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That's it.... (Community)
That's it.... // Community
Jan 8, 2002, 12:25am
If awcom STILL can't realize their obviusly moronic decisions aren't helping
them at all, but in fact are doing just the opposite, by *NOW* then i
question their real intentions. I keep hearing all these things about AW
closing down universe (i know there cracked but still, they never noticed
until they started getting all of their users) and making free citezinship
universe pay is pathetic. If they actually think people are still going to
keep buying universes their crazy. I really think they need to use their
brain and see the damage they are doing. Not only have a lot of my favorite
worlds emptied with signs to sign petitions, a lot of people are already
planning on the trip our for when AW starts charging them.
It's all really sickening to watch AW end like this (IF it does). Now we
know just what kind of business owners they are, even though some of us have
seen it for a long time. If they don't shape up by the time my cit expires,
not to mention almost everyone else in aw who is going to leave as soon as
their cit expires (and im not kidding either), then they will instantly lose
all the money we've couldve payed them if they made a smarter choice. I
mean, they could at least put it down to $5 a month or something, an MMORPG
is that much and that has FAR more entertaining things to do then this and i
would glady choose one fo those overt his, then a lot more people woudl stay
(even me probably).
So thats what i have to say. If they dont change by next January when my cit
expires (im going to pay for star wars galaxies in the fall and woudl rather
pay for that then aw) then i'm gone, even though i would like to stay. I'm
even debating wether to pay the $40 in March to renew my world (A'Dude)
becuase of this.
-Cozmo
Jan 8, 2002, 1:14pm
Hold on a second. It's most likely that AW is closing down universes that
are cracked, but they've always been doing that - that's nothing new. It's
not as if these people paid for these universes.
But as to making free citizenship universes paying, AW doesn't have any
legal right to do that, unless there is some fine print somewhere that
states that "all universes purchased from Activeworlds Corp must charge for
citizenships" in the universe license agreement. Unless the agreement was
amended, then I don't see how this rumor can be true. Most likely, a
universe owner decided that they could make some money and started charging
for citizenships by themself. Then, a user who was disgruntled started
blaming AW for making them charge, and thus we have the current rumors :)
[View Quote]"cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
news:3c3a5896 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> If awcom STILL can't realize their obviusly moronic decisions aren't
helping
> them at all, but in fact are doing just the opposite, by *NOW* then i
> question their real intentions. I keep hearing all these things about AW
> closing down universe (i know there cracked but still, they never noticed
> until they started getting all of their users) and making free citezinship
> universe pay is pathetic. If they actually think people are still going to
> keep buying universes their crazy. I really think they need to use their
> brain and see the damage they are doing. Not only have a lot of my
favorite
> worlds emptied with signs to sign petitions, a lot of people are already
> planning on the trip our for when AW starts charging them.
>
> It's all really sickening to watch AW end like this (IF it does). Now we
> know just what kind of business owners they are, even though some of us
have
> seen it for a long time. If they don't shape up by the time my cit
expires,
> not to mention almost everyone else in aw who is going to leave as soon as
> their cit expires (and im not kidding either), then they will instantly
lose
> all the money we've couldve payed them if they made a smarter choice. I
> mean, they could at least put it down to $5 a month or something, an
MMORPG
> is that much and that has FAR more entertaining things to do then this and
i
> would glady choose one fo those overt his, then a lot more people woudl
stay
> (even me probably).
>
> So thats what i have to say. If they dont change by next January when my
cit
> expires (im going to pay for star wars galaxies in the fall and woudl
rather
> pay for that then aw) then i'm gone, even though i would like to stay. I'm
> even debating wether to pay the $40 in March to renew my world (A'Dude)
> becuase of this.
>
> -Cozmo
>
>
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Jan 8, 2002, 3:44pm
they can't do no nothing about the cracked ones, the point of them is that
they don't go looking for lisences...
KAH
[View Quote]"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3c3b0cd9$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hold on a second. It's most likely that AW is closing down universes that
> are cracked, but they've always been doing that - that's nothing new.
It's
> not as if these people paid for these universes.
>
> But as to making free citizenship universes paying, AW doesn't have any
> legal right to do that, unless there is some fine print somewhere that
> states that "all universes purchased from Activeworlds Corp must charge
for
> citizenships" in the universe license agreement. Unless the agreement was
> amended, then I don't see how this rumor can be true. Most likely, a
> universe owner decided that they could make some money and started
charging
> for citizenships by themself. Then, a user who was disgruntled started
> blaming AW for making them charge, and thus we have the current rumors :)
>
> "cozmo" <b.nolan2 at verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:3c3a5896 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> helping
noticed
citezinship
to
their
> favorite
> have
> expires,
as
> lose
> MMORPG
and
> i
> stay
> cit
> rather
I'm
>
>
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Jan 8, 2002, 5:35pm
DLP is NOT cracked it is a purchased universe hosted on AWCom servers.
and because AWCom did what they did in shutting them down for giving out
free cits they are considering move the universe to a different host to get
away from AWcom.
If you read the AW product web pages it says:
Designed for the business that requires multiple stand-alone Worlds separate
from the Active Worlds Universe of Worlds. This product gives to the
administrator full configuration control over the Worlds.
Meaning you, the owner, control the universe and how it is run and you own
policies. If you choose to give away free cits then it is your right. No
where on the web pages do I see anything about it being licensed and that it
must be run according to AWCom policies.
AWCom had no right to shut them down or dictate policy to them.
Paul
[View Quote]"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3c3b0cd9$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Hold on a second. It's most likely that AW is closing down universes that
> are cracked, but they've always been doing that - that's nothing new.
It's
> not as if these people paid for these universes.
>
> But as to making free citizenship universes paying, AW doesn't have any
> legal right to do that, unless there is some fine print somewhere that
> states that "all universes purchased from Activeworlds Corp must charge
for
> citizenships" in the universe license agreement. Unless the agreement was
> amended, then I don't see how this rumor can be true. Most likely, a
> universe owner decided that they could make some money and started
charging
> for citizenships by themself. Then, a user who was disgruntled started
> blaming AW for making them charge, and thus we have the current rumors :)
>
<snip>
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Jan 8, 2002, 5:46pm
Again, this is probably just a rumor. Do you know for sure that it was AW
that forced Dreamland park to stop giving away free citizenships?
If not, then let's wait for the official word :)
[View Quote]"paul" <p-barrow at NOSPAMhome.com> wrote in message
news:3c3b49fb$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> DLP is NOT cracked it is a purchased universe hosted on AWCom servers.
> and because AWCom did what they did in shutting them down for giving out
> free cits they are considering move the universe to a different host to
get
> away from AWcom.
> If you read the AW product web pages it says:
>
> Designed for the business that requires multiple stand-alone Worlds
separate
> from the Active Worlds Universe of Worlds. This product gives to the
> administrator full configuration control over the Worlds.
>
> Meaning you, the owner, control the universe and how it is run and you own
> policies. If you choose to give away free cits then it is your right. No
> where on the web pages do I see anything about it being licensed and that
it
> must be run according to AWCom policies.
>
> AWCom had no right to shut them down or dictate policy to them.
>
> Paul
>
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c3b0cd9$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
that
> It's
> for
was
> charging
:)
> <snip>
>
>
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Jan 8, 2002, 6:23pm
if you read it more carefully you'd know i didn't call DLP cracked. i just
refered to both cracked unis and the uni that aw made them pay (you) not as
the same thing
[View Quote]"paul" <p-barrow at NOSPAMhome.com> wrote in message
news:3c3b49fb$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> DLP is NOT cracked it is a purchased universe hosted on AWCom servers.
> and because AWCom did what they did in shutting them down for giving out
> free cits they are considering move the universe to a different host to
get
> away from AWcom.
> If you read the AW product web pages it says:
>
> Designed for the business that requires multiple stand-alone Worlds
separate
> from the Active Worlds Universe of Worlds. This product gives to the
> administrator full configuration control over the Worlds.
>
> Meaning you, the owner, control the universe and how it is run and you own
> policies. If you choose to give away free cits then it is your right. No
> where on the web pages do I see anything about it being licensed and that
it
> must be run according to AWCom policies.
>
> AWCom had no right to shut them down or dictate policy to them.
>
> Paul
>
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c3b0cd9$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
that
> It's
> for
was
> charging
:)
> <snip>
>
>
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Jan 8, 2002, 7:22pm
yes we do know for sure! lol, i thought u where part of abn lol,dont u ever
watch it? well read this: http://24.52.45.155:81/dreamland.html
SWE
[View Quote]"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3c3b4c95$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Again, this is probably just a rumor. Do you know for sure that it was AW
> that forced Dreamland park to stop giving away free citizenships?
>
> If not, then let's wait for the official word :)
>
> "paul" <p-barrow at NOSPAMhome.com> wrote in message
> news:3c3b49fb$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> get
> separate
own
No
that
> it
> that
any
charge
> was
started
> :)
>
>
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Jan 8, 2002, 8:42pm
All that is is a chat log. Not to put anyone down, but it could have been
modified or some of the people involved couldn't have had the best
information.
I won't believe these rumors until someone from AW confirms them.
On another note, I wonder if Protagonist has heard about the policy change
in the software he started? Someone should go to askearth.com and post a
question, lol
[View Quote]"swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3c3b6311 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> yes we do know for sure! lol, i thought u where part of abn lol,dont u
ever
> watch it? well read this: http://24.52.45.155:81/dreamland.html
>
> SWE
>
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c3b4c95$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
AW
servers.
out
to
> own
> No
> that
universes
new.
> any
that
> charge
agreement
a
> started
rumors
>
>
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Jan 9, 2002, 12:14am
I got a free cit from dreamland and it was taken away! *angry!*
[View Quote]"brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
news:3c3b75cb$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> All that is is a chat log. Not to put anyone down, but it could have been
> modified or some of the people involved couldn't have had the best
> information.
>
> I won't believe these rumors until someone from AW confirms them.
>
> On another note, I wonder if Protagonist has heard about the policy change
> in the software he started? Someone should go to askearth.com and post a
> question, lol
>
> "swe" <m_swehli at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3c3b6311 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> ever
was
> AW
> servers.
> out
> to
you
right.
> universes
> new.
have
> that
> agreement
likely,
> a
> rumors
>
>
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Jan 9, 2002, 12:15am
Also, according to ABN, it said that DP was only giving free cits for that
weekend.
[View Quote]"blasto" <GovDion at subdimension.com> wrote in message
news:3c3ba788$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I got a free cit from dreamland and it was taken away! *angry!*
> "brant" <awteen at shoemakervillage.org> wrote in message
> news:3c3b75cb$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
been
change
a
> was
giving
host
Worlds
the
> you
> right.
and
> have
somewhere
> likely,
started
>
>
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