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Jun 30, 2003, 8:25am

Hullo!
After 4 years in AW i have decided not to pay anymore.
the gate, Gatekeepers, double standards and Holocaust denial:
As AW is shrinking, i found myself more and more at AWGate,
which in some hours is the only place you can chat in english,
not in a Ds or Gor world and without gaining ex. points.
After 3 years i found out there are Gatekeepers in AW,
and the sight was very unpleasant.
In my opinion, most of those people are a huge disfunction.
Most of them use the guidelines only to pick on people they don't like,
While they let their friends say and do whatever they want.
I tried to contact gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and didn't got a productive
answer,
then i contact the management which chose to pass my emails to kellie which,
again,
did nothing productive.
The limit was crossed when Vermin2 was justifying Hitler's deeds at the
gate, without any respond from the Gatekeeper,
Tigger GK, who was aware enough of what's going on to eject me for saying
the GK's made a sport from ejecting me.
I guess that Tigger's ego is far much a delicate matter than the lives of
the millions who died in WW2.

P.S : I am still waiting for an answer from gatekeepers at activeworlds.com and
kellie about Tigger's behavior that day.

Jun 30, 2003, 4:41pm

Did you provide a log of the event in your e-mail to Active Worlds? Are there any other witnesses willing to testify the same as you? If you find that the answer to both of these questions is 'no', then AWI is hardly obliged to take your letter very seriously.

You waltz in here foaming vaguely about a gatekeeper's alleged injustices providing no evidence, not even so much as a log, and expect us all to unquestioningly see the immense evils that lurk around every corner of AW. All we have to go on here is your word, which, when dealing with unknown persons on the Internet, is worthless.

If you're going to publically tarnish someone's reputation (for all we know someone that you merely dislike), then you had damned well better be able to back it up with some semblance of evidence. If you have a log and witnesses to verify your claim, fine. By all means, post them. But don't use half-verbalized accusations and a lack of information to attempt to sway your audience.

Good day.

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Jun 30, 2003, 4:55pm

Seeing as you did not cross-post correctly, I unfortunately missed the thread that has arisen in the Community newsgroup. You can find my further (and most likely final) response there.

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Jun 30, 2003, 5:16pm

I believe some GKs should be scrapped as they are just abusing power.

NOTE: I said SOME before you flame me.

~John

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Jun 30, 2003, 6:42pm

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hello again,
a. the gate is a debateless area,ask the lady guys,when someone starts a
debate they have the old joke: " go debate with yourself at AWdebate.
so expressing his feeling about hitler isn't responsible for his crimes and
also the german ppl is debating.
b. when chating in AW the bill of rights is meaningless,it's like signing a
contract,in our contract we follow the guidelines of the AWGate and GZ.
C. i wasn't debating bud (even with my my poor english i can help you with a
better nick name "binary two bit friend") i was asking the GK to do his job
and pointed out the double staandards those gk's has.same duble standards
that wont let ppl say the word gay at the gate but let them justify the guy
who made them wear a pink signs on their cheast and sent them to the ovens.
D. my mother lost all her family but her parents and two aunts,they were all
burned in AKG ovens,the same reason i'll never have an AKG oven or never
rocorded with an AKG microphones i wont ignore remarks such as vermin's. you
can call me trouble maker and stand beside your "friends" at the gate but i
am posting this things here for the ppl who cares about AW and AW's
reputation. YES there are tabus,espacialy at the gate,where new costemers
come evryday, if that was the welcome i got first time comeing to AWGate 4
years ago your foolish remarks now would be saven from me "bud".


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Re: they crossed the line.How is this in anyway a response to my post?

~John
[View Quote] hello again,
a. the gate is a debateless area,ask the lady guys,when someone starts =
a debate they have the old joke: " go debate with yourself at AWdebate.
so expressing his feeling about hitler isn't responsible for his =
crimes and also the german ppl is debating.
b. when chating in AW the bill of rights is meaningless,it's like =
signing a contract,in our contract we follow the guidelines of the =
AWGate and GZ.
C. i wasn't debating bud (even with my my poor english i can help you =
with a better nick name "binary two bit friend") i was asking the GK to =
do his job and pointed out the double staandards those gk's has.same =
duble standards that wont let ppl say the word gay at the gate but let =
them justify the guy who made them wear a pink signs on their cheast =
and sent them to the ovens.
D. my mother lost all her family but her parents and two aunts,they =
were all burned in AKG ovens,the same reason i'll never have an AKG oven =
or never rocorded with an AKG microphones i wont ignore remarks such as =
vermin's. you can call me trouble maker and stand beside your "friends" =
at the gate but i am posting this things here for the ppl who cares =
about AW and AW's reputation. YES there are tabus,espacialy at the =
gate,where new costemers come evryday, if that was the welcome i got =
first time comeing to AWGate 4 years ago your foolish remarks now would =
be saven from me "bud".


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Jun 30, 2003, 8:37pm

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sory john
i am new to this
i was answering all what i read and used your replay as the one i replied
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