html help (General Discussion)

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data21

Nov 10, 2001, 1:57pm
Hi, dose anyone know the HTML code ( it might be java) that disables the
ability to go to veiw at the top of the web browser then picking source to
see the html of the web page?
I have seen it somewhere but can't remember it.

ananas

Nov 10, 2001, 2:03pm
JS always disabled :)

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data21

Nov 10, 2001, 4:37pm
Im just trying to keep them newbie webpage makers from takeing the easy road
to a good web page.
Plus I dont want my graphics stolen. I already disabled right clicking but
as long as they can look at the source they can get anything they want.

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kah

Nov 10, 2001, 4:50pm
probably some code around but if you wanna use real HTML only use W3C
stuff... http://w3.org/TR/html4/

KAH

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agent1

Nov 10, 2001, 5:39pm
If they can see the page on their system, they can get everything on it. All of your images are downloaded to the user's computer and opened locally.

-Agent1

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dabartender

Nov 10, 2001, 6:18pm
http://www.codeave.com/html/code.asp?u_log=5080

:-)


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agent1

Nov 10, 2001, 8:13pm
But really, if you can see it, you can steal it :) Someone could just use printscreen to steal images. If it's just layout that the person's worried about, that's a little harder, but I would assume the HTML is stored in memory somewhere while the browser renders it anyway.

That would definately deter "casual copying", though :)

-Agent1

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data21

Nov 10, 2001, 8:43pm
I already new that, but not many newbies now how to get at the saved html
files :-) shh don't post how.


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data21

Nov 10, 2001, 8:45pm
Thanks :-)


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foxmccloud

Nov 10, 2001, 9:00pm
Of course, it's your choice, but I must say I hate it when someone prevents me from right-clicking in a page...
The net was built to exchange information freely, not to hide it. Take a look at the Free Software Foundation http://www.fsf.org and
the General Public License http://www.fsf.org/licenses/gpl.html if you don't see what I mean.

Fox Mc Cloud

"data21" <dbmiller at kiski.net> a écrit dans le message news: 3bed8212 at server1.Activeworlds.com...
> Im just trying to keep them newbie webpage makers from takeing the easy road
> to a good web page.
> Plus I dont want my graphics stolen. I already disabled right clicking but
> as long as they can look at the source they can get anything they want.

wizard myrddin

Nov 10, 2001, 9:17pm
You can aways use a html shrinker which makes life more difficult for
someone wanting to view source. Or even create a flash movie with your
graphics in it.

In all the snippets of code to stop people seeing the source code can be
overcome if you put your mind to it, either by what you state view source or
even save the page to file and then look. To protect any image or graphic
use a watermark, this proves the owner of any such graphic.

Also ASP makes life dificult, but a understanding of asp is required.



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dabartender

Nov 10, 2001, 10:14pm
LOL ;-) Shhhh! Don't let out the "print screen" secret, there may be three
or four people left in the world who don't kow how to do it! <G>
Back when I used to do web sites for more than just fun, I eventually gave
up trying to use any kind of protection or deterrents. Too much coding for
little or no real security... I slowly began putting up as little as
possible, and nothing of real "value," and eventually just quit altogether.
Hell, I don't even have the web page for my own world put back up yet :D

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jerme

Nov 11, 2001, 4:30pm
The simplist way to keep your images from being stolen is to chop them up!
Take my logo for instance. It appears on the website as one image, but is
really a table of 10+ images. To steal my logo, you would have to find and
download every piece of the image. You could do this by looking at the
source. But putting it all back together is the hard part. Not only does
this stop casual copying, it's opens the door to more JS image rollovers.
Not all graphics are good candidates for this. Macromedia
Fireworks/Dreamweaver studio does the job very nicely.

-J.

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bowen

Nov 11, 2001, 5:39pm
After reading this post and it's responses, I'm wondering why you want to
protect your HTML and/or images so much? If someone is really determined,
they'll get what they want, printscreen is the main way they'll get your
images, or they'll find the source in the temp folders. Maybe you should
put a TM up on your site?

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trekkerx

Nov 11, 2001, 6:26pm
Its really impossable to block someone from getting something, and the codeing
to stop people from right clicking is annoying. Personaly I like to right
click on a link and open a new window. Also you can right click a lot of times
and the then the thing will pop up and you can do what ever. Just put little
things on the corner of your pictures or something that shows its yours and
put a little caption on the bottem of your webpage sayng that its yours.

[View Quote] > After reading this post and it's responses, I'm wondering why you want to
> protect your HTML and/or images so much? If someone is really determined,
> they'll get what they want, printscreen is the main way they'll get your
> images, or they'll find the source in the temp folders. Maybe you should
> put a TM up on your site?
>
> --Bowen--

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bowen

Nov 11, 2001, 6:44pm
That's true, very true, I don't mind people taking my HTML because really
they could've made it on their own.. I just did it first, but images there's
lots of ways to protect.. .htaccess is one way.. like xoom.com has, or
caption it, watermark it, etc.

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agent1

Nov 11, 2001, 8:54pm
Now that's a pretty good idea. Would be really annoying to anyone trying to get the image(s), too :)

Just have to make sure those tables work the same in the major browsers. Wouldn't want one of them to show a bunch of table crap in your logo :)

-Agent1

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data21

Nov 11, 2001, 9:30pm
All my links do open in a new window in the html I told them to target the
index :-)


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