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EverQuest: 300,000 registered players - AW's future (Community)

EverQuest: 300,000 registered players - AW's future // Community

fatts

Oct 16, 2000, 7:36pm

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I got it! lets have spray cans of paint so that we can "tag" all the =
walls in AW! It would wash off when the Tagger signed off and it would =
be fun and even training for some in real life LOL.

Fatts

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"eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message =
news:39DD122F.BA3861A6 at tnlc.com...
> Just read this in the latest issue of PC Gamer on page 60. They'll =
be
doing a review of massively multiplayer, persistent world games next =
month.
But the EverQuest registered player count should be a wakeup call to =
AWCI:
people like games more than they like to simply chat and build. =
Compare AW's
citizen count (~25,000) to EverQuest's and that should be a clue.
>
> And don't you ingrates start replying saying "Wahhhhhhhh, but AW =
isn't a
game!&*(#^$&)^% at $# <froth, drool, spit>" because, yes, I KNOW this, =
and
that's my point as to why AW isn't as popular as it COULD be. With =
just a
few minor gamelike features like jumping, an inventory, and the =
ability to
either shoot, hit, or simply TOUCH other people/things (not simply =
clicking
them from long distances)--http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html for =
more AW
improvements, AW could become more attractive to gamers, especially =
since I
think AW is basically a multi-user level editor, and there aren't any =
such
things that exist for any games that I know of (and, believe me, I've =
been
looking for years).
>
> Sure there are limited building RTS (real-time strategy) games like =
10six
and...er, well, I think that's it. Plus there are of course many 3D =
game
level editors (but they usually have to be compiled and cannot usually =
be
played while they're being created) and 2D map editors, but no game
developer has done a REAL-TIME, multi-user 3D level editor. THAT is =
what
keeps AW unique from every other wanna-be VR program out there, but AW =
just
isn't gamelike enough to compete with true 3D game level editors.
>
> AW COULD be the first in this market if Rick, JP, Roland, and Shamus =
wake
up to this realization NOW and start moving AW's direction towards it. =
AW
has stagnated and just gotten by for too long now--it's time AW had a =
REAL,
MARKETABLE direction. E-commerce (stupid overhyped marketing buzzword) =
and
distance learning education are fine SUB-designs, but there's no way =
AW will
become profitable from them. The gaming industry--and, specifically, =
3D
gaming industry--has already proven itself to be VERY productive and
popular; AW should learn and adapt accordingly.
>
> --
>
> http://tnlc.com/eep/ - Active Worlds, Tomb Raider, 3D game =
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Sims
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<DIV>I got it!  lets have spray cans of paint so that we can "tag" =
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<DIV>sw comit <<A=20
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iveworlds.com</A>...</DIV>Hmmm,=20
yea that'd be cool, but you still got a good number of people who =
just<BR>like=20
AW for building and community stuff. Shooting some kinda...thing,=20
would<BR>kick %#^ though, as long as it doesn't damage my stuff=20
^_^<BR><BR>"eep" <<A =
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Just read this in the latest issue of PC Gamer on page 60. They'll =
be<BR>doing=20
a review of massively multiplayer, persistent world games next =
month.<BR>But=20
the EverQuest registered player count should be a wakeup call to=20
AWCI:<BR>people like games more than they like to simply chat and =
build.=20
Compare AW's<BR>citizen count (~25,000) to EverQuest's and that should =
be a=20
clue.<BR>><BR>> And don't you ingrates start replying saying=20
"Wahhhhhhhh, but AW isn't a<BR>game!&*(#^$&)^% at $# <froth, =
drool,=20
spit>" because, yes, I KNOW this, and<BR>that's my point as to why =
AW isn't=20
as popular as it COULD be. With just a<BR>few minor gamelike features =
like=20
jumping, an inventory, and the ability to<BR>either shoot, hit, or =
simply=20
TOUCH other people/things (not simply clicking<BR>them from long=20
distances)--http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html for more =
AW<BR>improvements,=20
AW could become more attractive to gamers, especially since I<BR>think =
AW is=20
basically a multi-user level editor, and there aren't any =
such<BR>things that=20
exist for any games that I know of (and, believe me, I've =
been<BR>looking for=20
years).<BR>><BR>> Sure there are limited building RTS (real-time =

strategy) games like 10six<BR>and...er, well, I think that's it. Plus =
there=20
are of course many 3D game<BR>level editors (but they usually have to =
be=20
compiled and cannot usually be<BR>played while they're being created) =
and 2D=20
map editors, but no game<BR>developer has done a REAL-TIME, multi-user =
3D=20
level editor. THAT is what<BR>keeps AW unique from every other =
wanna-be VR=20
program out there, but AW just<BR>isn't gamelike enough to compete =
with true=20
3D game level editors.<BR>><BR>> AW COULD be the first in this =
market if=20
Rick, JP, Roland, and Shamus wake<BR>up to this realization NOW and =
start=20
moving AW's direction towards it. AW<BR>has stagnated and just gotten =
by for=20
too long now--it's time AW had a REAL,<BR>MARKETABLE direction. =
E-commerce=20
(stupid overhyped marketing buzzword) and<BR>distance learning =
education are=20
fine SUB-designs, but there's no way AW will<BR>become profitable from =
them.=20
The gaming industry--and, specifically, 3D<BR>gaming industry--has =
already=20
proven itself to be VERY productive and<BR>popular; AW should learn =
and adapt=20
accordingly.<BR>><BR>> --<BR>><BR>> <A=20
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canopus

Oct 22, 2000, 11:49pm

The developers of Dawn, an online role-playing game, intend to include
game-time building as a regular activity for their players. Not only can
you build buildings but also you can alter terrain, as you develop your
part of an enormous world, by yourself or with other players. The game
is scheduled for completion in Quarter 1, 2002. (Kind of a deadline for
AW?) Read about it on the fansite http://dawn.stratics.com.

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eep wrote:
>
> Just read this in the latest issue of PC Gamer on page 60. They'll be doing a review of massively multiplayer, persistent world games next month. But the EverQuest registered player count should be a wakeup call to AWCI: people like games more than they like to simply chat and build. Compare AW's citizen count (~25,000) to EverQuest's and that should be a clue.
>
> And don't you ingrates start replying saying "Wahhhhhhhh, but AW isn't a game!&*(#^$&)^% at $# <froth, drool, spit>" because, yes, I KNOW this, and that's my point as to why AW isn't as popular as it COULD be. With just a few minor gamelike features like jumping, an inventory, and the ability to either shoot, hit, or simply TOUCH other people/things (not simply clicking them from long distances)--http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html for more AW improvements, AW could become more attractive to gamers, especially since I think AW is basically a multi-user level editor, and there aren't any such things that exist for any games that I know of (and, believe me, I've been looking for years).
>
> Sure there are limited building RTS (real-time strategy) games like 10six and...er, well, I think that's it. Plus there are of course many 3D game level editors (but they usually have to be compiled and cannot usually be played while they're being created) and 2D map editors, but no game developer has done a REAL-TIME, multi-user 3D level editor. THAT is what keeps AW unique from every other wanna-be VR program out there, but AW just isn't gamelike enough to compete with true 3D game level editors.
>
> AW COULD be the first in this market if Rick, JP, Roland, and Shamus wake up to this realization NOW and start moving AW's direction towards it. AW has stagnated and just gotten by for too long now--it's time AW had a REAL, MARKETABLE direction. E-commerce (stupid overhyped marketing buzzword) and distance learning education are fine SUB-designs, but there's no way AW will become profitable from them. The gaming industry--and, specifically, 3D gaming industry--has already proven itself to be VERY productive and popular; AW should learn and adapt accordingly.
>
> --
>
> http://tnlc.com/eep/ - Active Worlds, Tomb Raider, 3D game comparison, The Sims
> Enable line/word wrap if text not wrapping. http://tnlc.com/eep/wrap.html for more info.
> DON'T QUOTE SIG WHEN REPLYING!

eep

Oct 23, 2000, 1:26am

Sounds interesting! Perhaps AWCI will learn from just what is possible (and marketable!) with a GAME rather than a stagnant wanna-be program AW currently is...

[View Quote] > The developers of Dawn, an online role-playing game, intend to include
> game-time building as a regular activity for their players. Not only can
> you build buildings but also you can alter terrain, as you develop your
> part of an enormous world, by yourself or with other players. The game
> is scheduled for completion in Quarter 1, 2002. (Kind of a deadline for
> AW?) Read about it on the fansite http://dawn.stratics.com.
>
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wing

Oct 23, 2000, 6:05pm

Ahhh, finally, someone has actually put a dath date on AW. Keep us posted on this, especially when they want testers.

[View Quote] > The developers of Dawn, an online role-playing game, intend to include
> game-time building as a regular activity for their players. Not only can
> you build buildings but also you can alter terrain, as you develop your
> part of an enormous world, by yourself or with other players. The game
> is scheduled for completion in Quarter 1, 2002. (Kind of a deadline for
> AW?) Read about it on the fansite http://dawn.stratics.com.
>
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eep

Oct 23, 2000, 7:20pm

Dawn already has a beta test: http://www.glitchless.com/betatest/, which I've already signed up with. I don't necessarily like the theme (yet abother medieval fantasy RPG), but the spherical world, life-from-birth, no respawning after death (must be born again), and, of course, terrain modification (dig ditches for water to flow--yes, Dawn will supposedly have fluid-modelled physics!)--see http://www.glitchless.com/faq.html #47--and building construction (must aquire resources: wood, minerals, possibly stone before building).

It's still a little too early to get overly excited about Dawn, but it does seem to be more than Jetta's vaporware ("new universe") for now...

[View Quote] > Ahhh, finally, someone has actually put a dath date on AW. Keep us posted on this, especially when they want testers.
>
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myrth

Oct 23, 2000, 10:56pm

I just signed up for beta too.

w00t

-Myrth

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"eep" <eep at tnlc.com> wrote in message news:39F4A603.357231C2 at tnlc.com...
> Dawn already has a beta test: http://www.glitchless.com/betatest/, which
I've already signed up with. I don't necessarily like the theme (yet abother
medieval fantasy RPG), but the spherical world, life-from-birth, no
respawning after death (must be born again), and, of course, terrain
modification (dig ditches for water to flow--yes, Dawn will supposedly have
fluid-modelled physics!)--see http://www.glitchless.com/faq.html #47--and
building construction (must aquire resources: wood, minerals, possibly stone
before building).
>
> It's still a little too early to get overly excited about Dawn, but it
does seem to be more than Jetta's vaporware ("new universe") for now...
>
> wing wrote:
>
posted on this, especially when they want testers.
can
your
for
be doing a review of massively multiplayer, persistent world games next
month. But the EverQuest registered player count should be a wakeup call to
AWCI: people like games more than they like to simply chat and build.
Compare AW's citizen count (~25,000) to EverQuest's and that should be a
clue.
isn't a game!&*(#^$&)^% at $# <froth, drool, spit>" because, yes, I KNOW this,
and that's my point as to why AW isn't as popular as it COULD be. With just
a few minor gamelike features like jumping, an inventory, and the ability to
either shoot, hit, or simply TOUCH other people/things (not simply clicking
them from long distances)--http://tnlc.com/eep/aw/improve.html for more AW
improvements, AW could become more attractive to gamers, especially since I
think AW is basically a multi-user level editor, and there aren't any such
things that exist for any games that I know of (and, believe me, I've been
looking for years).
10six and...er, well, I think that's it. Plus there are of course many 3D
game level editors (but they usually have to be compiled and cannot usually
be played while they're being created) and 2D map editors, but no game
developer has done a REAL-TIME, multi-user 3D level editor. THAT is what
keeps AW unique from every other wanna-be VR program out there, but AW just
isn't gamelike enough to compete with true 3D game level editors.
wake up to this realization NOW and start moving AW's direction towards it.
AW has stagnated and just gotten by for too long now--it's time AW had a
REAL, MARKETABLE direction. E-commerce (stupid overhyped marketing buzzword)
and distance learning education are fine SUB-designs, but there's no way AW
will become profitable from them. The gaming industry--and, specifically, 3D
gaming industry--has already proven itself to be VERY productive and
popular; AW should learn and adapt accordingly.
>
> --
>
> http://tnlc.com/eep/ - Active Worlds, Tomb Raider, 3D game comparison, The
Sims
> Enable line/word wrap if text not wrapping. http://tnlc.com/eep/wrap.html
for more info.
> DON'T QUOTE SIG WHEN REPLYING!
>

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