ignore the flamers in here,
> since those aren't the people you are trying to reach anyway. Your real
> audience will be the ones who read the message and visit the world, not
> the ones who bother to reply with derision and contempt.
>
> the game master wrote:
distasteful
new
serious,
citizens
standing
The
a
behind
of
the
thought
months
many AW
little
way.
AW
like. It
to
a
which
who
sponsors.
endeavors
not
so.
die,
crosses
ignore,
offering
AW. We
fun
citizen'
more
It's
to
hopefully
remember
ask
to
citizens
tourists.
citizen
>
>
> --
> Goober King
> Detracting the detractors
> gooberking at utn.cjb.net
>
|
Apr 10, 2003, 10:22am
Well, according to The Game Master, it's all explained in The-Game world
and on their website: http://www.dashenterprisesinc.com/thegame
Perhaps you'll find your answers there.
[View Quote]goddess innie wrote:
> See, once again.....not getting an answer from them.
>
> Oh well.
>
> "goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
> news:3E92B9CE.8070103 at utn.cjb.net...
>
>
> :P).
>
> distasteful
>
> new
>
> serious,
>
> citizens
>
> standing
>
> The
>
> a
>
> behind
>
> of
>
> the
>
> thought
>
> months
>
> many AW
>
> little
>
> way.
>
> AW
>
> like. It
>
> to
>
> a
>
> which
>
> who
>
> sponsors.
>
> endeavors
>
> not
>
> so.
>
> die,
>
> crosses
>
> ignore,
>
> offering
>
> AW. We
>
> fun
>
> citizen'
>
> more
>
> It's
>
> to
>
> hopefully
>
> remember
>
> ask
>
> to
>
> citizens
>
> tourists.
>
> citizen
>
|
--
Goober King
Seek and ye shall find
gooberking at utn.cjb.net
Apr 11, 2003, 5:22pm
Not meaning to criticise or cause trouble or anything the game master but, I
was just in The Game Wrold to check it out for the first time. I see that
the games are on the web so you have to open the web from your world to
play? At least that's what I saw on signs at the entrance. Just wanted you
to know, that a whole lot of people in AW are on dial up and if they are
anything like me, if they click on the sign to open the web the computer
will lock up.
Your GZ is way to FULL. Spread it out so people will have better
performance in your world. All the signs and objects loaded up in one place
at your GZ is dragging me. And on this computer that isn't easy to make
happen even with dial up.
My computer was makeing so much noise while in there I had to come out. So,
I didn't get a chance to see if there were games in the actual world. Are
there games in the world, or are they all on the net?
Imagine
[View Quote]"the game master" <the_game at sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:3e920eda at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Although we at The Game do realize that this post will in some ways
> encourage regular nuisance posters to hold true to your often distasteful
> remarks, we feel it is necessary to post it anyhow.
>
>
> Active Worlds members are not the only ones who read these posts. Those
new
> to AW do as well. So when you respond to posts (in which you have no
> legitimate interest) in a demeaning or derogatory manner, you give new
> readers the impression that these groups are not at all to be taken
serious,
> and essentially make all posts devoid of seriousness. For those citizens
> who post and are attacked by senseless responses it is not unlike standing
> on a public subway platform waiting for a train while several local gang
> members harass and demean you. They act as though YOU not they, do not
> belong there.
>
>
> Now, we at The Game (and we say WE because there is a staff which run The
> Game and other interests here...Not as some would believe it to be just a
> single individual as with most AW sites) have been working closely behind
> the scenes with some members of the AW admin to improve the overall
> experience of AW for its citizens and newcomers. We came to AW because of
> its unique approach to the internet. There are few 3D environments on the
> net and fewer which boast AW's savvy and attention to detail. We thought
> this would be the perfect setting for our games.
>
> Thus far, we have been warmly welcomed by AW admin, yet not so with many
> citizens. Even before one of our staff took it upon herself to post
> unsolicited ads in different worlds and so on (which took place many
months
> ago and never since) against our orders (and is no longer on staff), many
AW
> citizens have done little more than act as though AW was their own little
> private playground; lashing out at anyone who even breathed the wrong way.
> This is exactly the way many of the response posters in this and other AW
> NGs act toward those they, for whatever reasons, have chosen not to like.
It
> must stop!
>
> The Game itself IS for real. It matters not whether or not YOU choose to
> believe our claims of granting prizes. Unless you have never played, won a
> prize, and then been denied that prize by us, you have no insight from
which
> to draw any derogative conclusions. In fact we have never denied anyone
who
> has won a prize said prize winning. Prizes are paid for by our sponsors.
>
>
>
> But beyond The Game and its posts, or how you may feel about our endeavors
> as a whole, there is absolutely no excuse or reason for anyone who does
not
> have a legitimate reason to post a response to another's posting, to do
so.
> It not only makes that individual responder appear ignorant, but it also
> detracts from the original poster's intentions. News group educate 101:
> Read postings from others in a group that interests you, and respond to
> those which you would like to become involved.
>
> Sitting on the groups, like some sort of vulture waiting for someone to
die,
> just so you can respond in a nonsensical manner to every post which
crosses
> you in some way is childish and IS a violation of NG conduct.
>
> If you have a problem with a post or all posts from a certain party,
ignore,
> block, or don't read their posts.
>
>
> We will continue to work hard to make AW a better place by creating more
> intriguing games, encouraging citizen and tourist participation, offering
> better and better prizes, and help promote other worlds and builds in AW.
We
> will also continue our offline efforts to bring more individuals and
> businesses into AW as well (which will in turn help AW admin create more
fun
> interactive elements for all of us). We are currently forming a new
citizen'
> s group
>
> It would be great if ALL citizens would spend their time in AW being more
> constructive and less destructive. If you think about it, AW could be a
> better place if more citizens would work together for the common good.
It's
> up to you. We know than many of you who are very childish will continue
to
> respond to posts in inappropriate ways (even this post here), but
hopefully
> this message will have changed the minds of others. These NGs are not
> yours. They belong to ALL AW citizens and visitors. Just try to remember
> this. Before you criticize The Game or anyone else who posts here, just
ask
> yourself one thing. What am I doing to improve Active Worlds?
>
>
> Thank You, The Game Staff.
>
>
> PS: We are forming a new AW citizen's group tentatively called the AW
> Citizen's Action Council (AWCAC), and are looking for volunteer members to
> get involved.
>
> Essentially the council will meet each week to discuss, plan and create
> different community projects, games and events aimed at uniting AW
citizens
> in an effort to make AW a better experience for all citizens and tourists.
> The Game is ready willing and able to donate its game points system and
> real-world prizes to many of the projects, games and events under the
> management of AWCAC; making them more exciting attractive to engage in.
> Meetings will be held in the-game world at an agreeable time and day and
> will be open only to AWCAC members. Please show your support as a citizen
> and get involved in this worth while group. Contact us if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
|
|
