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ryan jacob // User Search
ryan jacob // User Search
Jan 16, 2003, 2:45am
Interesting that you got spammed with the link too, lol
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"jstone2004" <j at jlife.net> wrote in message
news:3e26381e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I cannot count the amount of grams I got of that log, lol. Thankfully, I
> make it a habit to not look at links in grams if someone just randomly
sends
> me a link, as I hate gram-spam. So, if any of ya'll out there who have me
on
> your contact list see this... remember, J hates gram-spam and generally
> deletes it when he gets it *yeah you know how you are :)*
>
> J
>
> "ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e2635da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> to
the
> think
ears.
> (syntax
online
> to
compassion -
> situation
here
> will
Faye's
or
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>
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Jan 16, 2003, 10:13am
Doesn't matter if they are SW City staff or not. Someone had to tell them
the link and they (possibly one or more person) decided to spread it. Fact
is, one of the people the log was originally intended for decided to give
the link out. Yep, I'm careful when I speak or write.
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"syntax" <syn at swcity.net> wrote in message
news:3e264323 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Before you speak, you better check the background on those people that
sent
> the telegrams and see if they are even SW City staff members, Ryan.
> www.swcity.net ... look under the Staff section. Perhaps YOU should be
> careful what you say or write...
> --
> - Syntax -
> http://www.swcity.net
> http://forum.swcity.net
>
> "ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e2635da at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> to
the
> think
ears.
>
>
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Jan 19, 2003, 2:03pm
I seriously think E N Z O or whoever is moderating now should have deleted
these threads, but obviously that hasn't been done...
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"elyk" <kfoerst at sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3e2a4420 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I dont even think that this should have even got so far as to be posted
> here!! Seriously you all WAKE UP! Quit posting your quarrels in the NG's.
> They make me and hundreds of others sick! Who cares what you all said to
> each other! It doesnt have to be brought here. As for Syntax and Chris
> Cat.....GROW UP!!! Quit trying to start trouble with ppl whom you know
are
> going to cave in and get upset!!!!
> "syntax" <syn at swcity.net> wrote in message
> news:3e24eb5f at server1.Activeworlds.com...
people
> their
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Jan 19, 2003, 7:15pm
Ah, cool lol
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3e2b104b at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> E N Z O is too busy getting newAW to work and planning to assasinate
whoever
> runs 'There'
>
> - Mark
>
> "ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e2acc5e$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
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Jan 16, 2003, 2:09am
Most of AW doesn't care either way. Seiya has decided to bring the argument
to a public forum - but apparently it doesn't matter. I agree that this is
something better kept off the newsgroups.
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"syntax" <syn at swcity.net> wrote in message
news:3e262dd4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Enough already, Seiya. Jesus.
> This is between you and me, not the whole of AW.
>
>
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Jan 19, 2003, 5:14pm
rofl!
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"bowen" <thisguyrules at 7k2.4mg.com.ANTISPAM> wrote in message
news:3e2adfe5 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3e2adb16 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
bomb
>
> No, they just mark you as "possible threats" MP5's aren't the greatest
sub-machine
> guns in the world. A real terrorist uses box-cutters since they're so
1337.
>
> --Bowen--
>
>
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Jan 18, 2003, 4:43pm
Same coming soon ad I've seen for a long time now :(
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"goober king" <gooberking at utn.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:3E28D2D0.6020408 at utn.cjb.net...
> Hey, remember us?
>
> It's been five long months since AWNews disappeared from the Internet,
> and while many people have moved on since then, I'm pleased to announce
> that AWNews is back in action!
>
> We've got new features, a new domain name, and of course, all the
> stories you missed while we were gone, and we're just getting started!
> Soon, we'll have our very own forums and a brand new site design like
> nothing you've ever seen before! Oh yea, and we've managed to preserve
> all of your old accounts, so you can log in just like old times! And, if
> you've forgotten your password, you can simply have it emailed to you!
>
> So head on over to the new AWNews at http://www.awnews.org and catch up
> on all that you missed! And stay tuned, because you never know what's
> coming next in the AW universe!
>
> P.S. There are still a couple things on the site that need tweaking, so
> please forgive our dust! :)
>
> --
> Goober King
> AWNews Editor in Chief
> gooberking at utn.cjb.net
>
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Jan 19, 2003, 3:48am
Yeah, I noticed that later on :) Thanks!
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"ananas" <vha at oct31.de> wrote in message news:3E29AF98.71AED85F at oct31.de...
> A little patience needed :)
>
> The page sends you to http://www.awnews.org/html/
> after 5 seconds.
>
>
> ryan jacob wrote:
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Jan 27, 2003, 1:51am
Well said :o)
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"lord perception" <usenetreplies at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e34a434 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> "seiya faye" <starbuilds at yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3e3471aa at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
> [...]
>
> Just skipping down to the last portion or your message here...
>
on
> a
> but
annual
>
> That's what many of AlphaWorld's builders wanted... New objects to be
added
> to AW's Object Path. But history has shown that a lot of these requests
> have been ignored.
>
> The only times I remember Objects were added to the AlphaWorld's was
> possibly some time in 2000, when Just In and TechnoZeus made some objects
> and submitted it to AWI. The second time, was after the pricing rises
(2002
> last year) , AWI dumped objects that was _Supposed_ to be destined for a
new
> Buildworld into AlphaWorld (Possibly as a knew jerk reaction to calm down
> the masses enraged by the pricing increases) . As a result, complex and
> detailed objects were dumped in with AlphaWorld's existing rudimentary
> objects which IMO did not fit in at all well.
>
> What can be done is we do what Just In and TechnoZeus did back in 2000,
> gather / make a whole lot of objects together, review them for their
> suitability and submit them to AWI asking if they will add these objects
in
> to AlphaWorld's object path.
>
> I agree we are paying quite a bit of money for a citizenship... and I feel
> the majority of AWI's build worlds alone are not really offering much in
> return.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Jan 26, 2003, 10:55pm
Instead of yelling, you should have telegrammed her and let her know to post
in the wishlist. This way she would not be embarrassed or humiliated, nor
attacked unnesscesarily. I feel we ought to practice some courtesy on the
newsgroups.
Ryan Jacob
[View Quote]"ncc 71854" <NCC-71854 at USS-Venture.Starfleet.UFP> wrote in message
news:3e347f0e at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> *presses the trigger and fires the whole magazine
>
>
> "strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3e347e2d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
>
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>
>
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Jan 28, 2003, 8:08pm
.....
Ryan Jacob
(some posts don't deserve a reply)
[View Quote]"strike rapier" <strike at rapiercom.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3e36c715 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Well said, so good infact I deleted my rather offencive post I was about
to
> make and instead I think ill make this 1 to congratulate you on this.
>
> - Mark
>
> "facter" <invurt at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e36595a at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> are
anyone
> "fired"
> that
> and
> and
thinking
here,
> actually
> have
> talking
you
be
> little
> before
>
>
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Feb 7, 2003, 2:22am
What stuff are they offering for free? I want to make sure I didn't miss any
of the free stuff ;)
Ryan
[View Quote]"technozeus" <TechnoZeus at usa.net> wrote in message
news:3e43159f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> As you stated, some people can't afford that much for a game. Well, I
would like very much to be able to try some of the new on-line games, but
wouldn't be able to reasonably afford an average boxed game that only has to
be paid for once, let along a game that you have to keep on paying for...
and Active Worlds isn't a game. If it was, I would leave it today...
because I come to Active Worlds for what I can contribute to it, not for any
entertainment value I hope to get out of it.
>
> If I want to play a game, I'll play one of the free games I've got stored
on my older computer system or one of the out-dated games I already have
paid for a long time ago back when I "could" afford it... and I haven't
played any of those in quite a while.
>
> I like video games... but to me Active Worlds is the start of something
much more important. I don't think Active Worlds Inc. is charging too much,
but I also do wish they would charge less. It's their right to set the
price they think is best, and it's very sad that so many good people can't
afford it. These are just facts. At least they do still offer "some" stuff
free, which is in my opinion rather generous of them... but I would be happy
to see more of it. :)
>
> TechnoZeus
>
> "ihnk" <awihnk5 at yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3e41cbc7$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
dont
cant
343714,347517,347619,347539,347592,348548,348500,348828,347476,347520,347633
$83.40!
active
346172
So
just
there
>
>
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Feb 9, 2003, 9:57pm
I happen to like that idea too. Very fair, and I wouldn't mind having a
choice between a regular and premium account...
Ryan
[View Quote]"facter" <invurt at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e465898 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I have to agree.
>
> This is the worst decline I have seen in my six or seven years in
> Activeworlds, even when charges were first introduced it wasnt this bad -
> and a hell of a lot of people left when they started charging money for
the
> program (even $20 a year). Only the very hardcore and dedicated remained -
> trust me, if all those people had of stayed the community would be
huge....
>
> ...but this is worse, much, much worse. AW GZ is most oftent han not now,
a
> virtual ghost town - most people go to AWten GZ or even the GATE to chat
to
> people, because there is more likelihood of people being there than at AW
> GZ...it used to be, that on weekends, there would be upwards of fifty
people
> in AW GZ at any one time..now your lucky if there are even TEN.
>
> The monthly rate is the definate cause of this. There is jsut not enough
in
> the worlds to give people satisfaction of paying $7 a month. They can go
to
> other online gaming communities for only a little more than that, and
garner
> a huge amount more satisfaction than here. They are still developing AW,
> yes, but I jsut dont believe it is being done fast enough. If, they had of
> spent all the money that they had a few years ago on actually getting a
> large group of programmers together, not jsut two or three at once max,
then
> they could be seeing a larger statisitcal mass of users now - instead,
they
> went the whole "business" route instead of the more "recreation route"
and
> they lost out. I thin that they chose too late to go the "recreation
route",
> much, much too late.
>
> In al honesty, I only go into AW now to see if anyone is on. I can count
the
> number of "new" citizens I have met in the past few motnhs on one hand. It
> used to be that I would continually meet new people, every day, and have
new
> things to do all the time.
>
> I'm afraid that the whole monthly payment thing hasnt worked out. In doing
a
> monthly payment, they didnt have enough new eatures to justify the huge
> price increase, and thus people ahve now turned away. And yes, the
> gradiation is now being seen - those whose 1 year memberships have now
> expired are not renewing like AW had hoped, and I thinkt hat even they are
> probably starting now to realise just what a negative impact that has had.
>
> There are also much fewere universe sales these days as compared to not so
> long ago.
>
> Yes, the community is in a very big decline, a decline that has been
talked
> about for years, but is now actually coming to pass. Those of us who have
> been arouind a logn time can see it, and know it, those who are new are
jsut
> used to the fact that there are not that many people around. People will
> keep coming to AW, but unless things change drastically again, then the
> community will never gain the loft heights that it once attained. Instead
of
> growing, the memberships are shrinking, and as memberships are a fair
> portion of the companies income (not as much as universes, but they are
also
> declining I presume) then they are goign to ahve to actually TAKE that
> drastic action.
>
> What they need, is a new tier - and it was something that I suggested so
> many times when I was working there. Originaly the plan was to have
> citizens, and then a Premium citizenship on top of that - the premium
would
> probably have been the monthly fee, but with special bonuses - 3D
homepages,
> access to special options and special features, access to the NewAW
building
> world. They may even stillb e planning to do this, but I wouldnt ahve the
> foggiest. Reduce actual citizenships back to a yearly fee of even $15 and
> year, implement a third tier structure with special functions at a monthly
> rate. People WILL pay it, because there are enough of a hard-core user
base
> that would go for that option. At the same time, plain citizenship fees
> would be reduced by hundreds of percentiles, even loer than originally,
and
> believe me, you would see such a large influx of users coming back.
>
> That would be my solution, and it isnt even all THAT drastic. You reduce
> normal citizenships, adda premium level....and watch everyone stream in.
I
> can see only this as the one hope they have of getting the user base back.
>
> We will wait and see. I think that this year, will show us what they
want -
> a ghost town of a community, or a real one.
>
> Heres a case in point - the old timers who are here, will remember
> Yellowstone. Once upon a time, at most parts of the day,t here would be a
> community of at least ten people int here, then up in the thirties in peak
> times. Now, its is a ghost town, I dont even think anyone hangs out inth
ere
> anymore - it is, in effect, a utterly dead community.
>
> One needs only to look at the yellowstone community example to see that
> something has gone drastically, and completely, wrong.
>
> Facter.
>
>
> "mrbruce" <A1CTWorld at aol.com> wrote in message
> news:3e42af58 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
user
> into
has
someone
of
>
>
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Mar 13, 2003, 8:28pm
A chatlog:
Ryan Jacob: they restrict discussion about the Iraq war here?
"jjfs85": hi
CaBLeCar Gal: yes thirdbob
telescope: hI
telescope: I
GK Lady Cherokee: yes Ryan
telescope: Hi
"HotDog": Hello cablecar how r u
"thirdrob": who do I call???? ;)
Ryan Jacob: *makes a note NOT to come back here again*
telescope: I want be a citizen
GK Lady Cherokee: AW gate is *G* Rating.. No
Profanity....Racial.....Sexual..... Harassment......Religous....or Debates
of any kind... We try to keep AW a family enviroment Please Have respect
Please remember we May Have Children in here
With respect to the GKs, this is the most ridiculous thing I have
heard...what draws people to AW is the debates and discussion. I agree with
the no profanity, racial, etc. but stultifying religious discussion and
debates are horrible censorships...while AW doesn't have to comply with the
US free speech amendment, this is a bit overboard in my opinion and doesn't
reflect well on new users.
I am personally offended by the restriction on religious discussion...
Mar 14, 2003, 1:09am
Out of control debates...mute is better than eject. Why can't they encourage
mute instead of banning free speech?
[View Quote]"maki" <maki at awgate.com> wrote in message
news:3e7141cf at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> carlbanks" <CarLBanks at insight.rr.com> wrote:
>
> LOL, you're 'free' to say whatever you 'want', just don't turn it abusive
> and psychotic like most 'debates' turn out to be, unless they're
controlled.
> why don't you just take your religious acts and war beliefs and cause hell
> in somewhere like awteen instead? WHY do you have, or even WANT to do this
> in the Gate anyway?!
>
> maki
>
>
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Mar 14, 2003, 2:54am
That is correct. Hence why I don't argue that AWI has to permit anyone to
talk about whatever they want - but GKs going through saying "You can't do
this" isn't exactly right and welcoming in my opinion. AWGate is the Gate to
the Universe - do we show there that we don't want people to debate topics
of interest?
I don't visit AWGate but my concern lies in the new visitors to AW...I don't
think GKs should be over dominant.
[View Quote]"shred" <shred at myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:3e715de4 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I think you misunderstand the first amendment of the Constitution. It only
states the following:
>
> "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,
or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the government for a redress of grievances."
>
> Privately owned (and internationally used, in this case) forums do not
fall under jurisdiction of the first amendment.
>
> carlbanks wrote:
>
>
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Mar 14, 2003, 4:12am
right on! :) hehehehe
[View Quote]"kellee" <kellee at my.activeworlds.com> wrote in message
news:3e717209 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Why Brock?
>
> Where is this law written? and most importantly, why?
> the point was not whether AWGate is only for Bunny Rabbits, obviously it
is,
> but where was the logic behind the decree?
>
> Forcing everyone to exist without argument is pretty unnatural aint it? To
> eject any one that holds an opinion for or against any thing and just
leave
> the entry way to AW as a plastic, sterile, garden of meaningless carrot
> recipe chatter.......*shrugs* that surely only appeals to the minority
and
> offends the majority
>
> Arguing because i can? yeah... too right i am..... i CAN, at least in
> this place, at this time.....thank goodness.
>
> "brock" <Brock at iceflare.net> wrote in message
> news:3e716e66$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Your only arguing the matter because you can, there is a time and a place
> for everything, and debate and stuff like this is simply not for a place
> like AWGate, and not a time when your in AWGate. Do it in whisper or go
> somewhere private.
>
>
>
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Mar 17, 2003, 11:24am
AWDebate is open to tourists, but what's the point of debate if nobody is in
a world?
It's not really the debate *itself* that is the problem...it's the
censorship that is unwelcoming.
[View Quote]"count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
news:3e75617b$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> One problem might be tho that tourists are not allowed into that many
> worlds. How is it with AWDebate ?
> Furthemore, to me it seems some people cannot see the difference between
and
> argument, conversation and fight.
> If one want, one can "fight" about anything. Nice weather today, sun is
> shining :) . I hate sunshine.....
>
> Drac
> binarybud <leo at realPANTStourvision.com> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3e71efee$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> software and what AW is all about.
kind.
> It disrupts. What i do not understand is why people insist on gathering
> there for their debates and harrassment of people.....then when they get
> disiplinied they scream censorship....
> that is real simple....EJECT!
> to easy to make ou comply.
not
> for you....because authority is what is needed at the gate in order for it
> to run smoothly. There are hundreds of other worlds you can do what you
> want in just leave the Gate alone.
> news:3e7105f0 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Debates
respect
> with
and
with
> the
> doesn't
>
>
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Mar 17, 2003, 11:29am
Bush has nothing to do with AW.
End of THAT conversation.
[View Quote]"the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e75cce1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> oh but then its all good , and if bush does , cant we all do that at
awgate
> ? :)
>
>
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Mar 17, 2003, 11:33am
Oops, forgot smiley at the end.
:)
[View Quote]"ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3e75cdca at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Bush has nothing to do with AW.
>
> End of THAT conversation.
>
> "the joker ss" <the_joker_ss at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e75cce1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> awgate
>
>
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Mar 18, 2003, 2:59am
Thank you!
(I will be petitioning AWI for an American Debate forum since we all seem to
want to bash the US president :)
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3e76a379 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Keep on topic!
>
> Chris
>
> "count dracula" <dracula at netsonic.fi> wrote in message
> news:3e769810 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
it
>
>
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Mar 18, 2003, 3:03am
Someone told me in AW that there was going to be a lot of flames off of my
initial post...that hasn't been the case as far as I can see.
I'm not sure when, but a few weeks ago there were a lot of flames going
about...I for one don't want to get involved in that kind of discussion.
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3e76a441 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I agree with you. But that "conflict" also wasn't a flame war. It was a
> good example of how to have a civil debate (most of the time :P) in these
> newsgroups. Nowhere do you see people tossing insults back and forth. I
> think I have to point this out because there seem to be several around who
> think that any debate that extends beyond 20 replies is automatically a
> flame war.
>
> Chris
>
> "shred" <shred at myrealbox.com> wrote in message
> news:3e769848 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> controversial political or religious debate. In a vastly international
> setting, emotions are too easily flared when conversation drifts towards
> these controversial areas.
> missed the 'American Support' threads in general.discussion and
> worldbuilders. Do you see how even an innocent posting can get out of hand
> so quickly? The conflict exampled here is escalated by the fact that the
> users of this newsgroup come from so many different places, all of whom
with
> differing opinions and views.
> debate. The rules of AWGate do not deny the right to disagree - and even
do
> not infringe upon polite, nondisrupting arguement - but state only that
> AWGate is not the proper place for *debate* (1. A discussion in which
> reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal, 2. The
> formal presentation of and opposition to a stated proposition (usually
> followed by a vote)).
Active
> Worlds software, nothing more. The efficiency of this process would be
> greatly hampered were such debates allowed in AWGate. The resulting
> confusion would be madness for new users to sort through.
it
> is,
it?
> To
> leave
carrot
minority
> and
in
>
>
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Mar 18, 2003, 3:07am
Being under censorship isn't "positive" or in any way "productive" in my
opinion. I mean, a tourist asked one simple question about Iraq and got
jumped at. There really was no debate or any of that involved. Seriously, do
you think that is a positive and welcoming environment?
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3e76500d at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Censorship is a token word that is thrown about by people who feel
> threatened that they can't say anything they want when and where they want
> to. Look around you. The world is full of censorship, even the United
> States of America. In most cases, such censorship leads to a productive
and
> positive atmosphere. The question is not about censorship. It's the
> question of this level of censorship creating a productive and positive
> atmosphere in the Gate.
>
> SW Chris
>
> for helping newbies and others learn the
gathering
get
> After
> way
is
for
> it
you
> agree
discussion
and
> discussion...
>
>
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Mar 19, 2003, 1:32am
I definitely don't think the GKs should be disbanded, but I don't think they
should be allowed to eject whenever they want. I definitely wouldn't have a
good impression of AW after seeing some of the macros they are using - it's
simply too much.
[View Quote]"sw chris" <chrisw10 at skywalkeronline.net> wrote in message
news:3e77dfbc at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> I wasn't advocating any opinion whatsoever in that post. But in my
opinion,
> and I'm assuming being "jumped at" means being yelled at in caps or being
> warned of ejection in a threatening manner by a Gatekeeper, in that
> particular case it wasn't a productive environment.
>
> The reason why the word censorship is a token word that people use is
> because it has such a negative stigma attached to it. But censorship's
> definition is only to limit the expression of something. And there are
> different levels of doing that. Like all words, they weren't originally
> intended to bring either positive or negative feelings to those who hear
it.
>
> For instance, the anti-libel laws in most first-world nations are a form
of
> censorship. And that leads to a positive and productive environment. But
> there is a higher level of censorship that exists in most dictatorships.
> The free press is censored from saying anything bad about its government.
> That is a higher level of censorship. Do you see where I'm going with
this?
>
> If everyone here is actually serious about moving the level of censorship
to
> one where it leads to a productive and positive atmosphere, then you're
> going to have to go talk to the head Gatekeeper, and you're going to have
to
> be armed with plenty of documented cases where Gatekeepers have abused
their
> power to eject. And you're going to have to approach the head GK with
> respect and perhaps even a little flattery to get your point across and
> advocate a position that is fair and equitable. Disbanding the
Gatekeepers
> or disallowing their use to eject anyone at anytime are not good positions
> to take!
>
> To my knowledge nobody's done this yet.
>
> Chris
>
> "ryan jacob" <ryan_jacob at hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e76a995$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
Seriously,
> do
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