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4 simple things...

Jun 30, 2003, 8:33am
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Mac Os X version of AW browser.
A mirror object.
That all the public worlds (AW,Yellow Stone...) will be open again for
tourists.
All Gor and Ds Worlds will be gray. (red in the 3.3)


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one more thing...

Jun 30, 2003, 8:44am
A ferrette avatar at AWGate.

one more thing...

Jun 30, 2003, 9:10am
A ferrete avatar at AWGate.

they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 8:25am
Hullo!
After 4 years in AW i have decided not to pay anymore.
the gate, Gatekeepers, double standards and Holocaust denial:
As AW is shrinking, i found myself more and more at AWGate,
which in some hours is the only place you can chat in english,
not in a Ds or Gor world and without gaining ex. points.
After 3 years i found out there are Gatekeepers in AW,
and the sight was very unpleasant.
In my opinion, most of those people are a huge disfunction.
Most of them use the guidelines only to pick on people they don't like,
While they let their friends say and do whatever they want.
I tried to contact gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and didn't got a productive
answer,
then i contact the management which chose to pass my emails to kellie which,
again,
did nothing productive.
The limit was crossed when Vermin2 was justifying Hitler's deeds at the
gate, without any respond from the Gatekeeper,
Tigger GK, who was aware enough of what's going on to eject me for saying
the GK's made a sport from ejecting me.
I guess that Tigger's ego is far much a delicate matter than the lives of
the millions who died in WW2.

P.S : I am still waiting for an answer from gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and
kellie about Tigger's behavior that day.

they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 6:42pm
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hello again,
a. the gate is a debateless area,ask the lady guys,when someone starts a
debate they have the old joke: " go debate with yourself at AWdebate.
so expressing his feeling about hitler isn't responsible for his crimes and
also the german ppl is debating.
b. when chating in AW the bill of rights is meaningless,it's like signing a
contract,in our contract we follow the guidelines of the AWGate and GZ.
C. i wasn't debating bud (even with my my poor english i can help you with a
better nick name "binary two bit friend") i was asking the GK to do his job
and pointed out the double staandards those gk's has.same duble standards
that wont let ppl say the word gay at the gate but let them justify the guy
who made them wear a pink signs on their cheast and sent them to the ovens.
D. my mother lost all her family but her parents and two aunts,they were all
burned in AKG ovens,the same reason i'll never have an AKG oven or never
rocorded with an AKG microphones i wont ignore remarks such as vermin's. you
can call me trouble maker and stand beside your "friends" at the gate but i
am posting this things here for the ppl who cares about AW and AW's
reputation. YES there are tabus,espacialy at the gate,where new costemers
come evryday, if that was the welcome i got first time comeing to AWGate 4
years ago your foolish remarks now would be saven from me "bud".


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hello again,<BR>
a. the gate is a debateless area,ask the lady guys,when someone starts a de=
bate they have the old joke: &quot; go debate with yourself at AWdebate.<BR>
so expressing his feeling about hitler isn't responsible for his crimes and=
also the german ppl is debating.<BR>
b. when chating in AW the bill of rights is meaningless,it's like signing a=
contract,in our contract we follow the guidelines of the AWGate and GZ.<BR>
C. i wasn't debating bud (even with my my poor english i can help you with =
a better nick name &quot;binary two bit friend&quot;) i was asking the GK to=
do his job and pointed out <B>the double staandards those gk's has</B>.same=
duble standards that wont let ppl say the word gay at the gate but let them=
justify the guy who made them wear a pink &nbsp;signs on their cheast and s=
ent them to the ovens.<BR>
D. my mother lost all her family but her parents and two aunts,they were al=
l burned in AKG ovens,the same reason i'll never have an AKG oven or never r=
ocorded with an AKG microphones i wont ignore remarks such as vermin's. you =
can call me trouble maker and stand beside your &quot;friends&quot; at the g=
ate but i am posting this things here for the ppl who cares about AW and AW'=
s reputation. YES there are tabus,espacialy at the gate,where new <B>costeme=
rs </B>come evryday, if that was the welcome i got first time comeing to AWG=
ate 4 years ago your foolish remarks now would be saven from me &quot;bud&qu=
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they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 8:37pm
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sory john
i am new to this
i was answering all what i read and used your replay as the one i replied
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aw is dead :( aw managmenmt sucks

Jun 30, 2003, 11:48pm
in article 3F00DEA4.5060502 at innocent.com, duskbat at duskbat at innocent.com
wrote on 7/1/03 4:11 AM:
i don't get why ppl get mad,
just o what i did,
cancel,
when enough ppl who are not gor and not ds let's see what enzo does with a
reputation of sadon and gamora.
when things work you don't fix them.
if they don't understand our emails they prob understand the lack of dead
presedents we send them...
> AW managment sucks, AW GZ sucks. and there is no one left in worlds to
> really talk to and revive the community. Get off your ass enzo and
> start to improve this program. Stop snorting our money enzo we send in
> for our cits. When i 1st came to AW in 1998 aw was very active and
> everynite there was an event or function, or a community gathering with
> many people who enjoyed the building and friendships in aw. Now this
> place is INAVTIVEWORLDS and enzo i suggest u hurry up and register
> www.inactiveworlds.com befor someone else does. But then again anyone
> else would actually try and help this program. So is aw gonna get
> better? are we gonna get more cits to play with? guess not. Mebbe i
> will leave to what a shame to give up such a good idea. but then again
> enzo and AW managment sucks. :)
> Duskbat
> (spell checker broken)
>

they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 8:40am
Hullo!
After 4 years in AW i have decided not to pay anymore.
the gate, Gatekeepers, double standards and Holocaust denial:
As AW is shrinking, i found myself more and more at AWGate,
which in some hours is the only place you can chat in english,
not in a Ds or Gor world and without gaining ex. points.
After 3 years i found out there are Gatekeepers in AW,
and the sight was very unpleasant.
In my opinion, most of those people are a huge disfunction.
Most of them use the guidelines only to pick on people they don't like,
While they let their friends say and do whatever they want.
I tried to contact gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and didn't got a productive
answer,
then i contact the management which chose to pass my emails to kellie which,
again,
did nothing productive.
The limit was crossed when Vermin2 was justifying Hitler's deeds at the
gate, without any respond from the Gatekeeper,
Tigger GK, who was aware enough of what's going on to eject me for saying
the GK's made a sport from ejecting me.
I guess that Tigger's ego is far much a delicate matter than the lives of
the millions who died in WW2.

P.S : I am still waiting for an answer from gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and
kellie about Tigger's behavior that day.

they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 11:45am
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in article 3f003179$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 3:47 PM:

here is the log:

Immigration Officer: Welcome to the AWGate. Much of the content in Active
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[Customs Aide]: Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. For the Conduct Guidelines
please say World Rules or see
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please say World Rules or see
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Bowen: instead of those that want to cause problems, like pay off tabacco
and oil industries
Amunition121: hi ppl
"Minoataur78": nah, tallahasee
"LeglizHemp": hi 121
Moron.: hi Amnu
Moron.: <---missed again...grrrrr
"Vermin2": No, that Jew Russian Lenin who led the Bolshivick revolution.
Tigger GK: Hi amun
Nevik: Better idea is , if they want to make a law, let em pay for it out
of their OWN pocket
"LeglizHemp": john lennon was a russian?
Moron.: lol Leg
000: 1918 lenin
Bowen: yeah I like that idea Nevik ;)
"Weird": Tigger
IggyTheAlleayCat: no leglized only commnist
"Vermin2": Kinda funny huh, I bet you didn't know Hitler was half jew
either.
Bowen: but then it has to be approved by the public ;)
"LeglizHemp": darn and i always thought he was from liverpool
Bowen: who didn't know Hitler was jewish?
"Weird": Are you an experienced builder
IggyTheAlleayCat: tigger now you allow a nazi chat ?!
000: no he was a chirstian
Bowen: it's fine, it's certainly within G limits iggy
"Weird": what do i type in the action box to make when I click on the
object, the midi stops playing, click on it again, it starts playing again?
"LeglizHemp": nazi are easy to tease
Moron.: lol
"Vermin2": No he was a fool who attached onto an idea.
"Kevin": GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
IggyTheAlleayCat: vermin quit that ok take it to aw debate
"Weird": Can you help me tigger
Julionna K: *looks to Kevi and sees him growling and giggles*
"Vermin2": And people followed him because they were weak of mind and
soul.
Moron.: lol Juli
IggyTheAlleayCat: vermin cut that
"LeglizHemp": i am weak of mind....lead me......LOL
"Weird": what do i type in the action box to make when I click on an
object with a midi, the midi stops playing, click on it again, it starts
playing again?
Moron.: <--weak of mind....lol
"Vermin2": I appologize, I love being, my own man.
Julionna K: hehe
"Weird": TIGGER! what do i type in the action box to make when I click on
an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, click on it again, it starts
playing again?
"LeglizHemp": my head sounds like a spray paint can when i shake it
"Vermin2": But then?
NuttyRedHead: hello everyone :)
Moron.: <---listening to leg's Head..........
Julionna K: *mutes herself*
Julionna K: oppppps
"LeglizHemp": LOL
Moron.: hi Nutty
IggyTheAlleayCat: (to "Vermin2") vermin,all my moms family got to the
ovens but her parnts and two aunts please cut it
"Weird": darn
NuttyRedHead: hiya Tigger and Moron :)
Julionna K: hello NRH
"Vermin2": I refuse to loose my Constitutional right just because some
beaurocrat says so.
NuttyRedHead: hi Julionna :)
IggyTheAlleayCat: thank you vermin
Moron.: at least you have somthing in there Leg.....lol
"LeglizHemp": bummer tigger you missing great tune right now
IggyTheAlleayCat: when you log to AW you have no continutional right you
have guidelines
Nevik: Mornin Nutty, Nutty? ...........{{{{{{{{{{{{{Nutski}}}}}}}}}}} :}
"LeglizHemp": floyd........echos
"Vermin2": Iggy, you have a mandate to stand up.
"LeglizHemp": awesum
Onexpresso: gee those nose landings
Onexpresso: hello Iggy
NuttyRedHead: hehehe (((((((((Nev)))))))))))
Moron.: wb One
000: yeh bill of right onlt apply to gov
Nevik: Hi One :}
"Vermin2": I want my rights back.
Onexpresso: Greetings Honorable Tigger
000: sould be a corp bill of rights
Julionna K: *ventures off and goes waundering about*
Moron.: <--of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the
most.......sigh
"LeglizHemp": i think there should be a moron bill of rights....what do u
think moron?
"Kevin": Yikes
Nevik: Bill of rights? hes retired , but Hillary is still around
"Vermin2": Send the message through the land, but not Washington.
"Kevin": *Hides*
Moron.: <---agrees with Leg
NuttyRedHead: (((((((Kevin))))))))
Moron.: dont go to far Juli.......lol
"LeglizHemp": we have the right to be stupid and oblivious
"Kevin": ((((((((((((((NRH))))))))))))))
Onexpresso: Hello Red
Onexpresso: hugs 2u
NuttyRedHead: hiya Onex :)
"Vermin2": Them willy wakers that set on tall chairs.
Moron.: 3 cheers for Leg
Nevik: Time ta go ta work.... later all :}
Julionna K: *leaps into the water and swims across*
Moron.: later Nevik
NuttyRedHead: Tigger, has Mr Barton been in yet thismorning?
Nevik: adidas, Hostile ole banana
"LeglizHemp": lol moron we should work on that bill of rights
sometime.......lol
Moron.: <--hasnt seen him Nutty
NuttyRedHead: have a good one Nev ;)
NuttyRedHead: ok, thank you Moron and Tigger :)
"Vermin2": Now cool it down.
Moron.: yes we should Leg.....lol
Moron.: <---looking for pencil..........
Moron.: nite Tigger
NuttyRedHead: take care Tigger :)
Moron.: you ok Juli??
"Vermin2": We need time to read the CONSTITUTION.
"LeglizHemp": nite tigger....don't bend your tail
IggyTheAlleayCat: those GK's made a sport from ejecting me even when ppl
stalk me I am the one thtat get ejected :/
"Kevin": LOL
"LeglizHemp": lol
Moron.: you sure, the Ackkk sounded bad.....lol
"Vermin2": Do you think you can do it?
"LeglizHemp": or both tigs?
Immigration Officer: You have been ejected from awgate


> You sound like a toublemaker to me....post the chat please...:) Sorry to
> rush to judgement....but i do have a sense for these things...:)
>
> Leo :)
>
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in article 3f003179$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at leo at realPANTSt=
ourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 3:47 PM:<BR>
<BR>
<U>here is the log:<BR>
</U><BR>
Immigration Officer: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Welcome to the AWGate. Much of the c=
ontent in Active Worlds is user generated &amp; may not be appropriate for a=
ll users. Setting your browser rating level can improve your enjoyment of AW=
by reducing your exposure to offensive content. Enjoy your stay :)<BR>
[Customs Aide]: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. &nbsp;For the =
Conduct Guidelines please say World Rules or see http://www.activeworlds.com=
/community/conduct.asp<BR>
[Customs Aide]: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Welcome, IggyTheAlleayCat. &nbsp;For the =
Conduct Guidelines please say World Rules or see http://www.activeworlds.com=
/community/conduct.asp<BR>
Bowen: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;instead of those that want to cause problems, like=
pay off tabacco and oil industries<BR>
Amunition121: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hi ppl<BR>
&quot;Minoataur78&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;nah, tallahasee<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hi 121<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hi Amnu<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;---missed again...grrrrr<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;No, that Jew Russian Lenin who le=
d the Bolshivick revolution.<BR>
Tigger GK: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi amun<BR>
</B>Nevik: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Better idea is , if they want to make a law, l=
et em pay for it out of their OWN pocket<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;john lennon was a russian?<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lol Leg<BR>
000: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;1918 lenin<BR>
Bowen: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;yeah I like that idea Nevik ;)<BR>
&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tigger<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;no leglized only commnist<BR>
&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Kinda funny huh, I bet you didn't kn=
ow Hitler was half jew either.<BR>
</B>Bowen: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;but then it has to be approved by the public ;=
)<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;darn and i always thought he was =
from liverpool<BR>
Bowen: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;who didn't know Hitler was jewish?<BR>
&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Are you an experienced builder<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;tigger now you allow a nazi chat ?!<=
BR>
</B>000: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;no he was a chirstian<BR>
Bowen: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it's fine, it's certainly within G limits iggy<BR>
&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;what do i type in the action box to ma=
ke when I click on the object, the midi stops playing, click on it again, it=
starts playing again?<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;nazi are easy to tease<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lol<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;No he was a fool who attached ont=
o an idea.<BR>
</B>&quot;Kevin&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;vermin quit that ok take it to aw de=
bate<BR>
</B>&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Can you help me tigger<BR>
Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*looks to Kevi and sees him growling and gigg=
les*<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And people followed him because t=
hey were weak of mind and soul.<BR>
</B>Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lol Juli<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;vermin cut that<BR>
</B>&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;i am weak of mind....lead me.=
......LOL<BR>
&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;what do i type in the action box to ma=
ke when I click on an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, click on i=
t again, it starts playing again?<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;--weak of mind....lol<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I appologize, I love being, my ow=
n man.<BR>
</B>Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hehe<BR>
&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;TIGGER! what do i type in the action b=
ox to make when I click on an object with a midi, the midi stops playing, cl=
ick on it again, it starts playing again?<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;my head sounds like a spray paint=
can when i shake it<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;But then?<BR>
</B>NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hello everyone :)<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;---listening to leg's Head..........<BR>
Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*mutes herself*<BR>
Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;oppppps<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LOL<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hi Nutty<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(to &quot;Vermin2&quot;) vermin,all =
my moms family got to the ovens but her parnts and two aunts please cut it<B=
R>
</B>&quot;Weird&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;darn<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hiya Tigger and Moron &nbsp;:)<BR>
Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hello NRH<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I refuse to loose my Constitution=
al right just because some beaurocrat says so.<BR>
</B>NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hi Julionna &nbsp;:)<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;thank you vermin<BR>
</B>Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;at least you have somthing in there Leg.....l=
ol<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;bummer tigger you missing great t=
une right now<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;when you log to AW you have no conti=
nutional right you have guidelines<BR>
</B>Nevik: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Mornin Nutty, Nutty? ...........{{{{{{{{{{{{{N=
utski}}}}}}}}}}} :}<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;floyd........echos<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Iggy, you have a mandate to stand=
up.<BR>
</B>&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;awesum<BR>
Onexpresso: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;gee those nose landings<BR>
Onexpresso: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hello Iggy<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hehehe &nbsp;&nbsp;(((((((((Nev)))))))))))<=
BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;wb One<BR>
000: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;yeh bill of right onlt apply to gov<BR>
Nevik: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hi One :}<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I want my rights back.<BR>
</B>Onexpresso: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Greetings Honorable Tigger<BR>
000: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;sould be a corp bill of rights<BR>
Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*ventures off and goes waundering about*<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;--of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind=
the most.......sigh<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;i think there should be a moron b=
ill of rights....what do u think moron?<BR>
&quot;Kevin&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yikes<BR>
Nevik: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Bill of rights? hes retired , but Hillary is still=
around<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Send the message through the land=
, but not Washington.<BR>
</B>&quot;Kevin&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*Hides*<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;---agrees with Leg<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(((((((Kevin))))))))<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dont go to far Juli.......lol<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;we have the right to be stupid an=
d oblivious<BR>
&quot;Kevin&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;((((((((((((((NRH))))))))))))))<BR>
Onexpresso: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Hello Red<BR>
Onexpresso: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hugs 2u<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;hiya Onex &nbsp;:)<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Them willy wakers that set on tal=
l chairs.<BR>
</B>Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;3 cheers for Leg<BR>
Nevik: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Time ta go ta work.... later all :}<BR>
Julionna K: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*leaps into the water and swims across*=
<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;later Nevik<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Tigger, has Mr Barton been in yet thismorni=
ng?<BR>
Nevik: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;adidas, Hostile ole banana<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lol moron we should work on that =
bill of rights sometime.......lol<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;--hasnt seen him Nutty<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;have a good one Nev &nbsp;;)<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;ok, thank you Moron and Tigger &nbsp;:)<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Now cool it down.<BR>
</B>Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;yes we should Leg.....lol<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;---looking for pencil..........<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;nite Tigger<BR>
NuttyRedHead: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;take care Tigger &nbsp;:)<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you ok Juli??<BR>
&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We need time to read the CONSTITUTIO=
N.<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;nite tigger....don't bend your ta=
il<BR>
<B>IggyTheAlleayCat: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;those GK's made a sport from ejectin=
g me even when ppl stalk me I am the one thtat get ejected :/<BR>
</B>&quot;Kevin&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;LOL<BR>
&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lol<BR>
Moron.: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;you sure, the Ackkk sounded bad.....lol<BR>
<B>&quot;Vermin2&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Do you think you can do it?<BR>
</B>&quot;LeglizHemp&quot;: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;or both tigs?<BR>
<B>Immigration Officer: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;You have been ejected from awgate=
<BR>
</B><BR>
<BR>
&gt; You sound like a toublemaker to me....post the chat please...:) &nbsp;=
&nbsp;Sorry to <BR>
&gt; rush to judgement....but i do have a sense for these things...:)<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Leo &nbsp;:)<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; &quot;iggythealleycat&quot; &lt;arnoldlayn2005 at hotmail.com&gt; wrote i=
n message <BR>
&gt; news:BB25ED2D.5A8%arnoldlayn2005 at hotmail.com...<BR>
&gt;&gt; Hullo!<BR>
&gt;&gt; After 4 years in AW i have decided not to pay anymore.<BR>
&gt;&gt; the gate, Gatekeepers, double standards and Holocaust denial:<BR>
&gt;&gt; As AW is shrinking, i found myself more and more at AWGate,<BR>
&gt;&gt; which in some hours is the only place you can chat in english,<BR>
&gt;&gt; not in a Ds or Gor world and without gaining ex. points.<BR>
&gt;&gt; After 3 years i found out there are Gatekeepers in AW,<BR>
&gt;&gt; and the sight was very unpleasant.<BR>
&gt;&gt; In my opinion, most of those people are a huge disfunction.<BR>
&gt;&gt; Most of them use the guidelines only to pick on people they don't =
like,<BR>
&gt;&gt; While they let their friends say and do whatever they want.<BR>
&gt;&gt; I tried to contact gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and didn't got a p=
roductive<BR>
&gt;&gt; answer,<BR>
&gt;&gt; then i contact the management which chose to pass my emails to kel=
lie which,<BR>
&gt;&gt; again,<BR>
&gt;&gt; did nothing productive.<BR>
&gt;&gt; The limit was crossed when Vermin2 was justifying Hitler's deeds a=
t the<BR>
&gt;&gt; gate, without any respond from the Gatekeeper,<BR>
&gt;&gt; Tigger GK, who was aware enough of what's going on to eject me for=
saying<BR>
&gt;&gt; the GK's made a sport from ejecting me.<BR>
&gt;&gt; I guess that Tigger's ego is far much a delicate matter than the l=
ives of<BR>
&gt;&gt; the millions who died in WW2.<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; P.S : I am still waiting for an answer from gatekeepers at activeworl=
ds.com and<BR>
&gt;&gt; kellie about Tigger's behavior that day.<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
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they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 12:42pm
in article 3f004b27$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 5:37 PM:
i muted the GK

> I for one do not buy this post...your missing to much GK chatter...:) And i
> stand by my original assessment..:)
>
> Leo :)
>
> Don't make trouble at the Gate and you won't be in trouble at the Gate..:)
>
>
>
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they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 1:16pm
in article 3f0052d0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:10 PM:

first of all please stop judge me as a truble maker and bad mouth me bud.
if you saw any reason i should be ejected in that log point it out.
if you don't belive my log ask for Tigger for his log and come back when you
read it.


> You, also, have toublemaking tendencies and should avoid the gate at all
> times....you do not like authority figures..I've seen you in action at the
> gate......:)
>
> There you have it.....no charge for the assessment.
> Leo :)
>
>
>
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they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 1:23pm
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in article BB262DF9.8A6%arnoldlayn2005 at hotmail.com, iggythealleycat at
arnoldlayn2005 at hotmail.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:16 PM:

> in article 3f0052d0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
> leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:10 PM:
also i want to say
and sory for double postings,
that i feel there is a cliuge in the gate,
of some gatekeepers which i wont say their names,
as i said,i feel, they pick on people they don't like and let their friends
do what ever they want.
i feel the pick on me.
so for them i am a trouble maker.
i want to know which of the GK ever even read the F.A.Q of aw so he could
help more newbies with differant problems ?
they only read what people think of them insted of beeing good at their
work.
and after you asumed i am a truble maker i allow myself to asume that after
they read what people think of them they send their friends to defend them
so it wont look silly.
>
> first of all please stop judge me as a truble maker and bad mouth me bud.
> if you saw any reason i should be ejected in that log point it out.
> if you don't belive my log ask for Tigger for his log and come back when you
> read it.
>
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<BR>
&gt; in article 3f0052d0$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at<BR>
&gt; leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:10 PM:<BR>
also i want to say<BR>
and sory for double postings,<BR>
that i feel there is a cliuge in the gate,<BR>
of some gatekeepers which i wont say their names,<BR>
as i said,i feel, <B>they pick on people they don't like and let their frie=
nds do what ever they want.<BR>
</B>i feel the pick on me.<BR>
so for them i am a trouble maker.<BR>
i want to know which of the GK ever even read the <B>F.A.Q </B>of aw so he =
could help more newbies with differant problems ?<BR>
they only read what people think of them insted of beeing good at their wor=
k.<BR>
and after you asumed i am a truble maker i allow myself to asume that after=
they read what people think of them they send their friends to defend them =
so it wont look silly.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; first of all please stop judge me as a truble maker and bad mouth me b=
ud.<BR>
&gt; if you saw any reason i should be ejected in that log point it out.<BR=
>
&gt; if you don't belive my log ask for Tigger for his log and come back wh=
en you<BR>
&gt; read it.<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; You, also, have toublemaking tendencies and should avoid the gate =
at all<BR>
&gt;&gt; times....you do not like authority figures..I've seen you in actio=
n at the<BR>
&gt;&gt; gate......:)<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; There you have it.....no charge for the assessment.<BR>
&gt;&gt; Leo :)<BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
&gt;&gt; <BR>
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they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 1:37pm
in article 3f0058b5$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:35 PM:

i am not a GK
i am helpfull when i feel like beeing helpfull.

> ok....how many HOURS a day do you spend at the gate helping people?
>
>
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they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 1:41pm
in article 3f00592f$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:37 PM:
bud,
please read my first thing i wrote
as i said AW is empty in some hours,
that's the reason i am at the gate :)

> this is easy to solve Iggy.....if you don;'t like it don't go to the
> Gate....stay away from there...you obviously do not need help with AW...and
> your not there to help others...why do you go there?
>
>

they crossed the line.

Jun 30, 2003, 1:43pm
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in article 3f005a20$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com, binarybud at
leo at realPANTStourvision.com wrote on 6/30/03 6:41 PM:
please do try and read
not Only troublemakers/rude/crude people get ejected also people the GK's
doesn't liek.
:))

> YES absolutely they need eject. What are you afraid of? "THE GATE IS FOR
> NEWBIES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP THEM"..... If your not one of these
> people then what are you doing there?. :)
>
> Leo :)
>
> Only troublemakers/rude/crude people get ejected.

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please do try and read<BR>
<B>not Only troublemakers/rude/crude people get ejected also people the GK'=
s doesn't liek.<BR>
:))<BR>
</B><BR>
&gt; YES absolutely they need eject. &nbsp;&nbsp;What are you afraid of? &n=
bsp;&nbsp;&quot;THE GATE IS FOR <BR>
&gt; NEWBIES AND THE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO HELP THEM&quot;..... &nbsp;&nbsp;I=
f your not one of these <BR>
&gt; people then what are you doing there?. &nbsp;&nbsp;:)<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Leo :)<BR>
&gt; <BR>
&gt; Only troublemakers/rude/crude people get ejected.<BR>
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they crossed the line.

Jul 1, 2003, 1:36am
in article 3f01003d at server1.Activeworlds.com, shred at shred at myrealbox.com
wrote on 7/1/03 6:30 AM:

[View Quote] vermin was talking about things that shouldn't be said at the gate.
i was ejected.
i don't see what you don't understand ?!

they crossed the line.

Jul 1, 2003, 10:04am
in article 3f011d07 at server1.Activeworlds.com, count dracula at
dracula at netsonic.fi wrote on 7/1/03 8:32 AM:
hello again,
what hearted me the most from vermin's sayings was:

"Vermin2": No he was a fool who attached onto an idea.
"Kevin": GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!
IggyTheAlleayCat: vermin quit that ok take it to aw debate
"Weird": Can you help me tigger
Julionna K: *looks to Kevi and sees him growling and giggles*
"Vermin2": And people followed him because they were weak of mind and
soul.

a. it's debating.
b. this is where the roots of Holocaust denial starts,
no one is realy responsable...
i just read a book layely about a guy who said evry day he has to
unroot baobab small plants so his planet wont turn to dust.
this is the main reason i am posting this.
i had many problems with GK's until now and their cliuge.
but as i said,with that they have croessed my line.
no way i would stay more than 5 minutes if that was the first chat i would
practice here.



> I agree that the ejection of Iggy was wrong. I do not see the insulting part
> of jewish people tho anywhere.
> I think that black and jewish people these day are somehow in some special
> position when it comes to political-correctness.
>
> If I would hit someone white because I do not like him, it would be a fight,
> maybe I would get a ticket; if I would hit a black person I would be guilty
> of hate-crime and probably do time.
> It seems that one is more or less required to only speak bad of Hitler, but
> god forbid you to say anything bad about the israeli govermant who has
> harassed the palestinian people for ageses.It is automaticly taken as
> anti-semitic and that must be the worst thing you can do; so I think some
> minorities "ride" on the history these days. They have been badly treaten in
> the past so now everyone should not be allowed to say anything bad about
> them.
>
> Drac
> .duo. <ncommons at comcast.net> kirjoitti
> viestissä:3f00ec91$1 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> was
> iggy
> history
>
>

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Jun 30, 2003, 6:42pm
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hello again,
a. the gate is a debateless area,ask the lady guys,when someone starts a
debate they have the old joke: " go debate with yourself at AWdebate.
so expressing his feeling about hitler isn't responsible for his crimes and
also the german ppl is debating.
b. when chating in AW the bill of rights is meaningless,it's like signing a
contract,in our contract we follow the guidelines of the AWGate and GZ.
C. i wasn't debating bud (even with my my poor english i can help you with a
better nick name "binary two bit friend") i was asking the GK to do his job
and pointed out the double staandards those gk's has.same duble standards
that wont let ppl say the word gay at the gate but let them justify the guy
who made them wear a pink signs on their cheast and sent them to the ovens.
D. my mother lost all her family but her parents and two aunts,they were all
burned in AKG ovens,the same reason i'll never have an AKG oven or never
rocorded with an AKG microphones i wont ignore remarks such as vermin's. you
can call me trouble maker and stand beside your "friends" at the gate but i
am posting this things here for the ppl who cares about AW and AW's
reputation. YES there are tabus,espacialy at the gate,where new costemers
come evryday, if that was the welcome i got first time comeing to AWGate 4
years ago your foolish remarks now would be saven from me "bud".


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bate they have the old joke: &quot; go debate with yourself at AWdebate.<BR>
so expressing his feeling about hitler isn't responsible for his crimes and=
also the german ppl is debating.<BR>
b. when chating in AW the bill of rights is meaningless,it's like signing a=
contract,in our contract we follow the guidelines of the AWGate and GZ.<BR>
C. i wasn't debating bud (even with my my poor english i can help you with =
a better nick name &quot;binary two bit friend&quot;) i was asking the GK to=
do his job and pointed out <B>the double staandards those gk's has</B>.same=
duble standards that wont let ppl say the word gay at the gate but let them=
justify the guy who made them wear a pink &nbsp;signs on their cheast and s=
ent them to the ovens.<BR>
D. my mother lost all her family but her parents and two aunts,they were al=
l burned in AKG ovens,the same reason i'll never have an AKG oven or never r=
ocorded with an AKG microphones i wont ignore remarks such as vermin's. you =
can call me trouble maker and stand beside your &quot;friends&quot; at the g=
ate but i am posting this things here for the ppl who cares about AW and AW'=
s reputation. YES there are tabus,espacialy at the gate,where new <B>costeme=
rs </B>come evryday, if that was the welcome i got first time comeing to AWG=
ate 4 years ago your foolish remarks now would be saven from me &quot;bud&qu=
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Jun 30, 2003, 8:37pm
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sory john
i am new to this
i was answering all what i read and used your replay as the one i replied
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I crossed the line

Jun 30, 2003, 10:07pm
in article 3f00c627 at server1.Activeworlds.com, baro at baronjutter at shaw.ca
wrote on 7/1/03 2:22 AM:
well it's not my fualt ppl like bud makeing those silly arguments

> Shut yer fester'in gobs, ya tits.
>
> For christ sake am I crossing the line to ask to keep your ridiculously
> banal arguments off the NG's? Your thread reads like telegrams between two
> people. Could you maybe move it to telegrams? This goes for everyone. If
> you want to point out some insanely nit picky spelling or technical error in
> someone's arugment, or endlessly debate some tiny detail that matters to no
> one, perhaps you could telegram the person instead.
>
> I thik awi needs to create a "pointless unproductive whining and
> one-upsmanship" forum for this shit.
>
> Uhg I give up, this is my last pointless "stop pointless arguments" post.
>
>

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