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May 19, 2001, 1:13pm

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2333/rookie.html

this is the webpage i got of the AW Historical Site or whatver...talks about
this mafia type gang thing and is where i got the above coords....EXTREME
VANDELISM!!!!!!!!!.....a lot of wasted space on stupid $hit.

May 19, 2001, 1:35pm

Yep, I remember King Punisher and his "posse" back in 1995 very well.
Could never forget the AW Police Department, either. ;) And the New
World Times brings back memories as well. Not to worry though; all of
the bugs and vulnerabilities Punisher and his group exploited in the AW
software have been fixed. It is indeed an interesting story and captures
a period of time when AW was in its infancy. I encourage all citizens
that immigrated from 1997 on to look at the screen shots of the AW
Browser on that website. THAT is what us "old timers" had to use way
back when. They didn't even have telegrams back then (which could either
be a good OR a bad thing, depending on how you look at it ;). It is my
personal view that King Punisher and his fellow members have left AW for
good (I doubt he ever registered a citizenship when now AWCI started
charging for them). But I do believe that Punisher paved the way for all
of the other "hacker groups" and "vandalism groups" that existed/still
do exist in AW today. It is an interesting part of AW history.

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May 19, 2001, 1:44pm

lol good times huh builderz?

hey forget about telegrams, we didnt even have teleport to start with.

it took ages to walk to your building site, and then you hoped you didnt get
a disconnect and had to walk all the way back again.

I can remember almost begging to get a new teleport from the teleport
station when it started because teleports were a restricted command and I
did get one to my city which is still there.. the time that saved for
building was a godsend:))

Moria


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May 19, 2001, 4:43pm

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May 19, 2001, 5:01pm

Please see my comments below:

[View Quote] Most definitely. ;)

> hey forget about telegrams, we didnt even have teleport to start with.

True, I forgot to mention that. There wasn't even whispers or even a
contact list implemented yet, if I can recall correctly. Join requests
weren't added yet either.

> it took ages to walk to your building site, and then you hoped you didnt get
> a disconnect and had to walk all the way back again.

LOL. So true. Hmm...what version did Ron and/or Roland implement the
faster moving Ctrl key? You NEEDED to hold down Ctrl just to get around
back then.

> I can remember almost begging to get a new teleport from the teleport
> station when it started because teleports were a restricted command and I
> did get one to my city which is still there.. the time that saved for
> building was a godsend:))

I think the Grand Central Station was the most visited property back
then because everyone either had or wanted a teleport to their property
there. Ah...the good old days. Hehe.

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May 19, 2001, 5:45pm

hey!!!!!!! that innocent smile is copyrighted:)))))

Moria :))


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May 19, 2001, 5:59pm

lolol

[View Quote] > True, I forgot to mention that. There wasn't even whispers or even a
> contact list implemented yet, if I can recall correctly. Join requests
> weren't added yet either.

There wasn't even a registry at first, the fact you didn't build on someone
elses plot was by common courtesy if I remember correctly.

I also remember the meteorite shower which wiped everything in AW and gave
everyone a fresh start.. the land rush on that day was worse than the
california gold rush:)

I also remember the first time DM introduced those plexiglass panels that
almost everything seems to be built with these days, and formed the basis of
the object set for Colony.

> LOL. So true. Hmm...what version did Ron and/or Roland implement the
> faster moving Ctrl key? You NEEDED to hold down Ctrl just to get around
> back then.

Oh heck yeah, I have no idea, am guessing at 60 or so, around then I think
sometime close to the intro of that fixed teleport booth at GZ that took you
to the Grand Central Station.:)

It was commemorated by the race across AW from edge to edge which took
agessssssss!! :))

> I think the Grand Central Station was the most visited property back
> then because everyone either had or wanted a teleport to their property
> there. Ah...the good old days. Hehe.

deffinately and its still there with all its links:) I still have it after
all this time in my bookmarks:)

For anyone who hasn't visited it, its on a teleport by GZ in AW. Have a
look round and see some of the very early builds in AW:)

I also remember the 24 hours building in AW when we started Victoria city
with new special Z objects when for the first time we got avatars other than
Cy:))

sheesh... sounding like an old fogey on a park bench.. no good gotta get
back to lights and move commands:)

But in the meantime.. thank you to all those still here and no longer here,
you ARE remembered with thanks and gratitude:)

Moria

May 19, 2001, 7:03pm

The registry went in relatively early but Ron misplaced a coupla magic numbers
so there were a bunch of spots where you could encroach because it was checking
to see if anyone else had built in some OTHER area instead of there...
The Ctrl key was even earlier but it was the Alt key that really HONKED. I
remember, I was BEGGING for teleports forever, and Ron was all like, nope it
ruins the similitude of reality or some shit that he got from a bunch of asses
who theorized what VR should be like. Maybe Digigardener hehe, doesn't he have a
PhD? LOL those guys crack me up, When I saw on the website for Middle Earth
that it wasn't going to have quick teleport/recall/whatever I knew THAT game
would never see the light of day...
So anyway one night, I was SO immersed in AW back then, and I had AW dreams alla
time...and I dreamed of being able to WARP. In my dream actually when you
started to warp everything took on a ghostly aspect and the ground changed to a
grid. Funny, I think they are doing it something like that in Anarchy Online.
Anyway, I called Ron all excited about it, like hey man we could do it THIS way,
and you'd just be er, well, WARPing reality instead of punching holes through
it. He says hold on click click click click and it was done. Well ALmost that
quick, really. And warp really ROCKED I was so sorry to see it go...
Lotta this stuff is in the Times archive which still exists somewhere on my web
server. :)

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May 19, 2001, 7:15pm

LOL *telegrams?* We didn't have a *menu.* And there was no icq, we used Powwow,
I loved that loon call. :)

And we ate the bark off trees, and we LIKED it that way!

[View Quote] > Yep, I remember King Punisher and his "posse" back in 1995 very well.
> Could never forget the AW Police Department, either. ;) And the New
> World Times brings back memories as well. Not to worry though; all of
> the bugs and vulnerabilities Punisher and his group exploited in the AW
> software have been fixed. It is indeed an interesting story and captures
> a period of time when AW was in its infancy. I encourage all citizens
> that immigrated from 1997 on to look at the screen shots of the AW
> Browser on that website. THAT is what us "old timers" had to use way
> back when. They didn't even have telegrams back then (which could either
> be a good OR a bad thing, depending on how you look at it ;). It is my
> personal view that King Punisher and his fellow members have left AW for
> good (I doubt he ever registered a citizenship when now AWCI started
> charging for them). But I do believe that Punisher paved the way for all
> of the other "hacker groups" and "vandalism groups" that existed/still
> do exist in AW today. It is an interesting part of AW history.
>
> Builderz
> Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
> http://www.stuffx.com/aw/
> PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
>
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May 19, 2001, 8:11pm

You got me. I forgot about the lack of menu support back then too. Heck,
some of these "Active Worlds clones" people are trying to make seem to
have more features than the first version of the AW browser had in it.
Hehe. Ah, yes. I also remember PowWow. That used to be a good program.
If I can recall correctly, it had a white board type feature in it that
I used to use fairly often. I used to talk to this one AW citizen from
Israel over PowWow a lot. And you're right; you gotta love that loon
wave file. ;) Beats the ICQ "horn" sound. The latest version of ICQ,
IMO, is bloatware. Ever since AOL bought/merged/whatever with Mirabilis,
you could tell it would turn into either ad-ware or bloatware.

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May 19, 2001, 8:36pm

[View Quote] yep, powwow was good. I still have ICQ but use it less and less.. its become
really bloated and full of ads (shudder). It probably won't make it to the
next computer (whenever I get one).


HenrikG

May 19, 2001, 11:42pm

Yep. ICQ is now being phased out in favor of a proprietary version of ICQ which actually communicates with the ICQ servers and acts
just like ICQ, except much less lame. They're all over the internet now kiddies :)
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May 20, 2001, 2:27am

Remove the banner ads :) I followed the instructions and now my ICQ is
banner ad free :)
http://www.krano.com/icq.htm

May 21, 2001, 5:14pm

heehee, I am still using icq 99b.

[View Quote] > You got me. I forgot about the lack of menu support back then too. Heck,
> some of these "Active Worlds clones" people are trying to make seem to
> have more features than the first version of the AW browser had in it.
> Hehe. Ah, yes. I also remember PowWow. That used to be a good program.
> If I can recall correctly, it had a white board type feature in it that
> I used to use fairly often. I used to talk to this one AW citizen from
> Israel over PowWow a lot. And you're right; you gotta love that loon
> wave file. ;) Beats the ICQ "horn" sound. The latest version of ICQ,
> IMO, is bloatware. Ever since AOL bought/merged/whatever with Mirabilis,
> you could tell it would turn into either ad-ware or bloatware.
>
> Builderz
> Stuff-X - Bot & World Hosting Services
> http://www.stuffx.com/aw/
> PGP Key ID: 0xAC0E7073 (for non-commercial use)
>
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