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Jan 22, 2003, 5:00pm

I am posting this to all to say as of 1/22/03 I became aware that my world
plus all its citizenships were fraudulantly renewed by FeNiX with a stolen
credit card. this resulted in the total loss of A!!CT and my attached
citizenship. Because of this my citizenship is marked FRAUD, I am presently
using another cit to post this to say I have been victumized by by what I
thought was a caring concerned person. In the process I lost everything,
A!!CT is gone all its citizenships is gone, all its builds are gone.
With post war preperations against Iraq financial situations in the USA are
bad and being that I did not expect this to happen to A!!CT, I can not renew
it now....or ever.
I still own 6 other legal worlds, but A!!CT is gone forever, because I
trusted someone who appeared honest and sincere with my investment.
I will probably get my citizenship back at 6.95 a month, but there is no
wayat this time with world situations as they are for me to renew A!!CT as a
P-130 world.
My appologies to all.
MrBruce former A!!CT owner.

Jan 22, 2003, 5:20pm

Im sorry to hear that Mr Bruce,
A warning to ALL world owners, never accept 'free' renewals of worlds,
citizenships, and universes, solservers etc unless you know the person
extending them in Real Life. For greater security you must also instruct
Active Worlds Inc to dissvalidate anyone extending your accounts and report
it immidiatly to you.

- Mark

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Jan 22, 2003, 5:21pm

Wow, didn't see that one coming. (*cough*)
$1000's of dollars donated for a world that wasn't even his. Sounded kinda
fishy from the start.

Sorry to hear, Bruce. :-\ Hope everything gets better!
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http://www.swcity.net
http://forum.swcity.net

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Jan 22, 2003, 5:40pm

Ouch! Hope you can get it back sometime. Just be careful with renewing.

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Jan 22, 2003, 6:20pm

Have you contacted AWI - its technically not your fault. Even if you are
not renewing the world you could still get that FRAUD lable off yur back i
would presume.

Jan 22, 2003, 6:38pm

Hmm yes, I think that the FRAUD is a bit of stupidty on AWIs part... its
exactly the same as disclosing accounting information of 1 customer to other
customers as far as I can tell. Which is breaking the law...

- Mark

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Jan 22, 2003, 6:44pm

Being that FeNiX lives in Canada, this is taking forever to resolve, I have
been in contact with AW since my world A!!CT was shut down and showed as
"EXPIRED" 12/15/2002, it should have said 12/15/2003. then I find out my cit
is exspired as well as all my cits attached to A!!CT world and the worst is
to find out that my name says MrBruce FRAUD on everyones contact list. Its
been 3 hours and AW tells me they are still resolving this problem with
authorities in Canada.
It appears FeNiX (MrMike) used his Mom's credit card to access A!!CT's renew
world page and renewed A!!CT, now I am looked upon as a theif and a FRAUD
and I am very PISSED off at the fact that AW did this to me, when I am
infact a VICTUM here!!!!!
Anyone can go to the renew world url and type any world name and renew
anyones world. So as I see it if and when I finally talk with someone at AW
they will say either pay up the $1,319.00 or kiss A!!CT goodbye.
I may have been able to pay that money in Before A!!CT's December 15th 2002
renewal deadline back then, but now there is no way I can afford it now,
plus I paid $420 since its renewal to exspand it to a P-130, the user limit
of 150 was donated by AW, the paid for limit was 30 users. So that anwers
the question of why i paid for a 150 user limit rather than exspanding the
build limit.
Anyways A!!CT is gone and i seriously think parents should be held
accountable for their kids mistakes.
FeNiX's Mom has a right to be upset, but not so upset to have her kid of 15
arrested and a world owner like me at a total loss!
Luckily for me i still have 6 worlds left that I paid for out my own credit
card.
MrBruce
MrBruce.
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Jan 22, 2003, 7:52pm

I agree tax, i was suspicious from the beginning ESPECIALLY because he is
15.

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"Brock - This dude with a 'tude isn't afraid to speak his mind,
especially when it concerns others in his own age range. In other words,
the perfect NG candidate."
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Jan 22, 2003, 8:24pm

[View Quote] Argh! Really?...

Although, I only ever visited that world once or twice. It apparently was
one of ActiveWorld's more popular worlds and apparently it became a dear
home to many. Sorry to hear about this. :o(


> A!!CT is gone all its citizenships is gone, all its builds are gone.

Anyway I think I've still got cached parts of it from January 17th(?) still
hanging around in my back ups. However I'm sure that those who are regulars
will probably have a more recent and full cache that can be extracted using
a tool. (I can't remember where I saw that post now, probably was in the
worldbuilders group)


> With post war preperations against Iraq financial situations in the USA
are
> bad and being that I did not expect this to happen to A!!CT, I can not
renew
> it now....or ever.

hmmm... Economic rainy day... Up coming 21st Century depression?


> I still own 6 other legal worlds, but A!!CT is gone forever, because I
> trusted someone who appeared honest and sincere with my investment.
> I will probably get my citizenship back at 6.95 a month, but there is no
> wayat this time with world situations as they are for me to renew A!!CT as
a
> P-130 world.
> My appologies to all.

Jan 22, 2003, 10:03pm

I did the best I could do, I took what money I put into A!!CT in its P-130
exspansion and renewed it sorry to say its only a P-75 for now and
everything that was built past 75 to 130 is presently in limbo, or at least
until it can be exspanded back to a P-130.
Although I know FeNiX meant well by what he did and yes I realize he is a
kid, which in my own heart I can forgive him, I hope those whose builds are
presently in limbo feel the same way.
I got my cit back and a few others, and took over payment on a few others
that were attached to the world.
Let this be a lesson to the rest of you to be careful.
MrBruce.
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Jan 23, 2003, 1:19pm

MrBruce,

Sorry for your troubles. I'm surprised. AW Comp. seemed so greatful for
your spirit of community, I think it was quoted to me that you were thanked
every day. (If that wasn't the quote, it was something very similar.)
Need they be reminded of this? This needs to be resolved so that A!!CT is
back into your hands.

Yanst
ayansta at hotmail.com

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Jan 23, 2003, 6:28pm

Glad to hear it all seems to have blown over anyway - its a shame that a
renewal of a world had to happen this way - but at least its still there
(even if only a shadow of its former self).

FeNiX will have meant well, and he obviously loves your world - if you
havent actually talked with him it might be an idea, i'm sure there are
things you both want to say.

Jan 24, 2003, 6:43pm

Who's fifteen?

Chris
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Jan 24, 2003, 6:48pm

Well if a world is fraudulently renewed they have to take it offline. They
did save his world data after all. :) AWI nor MrBruce is the bad guy here.

Chris

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