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Nov 23, 2002, 12:51am

Ok, sure its ok to advertise once or twice in the newsgroups under
Community, but lets not keep doing it over and over again...

The person that best fits with this is The Game Master, we never see him in
AW and never see him post anything BUT adverrtisement!

STOP HIM!

Nov 23, 2002, 12:53am

Filter him I suppose. I guess I'm ok as long as he doesn't justify why he keeps
posting with this "don't reply" stuff.

--Bowen--

Nov 23, 2002, 2:23am

Probably to avoid a dozen posts turning into a few hundred posts, or something to that effect... but I'm only guessing.

TechnoZeus

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Nov 23, 2002, 5:15am

Yeah... I have to agree with equin0x here. While I feel that the community
newsgroup *should* be a place to advertise your events, it was not meant as
an advertising vehicle. There must be a balance. And The Game Master is
taking advantage of this, perhaps unconsciously, and it is beginning to get
on our nerves. Please Game Master, don't advertise "as much".

SW Chris


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Nov 23, 2002, 10:49am

....or at least participate in the newsgroup in some other way, so as not to apear so much as an outsider dropping by only to take advantage of the fact that there are people here. Just a thought.

TechnoZeus

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Nov 23, 2002, 1:44pm

Well I think there is a case for Uncle Enzo to create a new newsgroup for
all those world owners that wish to advertise their events.

Then all can advertise to their hearts content their activities.



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Nov 23, 2002, 2:16pm

Yup, and we can all make sure we dont subscribe to it ^_^.;)

- Mark
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Nov 23, 2002, 2:40pm

I said this and everyone set into me! :P

- Mark
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Nov 23, 2002, 4:10pm

Actually, something on that order may not be such a bad idea... but there are issues I can think of right now that I'm absolutely certain people would complain loudly and persistantly about if he did.

TechnoZeus

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Nov 23, 2002, 7:00pm

I don't think Newsgroup advertising works too well, people who read them
either ignore them or forget most of the time.

My advise to The Game Master would be, get some more people into your world,
maybe by going to GZs and telling them about it. Make sure they like it,
and you might have a few regulars on your hands. Advertise your events on
your world IO and people are sure to come to them. Then other people who
don't visit the world will see the high user count and join.

I think thats the best way of doing any event, in a new world or old. I
speak from experience having done a couple of AWTeen events myself.

The bottom line is - NG advertisement isn't very effective and it can be
annoying. Try some other ways of advertising and see were they get you.

Nov 23, 2002, 7:02pm

I personally hate it when people do this, usually tell em to p_ss off if they keep doing it repeatedly...

- Mark

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Nov 23, 2002, 7:05pm

well maybe it isn't a great thing to go to GZs and beg people to come to
your world, but asking can't hurt.

Nov 23, 2002, 7:20pm

Yes, well, that was before he started posting something every few days. You
also wanted him to stop completely, if I understand correctly. :P

Chris

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Nov 23, 2002, 7:22pm

Noo, I wanted him to shut up for a while and give it a rest, and not to post about cash / material prizes... and I posted it 1 day before this 1! :P)

- Mark
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Nov 23, 2002, 8:02pm

But if the AW Events Committee had it's own AW newsgroup, people could post events there for everyone to see as well as requests for help with events, and they would be much more likely to get positive results than in any of the existing newsgroups.

TechnoZeus

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Nov 23, 2002, 8:03pm

I agree. But i still don't think it would be very effective. More than it
is now, but still not very effective.

Nov 23, 2002, 8:14pm

Well, sometimes when you try to change something the resulting chain of events can bring about the exact opposite of what you had intended. For example in this case you went about trying to reduce the amount of something that was bothering you by basically attacking the person who was doing it. Even people who agreed with your motives may have been put off by your choice of methods (theoretically, of course) and what ended up happening is a lot of people spoke up and said that what he was doing wasn't all that bad. Well, it's easy to see how that could be taken as an invitation to do lots more of it, or at least as an indication that they will be defended if anyone attacks them for doing it. Basically, by attacking somebody publicly for doing something that you personally felt was wrong, you may have removed the one barrier that was probably keeping it to a minimum.

I would bring up another case in point, but doing so would require explicit mention of a subject which I have agreed not to bring up in this newsgroup... so suffice it to say, this isn't the only recent case such a chain of events. It happens.

TechnoZeus

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Nov 23, 2002, 10:50pm

Do you guys realize that starting posts to stop the advertisements, every
time there is one, is just as bad, actually worse than advertising
themselves. Just live with it, any posts by the game master, just filter,
this was a completely useless thread...

Will they ever learn?
-Mod
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Nov 23, 2002, 11:10pm

Yeah but we are just showing that there is opistion for it when Flagg investigates.
- Me
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Nov 24, 2002, 6:12am

And then there are those that show oposition to long drawn-out useless shows of oposition :)

TechnoZeus

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Nov 25, 2002, 10:01am

does anyone even goto "The-game" lol?

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